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[Derec]

Three Israelis killed in gun attack by Palestinian assailant

Three Israelis have been killed in a gun attack by a Palestinian assailant at a settlement outside Jerusalem.
Police said the attacker arrived at a rear entrance to the Har Adar settlement at about 7am as security guards were opening a gate to admit Palestinian labourers with permits.
When security guards became suspicious, the individual pulled out a pistol hidden under his shirt and opened fire, fatally wounding three Israelis – a policeman and two civilian security guards – before he was shot and killed.

And how do Palestinians respond to this attack? They celebrate by handing out sweets.

And of course the dead terrorists' family will be richly compensated by Abbass' PA, largely funded by US and EU taxpayers. High time to pass the Taylor Force act to pressure the PA to end this disgusting "pay-to-slay" scheme. It would be best if EU could join the action as well.

 

[repoman]

Islam sucks, but so do Israelis. Don't care.

 

[LordKiran]

Islam sucks, but so do Israelis. Don't care.

More or less seconded with regards to this particular event.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Poor Derec.

 

[Terrell]

The thread title, and others similar to it, reek of "guilt by association" IMO.

 

[Derec]

The thread title, and others similar to it, reek of "guilt by association" IMO.

They reek of opposition to politically correct nonsense about Islam being "religion of peace" or even the false etymology that the word "Islam" means "peace" when it actually means "submission".

 

[Derec]

Islam sucks, but so do Israelis. Don't care.

More or less seconded with regards to this particular event.

Wrong.

There is no moral or other equivalence between Israel and Palestinians. The murdered police officer and security guards were there to protect everybody, including the Palestinian workers. The Palestinian was just a cowardly murderer, and those who celebrate his actions just because he murdered some Israelis, are despicable as well.

Do you think things will improve or worsen for Palestinian workers crossing that checkpoint in response to this attack?

 

[LordKiran]

More or less seconded with regards to this particular event.

Wrong.

There is no moral or other equivalence between Israel and Palestinians. The murdered police officer and security guards were there to protect everybody, including the Palestinian workers. The Palestinian was just a cowardly murderer, and those who celebrate his actions just because he murdered some Israelis, are despicable as well.

Do you think things will improve or worsen for Palestinian workers crossing that checkpoint in response to this attack?

Poor Derec

 

[sharon45]

Wrong.

There is no moral or other equivalence between Israel and Palestinians. The murdered police officer and security guards were there to protect everybody, including the Palestinian workers. The Palestinian was just a cowardly murderer, and those who celebrate his actions just because he murdered some Israelis, are despicable as well.

Do you think things will improve or worsen for Palestinian workers crossing that checkpoint in response to this attack?

Poor Derec

I sincerely doubt it.

 

[Terrell]

The thread title, and others similar to it, reek of "guilt by association" IMO.

They reek of opposition to politically correct nonsense about Islam being "religion of peace" or even the false etymology that the word "Islam" means "peace" when it actually means "submission".

How about making a distinction between law abiding Muslims and violent ones? That distinction, as opposed to titles that appear to paint the entirety of a religion would not reek of guilt by association.

Personally I don't buy into the "religion of peace" thing either; I think anyone could use almost any religion to "justify" violence where it's really not justified to any objective observer.

 

[sharon45]

They reek of opposition to politically correct nonsense about Islam being "religion of peace" or even the false etymology that the word "Islam" means "peace" when it actually means "submission".

How about making a distinction between law abiding Muslims and violent ones? That distinction, as opposed to titles that appear to paint the entirety of a religion would not reek of guilt by association.

It is a provocative headline to catch more attention. Akin to "President Nixon sends Secretary Kissinger a broad."

 

[whichphilosophy]

How about making a distinction between law abiding Muslims and violent ones? That distinction, as opposed to titles that appear to paint the entirety of a religion would not reek of guilt by association.

It is a provocative headline to catch more attention. Akin to "President Nixon sends Secretary Kissinger a broad."

Who was the broad? What was her name?

 

[Derec]

How about making a distinction between law abiding Muslims and violent ones?

Among Palestinians, even most of the ostensibly law-abiding ones support attacks like this one.

That distinction, as opposed to titles that appear to paint the entirety of a religion would not reek of guilt by association.

It's not the entirety of the religion, but Islam tends to engage in violent conflicts all over the world - Israel/Palestinians, Kashmir (India/Paksitan), Rakhine (Burmese/Bengalis) and so on. Nowadays also in US and Europe due to Islamic migration. Over and over again, you see Muslims engage in religious violence.

Personally I don't buy into the "religion of peace" thing either;

Well, that's at least something.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Islam sucks, but so do Israelis. Don't care.

This. Isn't it about time we gave them a common threat to unite them? They learn to get along or we do something to them both? Maybe take the land and give it to the people of Greenland or something.

 

[Derec]

Fatah, the supposedly "moderate" Palestinian faction supports this attack.
Fatah glorifies this morning’s murderer: “A morning scented with the fragrance of the Martyrs”
They are supposed to be "partners for peace"? Is it any wonder that the peace process is in shambles?

The article also goes into the blood money PA is paying the family of this terrorist. Those payments are largely funded by US and EU taxpayers. US and EU must stop funding PA until those payments stop!

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Israel's treatment of Palestinians sickens me. Either give these people equal voting rights within Israel, or give them their full independence.

 

[Derec]

Israel's treatment of Palestinians sickens me.

Palestinian terrorism sickens me.

Either give these people equal voting rights within Israel,

That's a nonstarter, because it would make the "One State" majority Arab Muslim.

or give them their full independence.

Palestinians could have had their own state in 1948, but they decided to attack Israel instead. Jordan and Egypt could have granted Palestinians their own state between 1949 and 1967, but never bothered to.
And since 1967 Israel has tried to work on the peace process, but the Palestinian leaders are literally terrorists and terrorist sympathizers, even the supposedly "moderate" Fatah.
Israel disengaged from Gaza in 2005 and was repaid by Hamas shooting rockets at Israel, proving that Palestinians are not willing to live in peace beside Israel. The only reason that there is a siege of Gaza is because of belligerent behavior by Gaza Palestinians.

So blaming Israel is ridiculous.

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

It isn't 1948. Palestinians are today born into what is essentially a prison colony or concentration camp. They didn't ask to be born there. They didn't do anything in 1948. Their grandparents did.

Using 1948 as an excuse to continue oppressing these people is patently absurd.

 

[sharon45]

It isn't 1948. Palestinians are today born into what is essentially a prison colony or concentration camp. They didn't ask to be born there. They didn't do anything in 1948. Their grandparents did.

Using 1948 as an excuse to continue oppressing these people is patently absurd.

That was clearly only one part of the argument.

 

[LordKiran]

Among Palestinians, even most of the ostensibly law-abiding ones support attacks like this one.

So what? You think its a big deal that Palestinians support his action? Because of course you're aware that's just an expression of personal opinion, which people like YOU insist cannot be considered an act of violence...Until it's later convenient for you to imply I suppose.