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Girls sue to block participation of transgender athletes

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The families of three female high school runners filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday seeking to block transgender athletes in Connecticut from participating in girls sports.

Selina Soule, a senior at Glastonbury High School, Chelsea Mitchell, a senior at Canton High School and Alanna Smith, a sophomore at Danbury High School are represented by the conservative nonprofit organization Alliance Defending Freedom. They argue that allowing athletes with male anatomy to compete has deprived them of track titles and scholarship opportunities.

“Mentally and physically, we know the outcome before the race even starts,” said Smith, who is the daughter of former Major League pitcher Lee Smith. “That biological unfairness doesn’t go away because of what someone believes about gender identity. All girls deserve the chance to compete on a level playing field.”

The lawsuit was filed against the Connecticut Association of Schools-Connecticut Interscholastic Athletic Conference and the boards of education in Bloomfield, Cromwell, Glastonbury, Canton and Danbury.

“Forcing girls to be spectators in their own sports is completely at odds with Title IX, a federal law designed to create equal opportunities for women in education and athletics,” attorney Christiana Holcomb said. “Connecticut’s policy violates that law and reverses nearly 50 years of advances for women.”

Any biological male who forces girls/women sport to let him compete is a narcissistic jerk.
 
What's amazing is sex differences developed over millions of years of human evolution magically disappear once a guy says he's a gal.

Why males pack a powerful punch

But even with roughly uniform levels of fitness, the males' average power during a punching motion was 162% greater than females', with the least-powerful man still stronger than the most powerful woman. Such a distinction between genders, Carrier says, develops with time and with purpose.
 
Transgender girls don't have competitive advantage as a rule. Situationally, some transgender and cisgender girls do have biological advantage due to hormone levels at puberty and beyond. To what extent should high school sports be monitored and regulated? NCAA standards? To what end?

Chelsea Mitchell (a plaintiff) recently beat Terry Miller (a defendant) in more than one event at state championships. They occupy the same competitive space.


https://www.outsports.com/2020/2/25...iller-adf-lawsuit-connecticut-track-and-field
 
Transgender girls don't have competitive advantage as a rule.

What rule?

http://boysvswomen.com/#/

Track - 400 meters.

Male world record - 43.03 seconds
Women's world record - 47.6 seconds
US boys high school record - 45.19 seconds

Facts don't persuade transactivists. Just like any religion, facts do not matter to the faithful.

National women's soccer teams lose, routinely, to 14 year old boys. And not 0-0 went to penalty shoot out lose. 7-0 lose.
 
Pole Vault

Men's world record - 6.16 meters
Women's world record - 5.06 meters
Boy's high school record - 6.05 meters
 
Transgender girls don't have competitive advantage as a rule.

Of course they do. It's why we separate sports by sex in the first place.

If they started with puberty blockers at the onset of puberty, they do not. I don't know what the story is with regard to Miller and Yearwood. It seems like they have started with hrt, but after the onset of puberty.
 
Javelin Throw

Men's world record - 98.48 meters
Women's world record - 72.28 meters
US boys high school record - 77.83 meters
 
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Transgender girls don't have competitive advantage as a rule.

Of course they do. It's why we separate sports by sex in the first place.

If they started with puberty blockers at the onset of puberty, they do not. I don't know what the story is with regard to Miller and Yearwood. It seems like they have started with hrt, but after the onset of puberty.

So your saying if you play Dr. Mengele at an early enough age you could interfere with biology? Then you'd agree that if a biological male hadn't received puberty blockers at an early age, letting him/her/xir compete with biological girls would be unfair?
 
Transgender girls don't have competitive advantage as a rule.

What rule?

http://boysvswomen.com/#/

Track - 400 meters.

Male world record - 43.03 seconds
Women's world record - 47.6 seconds
US boys high school record - 45.19 seconds

Irrelevant. A transgender girl went though medically delayed puberty and then hrt from the onset of puberty, that advantage wouldn't be there.

Well, shit, to how may of these trans athletes does this actually apply?
 
Transgender girls don't have competitive advantage as a rule.

Of course they do. It's why we separate sports by sex in the first place.

If they started with puberty blockers at the onset of puberty, they do not. I don't know what the story is with regard to Miller and Yearwood. It seems like they have started with hrt, but after the onset of puberty.

Trans activists are not proposing that trans women who have been through a male puberty be denied competition with women.

Trans activists want high schools to let boys who have not had any cross-sex hormones or surgery to compete with girls - that is, identification alone. (check transathlete.com and GLSEN).

Do you support Laurel Hubbard competing with women?
 
We have a real life experiment: the 1976 East German women's swim team. We know that they were drugged up with male hormones and other shit for years. We know that this gave them a crazy advantage over their female competitors. And we also know that the men still posted faster times in each category.
 
So your saying if you play Dr. Mengele at an early enough age you could interfere with biology?

No, because 'Dr. Mengele' is a disingenuous and repugnant characterization designed to be dismissive rather than factual, accurate or rational.

Then you'd agree that if a biological male hadn't received puberty blockers at an early age, letting them compete with biological girls would be unfair?

That much is unclear. I don't mean in terms of moral philosophy. I mean biologically, it's complex with too many variables. In some cases, yes and in others no.
 
Trans activists are not proposing that trans women who have been through a male puberty be denied competition with women.

Transgender women, as a rule, do not have an advantage. Making prohibitions on the basis of being transgender alone is inadequate for anyone seeking to create categories adjusting for biological advantage. Rather than focusing on gender identity, define what the advantage is and regulate that.

Trans activists want high schools to let boys who have not had any cross-sex hormones or surgery to compete with girls - that is, identification alone. (check transathlete.com and GLSEN).

No, they propose girls who are transgender compete with girls. How schools should balance non-discrimination with sports competition at that level is beyond me.

Do you support Laurel Hubbard competing with women?

I guess. Her performance falls within female performance levels. She has been beaten by cisgender women, and to my knowledge has not surpassed the world record set by a cisgender woman. It seems her abilities fall within the level of cisgender women.
 
No, they propose girls who are transgender compete with girls.

Transgender girls are boys.

I guess. Her performance falls within female performance levels. She has been beaten by cisgender women, and to my knowledge has not surpassed the world record set by a cisgender woman. It seems her abilities fall within the level of cisgender women.

Laurel Hubbard is a man who went through a male puberty and no amount of female hormones can undo that biological advantage.

If Laurel Hubbard wants to be a weightlifter, he is welcome to be one, and compete with other people who went through a male puberty.
 
No, they propose girls who are transgender compete with girls.

Transgender girls are boys.

You mean like gay men are liars who chose sin?

Or do you mean to play ignorant as if you don't know what being a transgender woman means?

Or are do you really not know, and you're just so silly that you've kept participating in threads on transgender people without knowing.

Laurel Hubbard is a man who went through a male puberty and no amount of female hormones can undo that biological advantage.

Whatever advantages she has or does not have, training as an elite athlete yields performance results competitive with other women.

If Laurel Hubbard wants to be a weightlifter, he is welcome to be one...

She's welcome to compete in women's categories where she qualifies.
 
You mean like gay men are liars who chose sin?

Um, no? What would gay men be lying about?

Sin is an affront against god. Since god doesn't exist, you cannot affront her, and therefore you cannot sin.

Or do you mean to play ignorant as if you don't know what being a transgender woman means?

A transgender woman is a man who identifies as a woman.

Or are do you really not know, and you're just so silly that you've kept participating in threads on transgender people without knowing.

Of course I know what transgender women are. They're biological males who identify as women.

She's welcome to compete in women's categories where she qualifies.

Laurel Hubbard doesn't qualify as a woman, because he's not one.
 
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