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Code Monkey
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$10k is still a substantial amount of money.
So? If a person can come up with that amount of money, then they are released from jail until they face trial. It doesn't matter if that person has millions in the bank, or has to scrape the money together from donations. They are still treated the same. Why do you think rich people should be able to bond out, and poor people should not?
Except a lot of time a bail is set, but set so high that the inmate is unlikely to be able to raise it.If they did not want the accused to be able to post bail, then they would not have set a bail amount at all. Dylan Roof likely has no bail amount set, given the crimes he has been accused of. Had Roof pressed charges against his assailant, he would have been in jail for a few more days awaiting the bond hearing for that assault, and would have had and even higher bond, but would likely have still had a bond set. Even some accused rapists and murderers have a bond set, but it is often so high that only the richest people can even afford to pay the bondsman. We are talking million dollar bonds in those cases, but some rich people are still able to pay them, and when they do they are released until trial.
Judges do not examine the accused's bank account to determine how high to set the bail amount. It is based on the crime committed, and the likelihood that the accused will show up for trial. The judge in this case would have had no idea if the accused had 10 grand, or even 100 grand sitting in the bank. You seem to think that black people can't have money in the bank, that speaks more about your prejudice than anything else.
So him getting beat up is wrong.Yes, exactly. Roof is accused of murder, and is in jail awaiting trial. He will not be in prison for murder until he is convicted of murder. Please note that my position is consistent, and not dependent upon the skin color of the accused.
Yes, but I have no sympathy for him, because he is a mass murdering, racist scumbag.
And the person who beat him up getting financially rewarded is wrong as well. Why is it so hard for so-called liberals to see that?
I did not donate any money to him, and I am not defending his actions, or the actions of those who donated to him. I am only taking the position that he was treated just like anyone else awaiting trial by the criminal justice system. Why do you only defend the criminal justice system in cases where it harms black people unnecessarily?
If there is objective evidence (as there is in this case) the state can proceed even when the victim is not cooperative.No. Roof did not press charges, so there was no crime in the eyes of the law, and thus there could be no payment for a crime that did not happen.
Sure, that is a possibility, and if there was more harm done to Roof, they likely would have. On the other hand, I have been in jail, and I have seen a couple of fights between inmates in jail. Those inmates were not charged with additional crimes, although the guards did punish everyone in the cell block by removing privileges like TV access.
Mario Woods has been convicted of a robbery. And he died before he could be brought to trial for stabbing. That doesn't mean he did not do it. Same with Michael Brown's robbery.Accused, Derec, accused. Just like Dylan Roof is accused. You see, consistency, not bigotry.
Focus, Derec, this is not about Mario Woods, or Mike Brown.
What trash?Perhaps you should worry about the trash in your back yard before pointing to your neighbors.
Racism and misogyny.
Nonsense. But black criminals are the ones being celebrated by the left. Look at support people like Mumia Abu Jamal, Assata Shakur, Michael Brown etc. get from the Left.Yes, we are aware that you only care about black criminals. Actually, denigrating black people in general. And women, can't forget about those evil women.
This is not about those black people, but I am not surprised that you continually bring them up, and are not able to look past the color of their skin.