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Minimum Rage: The remix

AthenaAwakened

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The loss of unsustainable jobs is no cause for alarm. Unemployment is bad; under paying people is worse, because it distorts the entire economy, and traps people in poverty.

Reduce unemployment by creating real jobs for the unemployed; or training the unemployed to do real jobs, or both. Hiding some unemployment under the rug, by subsidising big corporations to 'employ' people for less than they need to live is bloody stupid. Pretending that not continuing the farce causes loss of jobs is bloody stupid. The jobs 'lost' will not be missed; the people doing them hate every minute of it, and would stop today if they had a choice.

If your businesses can't find a way to get double-digit dollars per hour worth of work out of an extra employee, they shouldn't be in business at all.
Exactly.

Saying MW necessarily causes unemployment is saying CONSUMERS WOULDN'T BUY THE BURGERS UNLESS THEY WERE SUBSIDISED.

No real free market advocate would say it's the proper role of gov't to ensure those same businesses can afford beef, electricity etc that consumers aren't willing to pay for.

It's tacit admission that the 'free market' can't produce results acceptable to a decent society and we should intervene anyway.

So the only jobs out there are burger makers?
No, burger here means low-margin, easily substituted good/service consumers wouldn't be willing to buy if the welfare bill were on the price tag. "Burger-flipper" is common shorthand for low-wage workers, most of whom do prepare and/or serve food, particularly fast food.

You don't believe that there might be some types of jobs that people could go without or?
..eh?

Black teen unemployment is what now? Around 50%. I guess 75% is okay.
Do you?
unemployment among black teens is not due to the minimum wage. Teens tend to work in their neighborhoods and not commute across town or out to the 'burbs. Since a disproportionate number of black teens live in areas with a severely depressed job market, a disproportionate number of teens are unemployed.

This really isn't deep.
 
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