May the Food Drive Bless Us Everyone: Walmart, Wages and Workers

[AthenaAwakened]

Recently, Yahoo’s 24/7 Wall Street column sought to identify the nation’s 10 worst paying employers, based on the methodology ultizied by the National Employment Law Project in its 2012 report, “Big Business, Corporate Profits, and the Minimum Wage.”

To the surprise of nobody, Walmart came out on top, achieving the distinction of being the worst paying company in America.

Still, when it comes to Walmart, there are certain analysts and observers who can’t seem to remove the blinders. They continue to insist that Walmart pays its workers an average of over $18.00 per hour when even the company acknowledges that the average full time, hourly rate is $12.83—and that number includes the salaries of some of the highest paid employees in the averaging such as the CEO who earned $20.7 million last year.

Maybe, at long last, the blinders will come off when these deniers are forced to come to grips with the fact that Walmart associates are paid so poorly that a store in Canton, Ohio, located in the northeastern part of the state, now holds an annual, Thanksgiving drive to collect canned foods for fellow Walmart employees in need.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...ing-charity-food-drive-for-its-own-employees/

Sometimes you just want line people up and smack 'em. YOU RUN A GROCERY STORE AND YOU DON'T PAY YOUR PEOPLE ENOUGH TO BUY YOUR FOOD!!!!!

 

[dismal]

Wow, there is not one corporation in the US that pays hourly people less than $12.83 per hour.

This whole minimum wage discussion seems silly now.

 

[Mageth]

Wow, there is not one corporation in the US that pays hourly people less than $12.83 per hour.

This whole minimum wage discussion seems silly now.

What part of "average" do you not understand?

 

[dismal]

Wow, there is not one corporation in the US that pays hourly people less than $12.83 per hour.

This whole minimum wage discussion seems silly now.

What part of "average" do you not understand?

The part where the worst paying company in America would *average* paying $12.83 if they had such phenomenal market power that they would bid wages down to starvation levels if there weren't a minimum wage.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

Wow, there is not one corporation in the US that pays hourly people less than $12.83 per hour.

This whole minimum wage discussion seems silly now.

And once again

Here is the point -----> .

and here is dismal









dismal <--------


Worlds apart.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

What part of "average" do you not understand?

The part where the worst paying company in America would *average* paying $12.83 if they had such phenomenal market power that they would bid wages down to starvation levels if there weren't a minimum wage.

Seriously, do you need us to explain the concept of "average"?

 

[dismal]

Wow, there is not one corporation in the US that pays hourly people less than $12.83 per hour.

This whole minimum wage discussion seems silly now.

And once again

Here is the point -----> .

and here is dismal









dismal <--------


Worlds apart.

As long as we start with the assumption your point is *the* point that's a great post.

Unfortunately we often find in the world that other people have points too.

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The part where the worst paying company in America would *average* paying $12.83 if they had such phenomenal market power that they would bid wages down to starvation levels if there weren't a minimum wage.

Seriously, do you need us to explain the concept of "average"?

Nope.

 

[laughing dog]

The part where the worst paying company in America would *average* paying $12.83 if they had such phenomenal market power that they would bid wages down to starvation levels if there weren't a minimum wage.

Seriously, do you need us to explain the concept of "average"?

You can explain it for him but you cannot understand it for him.

 

[TV and credit cards]

The Atlantic has a good story about businesses that treat their employees fairly. Mentions the good old days when a company and it's employees even referred to each other as a family. Imagine.
Benefit Corporations

Wasn't there a time when many companies used to hand out turkeys to all their employees at Thanksgiving? Walmart could at least hand out a bowl of warm soup. Out back on the loading dock perhaps.

 

[AthenaAwakened]

The Atlantic has a good story about businesses that treat their employees fairly. Mentions the good old days when a company and it's employees even referred to each other as a family. Imagine.
Benefit Corporations

Wasn't there a time when many companies used to hand out turkeys to all their employees at Thanksgiving? Walmart could at least hand out a bowl of warm soup. Out back on the loading dock perhaps.

Some businesses still do hand out turkeys and not just to the lowly, mostly mom and pop operations.

Yay small business.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I still say Universal Basic Income is the answer. Nobody should have to go to a "food bank" or rely on handouts from turkey handout gimmicks.

 

[RavenSky]

Wow, there is not one corporation in the US that pays hourly people less than $12.83 per hour.

This whole minimum wage discussion seems silly now.

Did you miss this part ---->>>> "and that number includes the salaries of some of the highest paid employees in the averaging such as the CEO who earned $20.7 million last year"

or do you not understand what that does to the averages?

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I still say Universal Basic Income is the answer. Nobody should have to go to a "food bank" or rely on handouts from turkey handout gimmicks.

^^^ agree

 

[Axulus]

I still say Universal Basic Income is the answer. Nobody should have to go to a "food bank" or rely on handouts from turkey handout gimmicks.

And how high should it be? Athena says anyone should be able to have an iphone or splurge on $200 shoes. Should someone addicted to cigarettes, smoking 2 packs a day at $8/pack have enough extra left over to cover everything and the cigarettes so they don't have to go to a food bank?

 

[Axulus]

Recently, Yahoo’s 24/7 Wall Street column sought to identify the nation’s 10 worst paying employers, based on the methodology ultizied by the National Employment Law Project in its 2012 report, “Big Business, Corporate Profits, and the Minimum Wage.”

To the surprise of nobody, Walmart came out on top, achieving the distinction of being the worst paying company in America.

Still, when it comes to Walmart, there are certain analysts and observers who can’t seem to remove the blinders. They continue to insist that Walmart pays its workers an average of over $18.00 per hour when even the company acknowledges that the average full time, hourly rate is $12.83—and that number includes the salaries of some of the highest paid employees in the averaging such as the CEO who earned $20.7 million last year.

Maybe, at long last, the blinders will come off when these deniers are forced to come to grips with the fact that Walmart associates are paid so poorly that a store in Canton, Ohio, located in the northeastern part of the state, now holds an annual, Thanksgiving drive to collect canned foods for fellow Walmart employees in need.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...ing-charity-food-drive-for-its-own-employees/

Sometimes you just want line people up and smack 'em. YOU RUN A GROCERY STORE AND YOU DON'T PAY YOUR PEOPLE ENOUGH TO BUY YOUR FOOD!!!!!

Are you taking into account all the part time workers, or should a part time unskilled job be able to feed a family of 4?

 

[AthenaAwakened]

I still say Universal Basic Income is the answer. Nobody should have to go to a "food bank" or rely on handouts from turkey handout gimmicks.

And how high should it be? Athena says anyone should be able to have an iphone or splurge on $200 shoes. Should someone addicted to cigarettes, smoking 2 packs a day at $8/pack have enough extra left over to cover everything and the cigarettes so they don't have to go to a food bank?

Where did I say anything about everybody having an iphone?

Do I often shill brands here?

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...ing-charity-food-drive-for-its-own-employees/

Sometimes you just want line people up and smack 'em. YOU RUN A GROCERY STORE AND YOU DON'T PAY YOUR PEOPLE ENOUGH TO BUY YOUR FOOD!!!!!

Are you taking into account all the part time workers, or should a part time unskilled job be able to feed a family of 4?

READ THE OP!!!!

"They continue to insist that Walmart pays its workers an average of over $18.00 per hour when even the company acknowledges that the average full time, hourly rate is $12.83—and that number includes the salaries of some of the highest paid employees in the averaging such as the CEO who earned $20.7 million last year."

We are talking about full timers

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

I still say Universal Basic Income is the answer. Nobody should have to go to a "food bank" or rely on handouts from turkey handout gimmicks.

And how high should it be?

It should be high enough to afford the basics of life, like food and shelter. And it should be implemented by way of tax refund, and should apply to everybody. It should appear in the negative column when calculating the income tax people owe. For the rich, it would be a deduction. For the poor it would result in a payout to them. Employers would then have to compete for workers, without having the ability to strong arm workers to work for them or starve. Employers would have to pay competitive wages, to get workers to go to work for them. I think this is much better idea than enforcing minimum wage.

 

[lpetrich]

The Walton family makes the Koch family seem generous: The Walmart heirs give to charity like they pay their workers: Very little

 

[Ford]

I still say Universal Basic Income is the answer. Nobody should have to go to a "food bank" or rely on handouts from turkey handout gimmicks.

And how high should it be?

I'm pretty sure we've been over this already.


A living wage is quite simple. If you work a full-time job, it should provide a living.


If you work a full time job but need to supplement your income with welfare, then you aren't earning a living wage.


We're not talking an IPhone in every pot, just that if you put in 40 hours a week, you will be rewarded with an income that puts you above the poverty line.

 

[DBT]

Not only just above the poverty line for 40 hours a week of productive work, but the financial means to provide a reasonably good lifestyle.

 

[J842P]

And how high should it be?

It should be high enough to afford the basics of life, like food and shelter. And it should be implemented by way of tax refund, and should apply to everybody. It should appear in the negative column when calculating the income tax people owe. For the rich, it would be a deduction. For the poor it would result in a payout to them. Employers would then have to compete for workers, without having the ability to strong arm workers to work for them or starve. Employers would have to pay competitive wages, to get workers to go to work for them. I think this is much better idea than enforcing minimum wage.

I agree. It makes much more sense.