Here we go again: George Zimmerman has been shot.

[Earl IV]

So, which one was the "good guy with a gun"?

 

[Deepak]

They found a gun of Zimmerman's, but they haven't searched the car yet, according to the article.

In the bushes? ? ?

I think it was on him.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

They found a gun of Zimmerman's, but they haven't searched the car yet, according to the article.

In the bushes? ? ?

No word on if Laura or Barb were involved or are into that sort of thing.

 

[coloradoatheist]

So, which one was the "good guy with a gun"?

That's what the cops have to figure out. It does come down to who they believe with the facts. But since the news doesn't always have everything, but we have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront Zimmerman then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

So, which one was the "good guy with a gun"?

We have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront ________________ then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun. (edited)

Not sure where I heard this before?

 

[coloradoatheist]

We have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront ________________ then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun. (edited)

Not sure where I heard this before?

Yes and no. The question is if there are any witnesses that saw the whole thing.

I think there probably will be no charges filed.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Not sure where I heard this before?

Yes and no. The question is if there are any witnesses that saw the whole thing.

I think there probably will be no charges filed.

I agree. With "Stand Your Ground" you can shoot at anybody and both these two dunces probably are responsible.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So, which one was the "good guy with a gun"?

That's what the cops have to figure out. It does come down to who they believe with the facts. But since the news doesn't always have everything, but we have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront Zimmerman then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun.

I can imagine some scenarios, especially ones where Zimmerman is selling drugs from his car. No word on whether he has improved his fighting style in sumo wrestling.

Imagination aside, what has been reported so far gives a feel that Apperson needs to seek help. It feels like he confronted Zimmerman. What frightens the hell out of me is that this incident implies that Zimmerman was right to be armed... of which in itself is a frightening idea. What I don't understand is why Zimmerman didn't try to flee a little in the car and then contact the police.

 

[coloradoatheist]

Yes and no. The question is if there are any witnesses that saw the whole thing.

I think there probably will be no charges filed.

I agree. With "Stand Your Ground" you can shoot at anybody and both these two dunces probably are responsible.

Depends on if any of the witness so the driving prior to the incident and who was doing the reckless driving.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Not sure where I heard this before?

Yes and no. The question is if there are any witnesses that saw the whole thing.

I think there probably will be no charges filed.

How can there be no charges filed?! Discharged a gun into a vehicle. Granted, in Florida, it is up to the Prosecution to prove a negative, so I suppose there is no case, even if Zimmerman could have been killed. Looks like having a mental illness and a gun in Florida is great!

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We have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront ________________ then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun. (edited)

Not sure where I heard this before?

Does sound familiar. Maybe Apperson was checking the street sign so he knew where he was.

 

[coloradoatheist]

Yes and no. The question is if there are any witnesses that saw the whole thing.

I think there probably will be no charges filed.

How can there be no charges filed?! Discharged a gun into a vehicle. Granted, in Florida, it is up to the Prosecution to prove a negative, so I suppose there is no case, even if Zimmerman could have been killed. Looks like having a mental illness and a gun in Florida is great!

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We have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront ________________ then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun. (edited)

Not sure where I heard this before?

Does sound familiar. Maybe Apperson was checking the street sign so he knew where he was.

It depends on what the prosecuters believe they can determine and prove. Can they prove that Z did not brandish a weapon? Can they prove who was doing the reckless driving? Can they prove that Apperton did not worry about his life?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

How can there be no charges filed?! Discharged a gun into a vehicle. Granted, in Florida, it is up to the Prosecution to prove a negative, so I suppose there is no case, even if Zimmerman could have been killed. Looks like having a mental illness and a gun in Florida is great!

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We have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront ________________ then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun. (edited)

Not sure where I heard this before?

Does sound familiar. Maybe Apperson was checking the street sign so he knew where he was.

It depends on what the prosecuters believe they can determine and prove. Can they prove that Z did not brandish a weapon? Can they prove who was doing the reckless driving? Can they prove that Apperton did not worry about his life?

Exactly, they are required to prove a negative, which is impossible short of making citizens where body cameras. The Florida laws are absurdly forgiving in situations where there is no camera recording an it.

A person firing a gun into someone's car needs to have a threshold of evidence to meet. The guy doesn't appear to be well, so he could literally fear for his life because he isn't stable. He continues to get to carry.

 

[Bronzeage]

How can there be no charges filed?! Discharged a gun into a vehicle. Granted, in Florida, it is up to the Prosecution to prove a negative, so I suppose there is no case, even if Zimmerman could have been killed. Looks like having a mental illness and a gun in Florida is great!

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We have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront ________________ then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun. (edited)

Not sure where I heard this before?

Does sound familiar. Maybe Apperson was checking the street sign so he knew where he was.

It depends on what the prosecuters believe they can determine and prove. Can they prove that Z did not brandish a weapon? Can they prove who was doing the reckless driving? Can they prove that Apperton did not worry about his life?

What Zimmerman did or did not do is irrelevant in stand your ground defense. All that matters is the shooter's perception of the situation and how convincing they can be.

Zimmerman has a history of violence. If he looks at anyone crosseyed, they can cut him down and justify it just by claiming fear for their life.

 

[RavenSky]

You shoot one teenager who wasn't armed and had skittles....

He also had fists which is why he got shot, not Skittles. It is ridiculous to perpetuate the nonsensical "dying for Skittles" narrative that has become integral part of the hagiographies of St. Trayvon ...

Trayvon Martin had every right to self-defense from an obviously aggressive dangerous asshole (Zimmerman) who was chasing him. George Zimmerman CLEARLY has anger management issues, and CLEARLY gets into repeated constant confrontations, yet you still refuse to concede that maybe... just maybe... the dead black teenager was an innocent victim.

What exactly is George Zimmerman going to have to do before you will admit that HE is/was the thug, not Trayvon?

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But what if the other guy was 100% white instead of 50% white? Doesn't that drastically change the determination of who was in the wrong

Good point. Since the other guy is white, not black, Z can go back to being a minority (instead of "cracker") and thus the Left is obligated to take his side.

Horseshit. It isn't "the Left" that decides who lives and who deserves to die on the basis of skin color.

 

[RavenSky]

We have the other guy getting out of his vehicle to come confront ________________ then I'm not sure how he can say he had to pull his gun. (edited)

Not sure where I heard this before?

Good catch

 

[Derec]

Trayvon Martin had every right to self-defense from an obviously aggressive dangerous asshole (Zimmerman) who was chasing him. George Zimmerman CLEARLY has anger management issues, and CLEARLY gets into repeated constant confrontations, yet you still refuse to concede that maybe... just maybe... the dead black teenager was an innocent victim.

And you fail to concede that maybe they both had anger issues. Also, a conviction requires more than "maybe, just maybe".

What exactly is George Zimmerman going to have to do before you will admit that HE is/was the thug, not Trayvon?

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Horseshit. It isn't "the Left" that decides who lives and who deserves to die on the basis of skin color.

Yet the Left always takes the side of the black person even if they are a thug and attacked the police, like Michael Brown or Tony "not Baldrick" Robinson.

 

[laughing dog]

Yet the Left always takes the side of the black person even if they are a thug and attacked the police, like Michael Brown or Tony "not Baldrick" Robinson.

As long as we are going for bullshit generalizations, you forgot to add "And the Fascists takes the side of the police and the white person even if they are a raging racist brownshirt."

 

[Derec]

He also had fists which is why he got shot, not Skittles.

Everyone with two functioning hands has fists. According to your reasoning, they all deserve to be shot.

I guess it's my fault. I should have known you need everything spelled out. Trayvon was shot because he pummeled Z with his fists, and not because he had some skittles on him as is the usual reduction of this case.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Everyone with two functioning hands has fists. According to your reasoning, they all deserve to be shot.

I guess it's fault. I should have known you need everything spelled out. Trayvon was shot because he pummeled Z with his fists in self defense, and not because he had some skittles on him as is the usual reduction of this case.

FIFY

 

[Derec]

I guess it's fault. I should have known you need everything spelled out. Trayvon was shot because he pummeled Z with his fists in self defense, and not because he had some skittles on him as is the usual reduction of this case.

FIFY

Evidence that Trayvon engaged in self defense?