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https://atlantablackstar.com/2019/07/20/i-beat-that-nr-like-he-owed-me-money-new-jersey-cop-faces-up-to-40-years-for-federal-charges-including-using-excessive-force/

New Jersey Cop Faces Up to 40 Years for Federal Charges Including Using Excessive Force

An FBI investigation into several police officers in Paterson, New Jersey, has led to a seventh one being charged.

On Tuesday, Frank Toledo pled guilty in U.S. District Court in Newark to conspiracy to violate people’s civil rights, using excessive force, and filing a false police report, the Paterson Times reported.

“The U.S. Attorney’s Office and our law enforcement partners remain committed to identifying and prosecuting corrupt police officers who violate the civil rights of our people,” U.S. Attorney Craig Carpenito told the publication. “We will continue to aggressively pursue these cases, and we are grateful to our counterparts at the FBI, the Paterson Police Department and the Passaic County Prosecutor’s Office, for their dedicated assistance on this investigation.”

On the false police report charge, Toledo, 30, would work with fellow officers Matthew Torres, Eudy Ramos, Daniel Pent and Jonathan Bustios — who have also been charged in the probe along with two other officers not involved with Toledo — to stop and search vehicles without justification. The officers would loot the vehicles of valuables and cash, splitting it among themselves. And stealing money wasn’t just reserved for traffic stops. The newspaper also reported they’d stop and frisk people on the street and steal their money.

Gang of thugs.
 
Also, as long as you do what the cops say, you won't be hurt.

Right, Loren?

We don't know the details of the case.

When police stop and search a vehicle without justification and then proceed to steal the valuables and cash inside the vehicle, those are all the details I need to know.

You can not trust police.
 
Also, as long as you do what the cops say, you won't be hurt.

Right, Loren?

Well, you should cooperate, even when cops are in the wrong. Then report the misconduct and you get the prosecution in the OP.

:hysterical:
Report the misconduct to the agency conducting the misconduct? Yeah, that'll work. The police would never circle the wagons to protect their own. :rolleyes:
 
Also, as long as you do what the cops say, you won't be hurt.

Right, Loren?

We don't know the details of the case.
Wow. Are you under the impression this thug plead guilty to made up charges?
Once again, Loren implies that there may be some extenuating circumstances that would allow a cop to "violate people’s civil rights, use excessive force, and file a false police report".
 
Also, as long as you do what the cops say, you won't be hurt.

Right, Loren?

Well, you should cooperate, even when cops are in the wrong. Then report the misconduct and you get the prosecution in the OP.

So you want to just give them free blow jobs?!

You should react the same way you would react to any armed criminal robbing you. Why should the reaction here be any different? Don't they usually say to comply with someone trying to rob you since they usually just want your material possessions and would prefer not to physically harm you?
 
So you want to just give them free blow jobs?!

You should react the same way you would react to any armed criminal threatening you. Why should the reaction be any different?

Why are you assuming it's different? Maybe if a cop OR another street criminal demands a bj, Trausti complies. Then, later, he fills out paperwork to demand justice. Maybe he's out there protesting right now with a sign "No more free blowjobs for cops or criminals!"
 
So you want to just give them free blow jobs?!

You should react the same way you would react to any armed criminal threatening you. Why should the reaction be any different?

Why are you assuming it's different? Maybe if a cop OR another street criminal demands a bj, Trausti complies. Then, later, he fills out paperwork to demand justice. Maybe he's out there protesting right now with a sign "No more free blowjobs for cops or criminals!"

WTF are you going on about? I thought this was about an armed robbery? And I honestly don't know what gives you the highest odds of survival if someone points a gun at you and threatens to murder you unless you give them a bj, but it seems like you just pulled a random scenario from nowhere.
 
Why are you assuming it's different? Maybe if a cop OR another street criminal demands a bj, Trausti complies. Then, later, he fills out paperwork to demand justice. Maybe he's out there protesting right now with a sign "No more free blowjobs for cops or criminals!"

WTF are you going on about? I thought this was about an armed robbery? And I honestly don't know what gives you the highest odds of survival if someone points a gun at you and threatens to murder you unless you give them a bj, but it seems like you just pulled a random scenario from nowhere.

Let's get you caught up. Trausti wrote that WHATEVER police tell you to do, comply with it, and if it was illegal, complain later. What I did was called a counterexample. A counterexample shows the logic is wrong. Reductio ad absurdum. Q.E.D.

I am not sure we're even arguing here or at least we shouldn't be. This is very basic logic.
 
So you think the guy DIDN'T plead guilty?

Is that the scrutiny you apply to your Israeli sources of news when you read about Palestinian agitators?
 
When police stop and search a vehicle without justification and then proceed to steal the valuables and cash inside the vehicle, those are all the details I need to know.

You can not trust police.

You're assuming your source reported it accurately.
And you always assume the police report without lying, even when shown conflicting evidence, so, you know, beams and motes.

If you need help figuring out where to shove the beam, let me know.
 
Also, as long as you do what the cops say, you won't be hurt.

Right, Loren?

Well, you should cooperate, even when cops are in the wrong. Then report the misconduct and you get the prosecution in the OP.

That is the law. If you are detained (ask if you are being detained), then you must follow any and all orders a cop gives you, even if you know they are illegal orders.
If you are not detained, you need not follow any orders (again, ask if you are being detained so the status of your obligations are clear).
The place to argue about illegal orders is in court. In fact, even if you are guilty of a crime, if you were given an illegal order that resulted in any evidence against you, that evidence gets thrown out like it never existed... so you WANT to be given an illegal order that you follow - it helps your case. If you don't follow it, you are resisting arrest, or impeding an officer's investigation (obstruction), or something else that does not help you at all... but instead hurts your case.

Maybe you can say that being ordered out of your car after a traffic stop by a cop is an illegal order because you THINK you did not say or do anything that gave probable cause for a search... you can say it and let the cop know you will be filing a complaint if he continues to violate your constitutional rights... but get the fuck out of the car as ordered while verbally reinforcing your refusal to consent to their search... for example.
 
When police stop and search a vehicle without justification and then proceed to steal the valuables and cash inside the vehicle, those are all the details I need to know.

You can not trust police.

You're assuming your source reported it accurately.
The police officer plead guilty to charges. Why do you think the police officer plead guilty to those charges?
 
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