Just A Little Pro-Life

[Toni]

Well, I'm starting with personal experience of pro-lifers getting up into my reproductive business.

I'm sure when you go to your gynecologist or clinic you have accumulated lots of tales about what these people are like.

That right there is pure prejudice. This woman must think X despite not saying it and she's a hypocrite for it. She must think X because that's what these these other people you associate her with have said or its what you imagined they were thinking. Opposition to abortion and encouraging people not to have them must be all and only about controlling women's bodies and have nothing to do with seeing it as murder and protecting the lives of the unborn. They just say that to sound cool.

Again, it's one thing to say people are wrong and that you see things differently and advocate and make points why you disagree with them. It's quite another to insist on projecting views on somebody and call them a hypocrite for having views they have not stated and may not hold.

If you have an anti-abortion case to make, then make it. Don't project your own prejudices onto others.

I don't think that pro-abortion/anti-abortion debate is the intent of this thread but still: don't project your own prejudices onto others.

 

[laughing dog]

Well, I'm starting with personal experience of pro-lifers getting up into my reproductive business.

I'm sure when you go to your gynecologist or clinic you have accumulated lots of tales about what these people are like.

That right there is pure prejudice. This woman must think X despite not saying it and she's a hypocrite for it. She must think X because that's what these these other people you associate her with have said or its what you imagined they were thinking. Opposition to abortion and encouraging people not to have them must be all and only about controlling women's bodies and have nothing to do with seeing it as murder and protecting the lives of the unborn. They just say that to sound cool.

Whether you acknowledge it or not, the effect of successful anti-abortion efforts is to take away the choice of medical procedures from women, regardless of the putative intents of the anti-abortion people.

Interestingly, the Rhea never claimed that it was only about control over women's bodies. It was clearly more about her experiences with their intrusion into her private live - which is not necessarily control over her body.

Again, it's one thing to say people are wrong and that you see things differently and advocate and make points why you disagree with them. It's quite another to insist on projecting views on somebody and call them a hypocrite for having views they have not stated and may not hold.

I am sure the irony of the last paragraph in juxtaposition to the first paragraph is lost on its author.

The woman in the OP is a hypocrite - not because she is pro or anti-abortion - but because she will not care for the baby that the birth mother did not want to care for after exhorting her to give birth.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

If you have an anti-abortion case to make, then make it. Don't project your own prejudices onto others.

I am not anti abortion in the way this woman has stated she is. I am just not willing to project your views onto her so I can declare her a hypocrite. I am sorry if that troubles you so.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

The woman in the OP is a hypocrite - not because she is pro or anti-abortion - but because she will not care for the baby that the birth mother did not want to care for after exhorting her to give birth.

If you say so, Orwell.

 

[Toni]

If you have an anti-abortion case to make, then make it. Don't project your own prejudices onto others.

I am not anti abortion in the way this woman has stated she is. I am just not willing to project your views onto her so I can declare her a hypocrite. I am sorry if that troubles you so.

Lol.

 

[Arctish]

I would say the hypocrite label applies because the conversation with the pregnant woman surely included plenty of "you can do it, you can take care of this baby, you can give it a life and a home." Why do I say "surely"? Because an argument that it is just "murder," and end-of-convincing would not have resulted in the situation of her choosing birth and also not choosing adoption. If the woman

So the fact that this pregnant woman was convinced to not have an abortion AND to try to raise the baby herself points very clearly to the "pro-lifer" having used arguments that pro-lifer later violates in not taking care of the baby.

I would say that it takes a lot of assuming to think that her appalling response is not steeped in hypocrisy.

There's another aspect to this story that caught my attention.

In the initial post, the Pro-lifer says she talked a woman out of getting an abortion. Then months later when the child was removed from his parent's custody, the Pro-lifer found out that the family put her down as the next preferred placement. This strongly implies the family knows her by name. Most likely she's related to them. If not, she must have made one hell of an impression on them.

Then in the subsequent post where she's defending herself from criticism, the Pro-lifer says

"And I will always be there for him. He will always have me and I will always do everything in my power to make sure he is safe and loved just as I have since he was 8 weeks old in the womb. I’ve been by his side his entire life…he couldn’t get rid of me even if he tried!"

This appears to be untrue.

She's not doing everything in her power to make sure he is safe and loved. If she were, she would seek custody even though she's moved to another state. And she wouldn't be using her fears of what having a 6-month old in her life would mean as an excuse for not being literally "by his side his entire life".

She talks a good fight but she wimped out as soon as sh*t got real. Sure, she'll be there for him.

In spirit.

From a distance.

 

[laughing dog]

The woman in the OP is a hypocrite - not because she is pro or anti-abortion - but because she will not care for the baby that the birth mother did not want to care for after exhorting her to give birth.

If you say so, Orwell.

Not because I say so, Bozo, but because it is so.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

The woman in the OP is a hypocrite - not because she is pro or anti-abortion - but because she will not care for the baby that the birth mother did not want to care for after exhorting her to give birth.

If you say so, Orwell.

Not because I say so, Bozo, but because it is so.

Whatever you say, Trump.

 

[Trausti]

I was walking in the park and saw a young child drowning in the lake. My first thought was to jump in and rescue the child. Then I thought, well, I don't want to take care of it. Kept walking.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I was walking in the park and saw a young child drowning in the lake. My first thought was to jump in and rescue the child. Then I thought, well, I don't want to take care of it. Kept walking.

That makes you a hypocrite and worse than the man who threw the kid into that lake. He didn't want to take care of the child either.

 

[laughing dog]

Not because I say so, Bozo, but because it is so.

Whatever you say, Trump.

Rare praise indeed, when I am compared to your idol, bozo.

 

[steve_bank]

Well, I oppose late term abortion of a fully developed healthy functioning fetus.