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Nancy Benoit to go on $10 bill

Why even have people on the banknotes? Why not landmarks or something else? Why anything at all?

People are generally pretty bad at spotting minor differences between pictures. The exception is faces; people are very good at spotting when a familiar face has changed.

So having detailed portraits on banknotes is a good idea from the point of view of making life as difficult as possible for forgers.
 
Politically correct feminist decision to put a woman, any woman, on the bill...
What's wrong with Alexander Hamilton anyway?

I don't understand the use of the term "politically correct" here. As I understand it, the term is used almost exclusively by the staunch defenders of the status quo to refer to the practice of avoiding language that offends a particular group of people, almost always groups by race or sex. A pejorative term for what most of us consider to be "good manners."

What offensive language are the feminist trying to avoid by putting a woman on our currency? Have we now expanded the meaning of "politically correct" to mean anything that the staunch defenders of the status quo don't think that should be done to benefit groups that they consider to be unworthy?

I have to admit that I never understood the term. Aren't the staunch defenders of the status quo constantly reminding the rest of us that politics is the art of the possible? (Bismark I believe.) Implying that we should settle for whatever we can get, which is usually what the status quo is willing, begrudgingly, to allow us to have. This would mean that the term "politically correct" should refer to things that are considered obtainable within the current politics, not as you are using it, as something that shouldn't be aspired to because it benefits a group that you don't like.

Altogether it seems like a rather imprecise term. I would recommend that you avoid its use.
 
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This is great. An attempt to take domestic violence seriously. I applaud the Treasury for putting Woman on the $10 bill.

RIP in Nancy Benoit.

I have to admit that I had to look up Nancy Benoit. After I did I realized who she was, the murder suicide was rather big news here in Georgia.

Reading her bio I was a little confused by the listing of all of the wrestlers that she "supported." I assume that she functioned as what the gays call a "beard," a female cover to make the wrestlers appear to be straight. As we have learned lately, wrestling, (and high level Republican politics,) is pretty gay.
 
I don't think he will mind much.
By that logic none of the women who we might put on the bill would mind much not being put on it.

None of them "mind", but this isn't about them (they are not people anymore, they are soil). This is about wanting to accurately represent meaningful contributors to our society, who are not accurately represented by past currency selections, due to the sexism and racism of those decisions in which only white males were considered for such an honor or even allowed to hold positions that might be recognized for such an honor. It is also about us wanting our currency to reflect important democratic principles of equality, which requires that we no longer endorse that sexism and racism of the past that is enshrined by the fact that all our widely used forms of currency have only white males.

Although "affirmative action" supporters sometimes use similar justifications, this is not an instance of affirmative action and such arguments don't have the same validity when applied to such policies, precisely because the "people" being chosen are not really people anymore thus those chosen and those not chosen are in no way impacted by the choice.
 
What's your obsession with jerking off?
Not jerking off, you jerking off.

You know, if you play your cards right...

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This is great. An attempt to take domestic violence seriously. I applaud the Treasury for putting Woman on the $10 bill.

RIP in Nancy Benoit.

I have to admit that I had to look up Nancy Benoit. After I did I realized who she was, the murder suicide was rather big news here in Georgia.

Reading her bio I was a little confused by the listing of all of the wrestlers that she "supported." I assume that she functioned as what the gays call a "beard," a female cover to make the wrestlers appear to be straight. As we have learned lately, wrestling, (and high level Republican politics,) is pretty gay.
Actually she was a valet, which is common in professional wrestling. Pretty girls make young boys and boys and old boys want to link whomever the heck they are valeting. Unless, they are a heel. Then they are just a piece of worthless hateful meat, instead of just meat.
 
Why even have people on the banknotes? Why not landmarks or something else? Why anything at all?

People are generally pretty bad at spotting minor differences between pictures. The exception is faces; people are very good at spotting when a familiar face has changed.

So having detailed portraits on banknotes is a good idea from the point of view of making life as difficult as possible for forgers.

or rather, used to be back in the day when copying was done by eye and hand. In the age of cheap color printers, copying the picture accurately enough that people don't notice it's a bit off at the first glance is the lowest hurdle for forgers, whether or not there are faces in the picture.
 
People are generally pretty bad at spotting minor differences between pictures. The exception is faces; people are very good at spotting when a familiar face has changed.

So having detailed portraits on banknotes is a good idea from the point of view of making life as difficult as possible for forgers.

or rather, used to be back in the day when copying was done by eye and hand. In the age of cheap color printers, copying the picture accurately enough that people don't notice it's a bit off at the first glance is the lowest hurdle for forgers, whether or not there are faces in the picture.

True enough, but in general, security features are added, not removed, unless there is a compelling reason to remove them. Or to put it another way, even if notes are trivially easy to forge, that is not a good reason for making forging them even easier.
 
Politically correct feminist decision to put a woman, any woman, on the bill...
What's wrong with Alexander Hamilton anyway?

I don't understand the use of the term "politically correct" here. As I understand it, the term is used almost exclusively by the staunch defenders of the status quo to refer to the practice of avoiding language that offends a particular group of people, almost always groups by race or sex. A pejorative term for what most of us consider to be "good manners."

What offensive language are the feminist trying to avoid by putting a woman on our currency? Have we now expanded the meaning of "politically correct" to mean anything that the staunch defenders of the status quo don't think that should be done to benefit groups that they consider to be unworthy?

I have to admit that I never understood the term. Aren't the staunch defenders of the status quo constantly reminding the rest of us that politics is the art of the possible? (Bismark I believe.) Implying that we should settle for whatever we can get, which is usually what the status quo is willing, begrudgingly, to allow us to have. This would mean that the term "politically correct" should refer to things that are considered obtainable within the current politics, not as you are using it, as something that shouldn't be aspired to because it benefits a group that you don't like.

Altogether it seems like a rather imprecise term. I would recommend that you avoid its use.

I agree that it's an odd term to use. Think about what it _means_; that there is a political reason to cleave to a certain "correct" view so that you won't lose an election. In other words - this is a majority opinion- if you don't hold it, you won't get elected because the voters will think you are vile (or stupid).


So "Politically Correct" means getting with the program.

I mentioned in another thread that when I hear someone use the term "Politically Correct" a somehow a reason to disdain a position, it's obvious that they don't realize they are ranting against the majority of their neighbors. I sort of internally translate it when I hear it - I hear, "Goddamnit, why can't we still call them niggers?" or "Goddamnit why can't we beat our wives for talking back anymore?" The world is going to shit when you lose your privilege, isn't it. Politically Correct; hate it like you hate change.
 
Why even have people on the banknotes? Why not landmarks or something else? Why anything at all?

Because there aren't any buildings with vaginas.

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Since the $20 has been mentioned, Harriet Tubman instead of Jackson might be a good choice. Not really a fan of changing the currency just to have a woman on it.
 
They said they're changing it because the $10 is due for an overhaul.

I don't mind keeping Hamilton on the $10. His contribution to the country was significant, and directly related to currency. But if he's going to be replaced with a woman, her contributions should be of equal significance, not just something currently popular.

My vote is for either Dolly Madison or Eleanor Roosevelt. Dolly Madison created the role of the First Lady as hostess, diplomat, and preserver of national treasures. Eleanor Roosevelt served as First Lady, and as something more than that as Franklin was dying. She was an early champion of Civil Rights, and then went on to be our country's delegate to the UN, where she was the first person to chair the UN Commission on Human Rights and helped draft the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. That's pretty impressive stuff.
 
Politically correct feminist decision to put a woman, any woman, on the bill...
What's wrong with Alexander Hamilton anyway?
It might smell a little bit when the decision to honor someone precedes knowing who it is, but it might be a good smell.
 
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