Native American Actors Walk Off The Set Of Adam Sandler Comedy

[PyramidHead]

There's a difference between using stereotypes to further a joke being made, versus the stereotypes by themselves being the joke. Most of Adam Sandler's recent movies go for the latter style. Here is a fat person, and therefore this scene is funny, because fat people are funny (since they are fat). Look at this old woman falling down, isn't it funny that she's old and she fell down? See this gay man, he has a lisp and likes other men, so it's funny, because it's funny how some people are gay. It's like, where's the actual humor? Perfect example from the leaked script:

Ha ha, native Americans use different words than people who speak English. Isn't it funny how these native Americans use different words to talk about lady parts? It's funny because they said... wait for it... "zum-zum"! So funny! And the person they're talking about is called "Beaver Breath" and "beaver" also means "vagina"! Get it?!

 

[TSwizzle]

The jokes are not particularly offensive or funny.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The jokes are not particularly offensive or funny.

I find that type of humor offensive, because it means the producers don't think they need funny jokes create a comedy.

 

[TSwizzle]

The jokes are not particularly offensive or funny.

I find that type of humor offensive, because it means the producers don't think they need funny jokes create a comedy.

You should probably adjust your expectations, particularly where Sandler films are concerned.


I can't think of a comedy movie I have seen lately that was funny.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I find that type of humor offensive, because it means the producers don't think they need funny jokes create a comedy.

You should probably adjust your expectations, particularly where Sandler films are concerned.


I can't think of a comedy movie I have seen lately that was funny.

Try Sharknado and the even more hilarious Sharknado II.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I find that type of humor offensive, because it means the producers don't think they need funny jokes create a comedy.

You should probably adjust your expectations, particularly where Sandler films are concerned.

When watching a typical Sandler comedy, there is no adjusting your expectations. I either find it funny or not.

I can't think of a comedy movie I have seen lately that was funny.

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 and Wreck it Ralph.

 

[Earl IV]

I just watched "Spinal Tap" for the first time in about 20yrs, about pissed myself laughing.

Does that count as "lately"?


Oh, Adam Sandler is about as funny as those jackass guys (whatever their names are) which is to say, not. at. all.

 

[Potoooooooo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-movie-set-overly-sensitive-racist-jokes.html
'If you're overly sensitive, you should leave': Adam Sandler producer caught on camera telling Native American actors to get off set when they complained about racist jokes

 

[TSwizzle]

Another native American actor, Allison Young, said: 'We talked to the producers about our concerns.
'They just told us, 'If you guys are so sensitive, you should leave.' I was just standing there and got emotional and teary-eyed. I didn't want to cry but the feeling just came over me.

Seems fair enough to me.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Well, what you said is this:

I'm usually spot on with predicting a film's funny bone.

That sounds to me like you're claiming to have some sort of expertise on what is likely to be funny. Which is essentially what I said.

I take it back. I did say that. And I'm right. I have a good eye for judging the quality (or "style) of a comedy, typically from just a preview.

 

[ronburgundy]

There's a difference between using stereotypes to further a joke being made, versus the stereotypes by themselves being the joke. Most of Adam Sandler's recent movies go for the latter style. Here is a fat person, and therefore this scene is funny, because fat people are funny (since they are fat). Look at this old woman falling down, isn't it funny that she's old and she fell down? See this gay man, he has a lisp and likes other men, so it's funny, because it's funny how some people are gay. It's like, where's the actual humor? Perfect example from the leaked script:
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Ha ha, native Americans use different words than people who speak English. Isn't it funny how these native Americans use different words to talk about lady parts? It's funny because they said... wait for it... "zum-zum"! So funny! And the person they're talking about is called "Beaver Breath" and "beaver" also means "vagina"! Get it?!

That seems a rather poor example of you general point (which I don't dispute, because Sandler is entirely unfunny and not very creative).

The intended humor in the scene is not just from ethnic stereotypes themselves. The joke is more about putting the modern trend of women shaving their vaginas in both a past and a culture where its seems out of place. It is also mocks the stereotype (in both past films and romanticized ideologies) that Native Americans are stoic and deeply spiritual, by having them discuss and be so interested in something so shallow and carnal.

If anything, the jokes violate stereotypes of Native Americans more than support them. Movies that show them as proud heroic people where everything is sacred and "spiritual" are the stereotypes that should cause offense. It seems the actors were actually more offended because they were not portrayed stereotypically enough.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The intended humor in the scene is not just from ethnic stereotypes themselves. The joke is more about putting the modern trend of women shaving their vaginas in both a past and a culture where its seems out of place. It is also mocks the stereotype (in both past films and romanticized ideologies) that Native Americans are stoic and deeply spiritual, by having them discuss and be so interested in something so shallow and carnal.

I'd be so interested in your review of Sharknado.

 

[ronburgundy]

The intended humor in the scene is not just from ethnic stereotypes themselves. The joke is more about putting the modern trend of women shaving their vaginas in both a past and a culture where its seems out of place. It is also mocks the stereotype (in both past films and romanticized ideologies) that Native Americans are stoic and deeply spiritual, by having them discuss and be so interested in something so shallow and carnal.

I'd be so interested in your review of Sharknado.

Happily, I didn't see Sharknado and wouldn't likely last 10 minutes without getting intolerably bored. Like I said, Sandler (and likely this movie) are not funny (except for some SNL moments). Maybe other aspects of this film are actually racist, but the quoted scene is not particularly racist or promoting of stereotypes. It's 12 year old humor about vaginas and vaginal hygiene attempting to be made funnier by putting it in the context of Native Americans who stereotypically (but not in the real world) don't think or talk about such base things. It is trying to violate expectations (a standard method of humor) by contrasting against the actual Hollywood stereotype of Native Americans. I'm not applauding it as clever, I just get the intended joke and don't have the knee-jerk reaction that because a joke is is "blue" and involves racial groups it means that the joke is racist. When a stereotype of a group is positive (as is the modern hollywood romanticizing of Native Americans), then a portrayal designed to mock that stereotype may actually cause offense to overly sensitive members of that group.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'd be so interested in your review of Sharknado.

Happily, I didn't see Sharknado and wouldn't likely last 10 minutes without getting intolerably bored.

Bored isn't the word. You'll spend 30 minutes wondering if all the issues with the film are on purpose or not, or whether it was all just the result of a 10 cent film budget. All I know is I'll have to wait for the special extras in the Sharknado Criterion Edition, to get the answers to these questions.

Like I said, Sandler (and likely this movie) are not funny (except for some SNL moments). Maybe other aspects of this film are actually racist, but the quoted scene is not particularly racist or promoting of stereotypes. It's 12 year old humor about vaginas and vaginal hygiene attempting to be made funnier by putting it in the context of Native Americans who stereotypically (but not in the real world) don't think or talk about such base things. It is trying to violate expectations (a standard method of humor) by contrasting against the actual Hollywood stereotype of Native Americans.

That is simply giving it way too much credit. The scene "works" for any race as it is a child making the statement. You don't expect that out of a kid... hence ROFLMFAO.

I'm not applauding it as clever, I just get the intended joke and don't have the knee-jerk reaction that because a joke is is "blue" and involves racial groups it means that the joke is racist. When a stereotype of a group is positive (as is the modern hollywood romanticizing of Native Americans), then a portrayal designed to mock that stereotype may actually cause offense to overly sensitive members of that group.

I agree that race isn't involved, but it is clearly a lazy attempt at developing a humor.

 

[Potoooooooo]

 

[angelo]

The intended humor in the scene is not just from ethnic stereotypes themselves. The joke is more about putting the modern trend of women shaving their vaginas in both a past and a culture where its seems out of place. It is also mocks the stereotype (in both past films and romanticized ideologies) that Native Americans are stoic and deeply spiritual, by having them discuss and be so interested in something so shallow and carnal.

I'd be so interested in your review of Sharknado.

Sharknado was a blockbuster because it had the queen of all bimbos Tara Reid in it! And for the fact that I've seen better acting performances at a primary school play!

 

[angelo]

In extremely bad taste anyway. Sandler let's face it is no academy award winning star. [Actually it's an insult to any other actor in the world to call him an " actor."]

 

[zorq]

In extremely bad taste anyway. Sandler let's face it is no academy award winning star. [Actually it's an insult to any other actor in the world to call him an " actor."]

He is the richest, highest earning star in the world though.

Not Brad Pitt. Not Angelina. Sandler out earns them by far.

Surprised?

I was too.
[edit] I missed points on a trivia night because of this fact but I just went out to research it and I discovered that it isn't true. Sandler IS in the top 10 though.[/edit]

 

[Potoooooooo]

In extremely bad taste anyway. Sandler let's face it is no academy award winning star. [Actually it's an insult to any other actor in the world to call him an " actor."]

He is the richest, highest earning star in the world though.

Not Brad Pitt. Not Angelina. Sandler out earns them by far.

Surprised?

I was too.
[edit] I missed points on a trivia night because of this fact but I just went out to research it and I discovered that it isn't true. Sandler IS in the top 10 though.[/edit]

How popular are his films overseas?

 

[TSwizzle]

You should probably adjust your expectations, particularly where Sandler films are concerned.

When watching a typical Sandler comedy, there is no adjusting your expectations. I either find it funny or not.

I expect Sandler movies to be shit. Of the few of his movies I have seen, he has never failed to deliver. But I must admit, I have never been able to watch an entire Sandler movie.

I can't think of a comedy movie I have seen lately that was funny.

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 and Wreck it Ralph.

I think the last movie I saw that was reasonably funny and entertaining was Dodgeball. And before that, There's Something About Mary.