Native American Actors Walk Off The Set Of Adam Sandler Comedy

[Jimmy Higgins]

When watching a typical Sandler comedy, there is no adjusting your expectations. I either find it funny or not.

I expect Sandler movies to be shit. Of the few of his movies I have seen, he has never failed to deliver. But I must admit, I have never been able to watch an entire Sandler movie.

I think I saw Billy Madison, whatever one that involved him in school. Typically, if a preview for a comedy doesn't even rate a minor brief internal smile, it's going to be a crap comedy. Sandler's previews typical fall under that category.

I can't think of a comedy movie I have seen lately that was funny.

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 and Wreck it Ralph.

I think the last movie I saw that was reasonably funny and entertaining was Dodgeball. And before that, There's Something About Mary.

A Ben Stiller film that was funny? Mystery Men, excluded, Ben Stiller films to me are more awkward and annoying than funny. Dodgeball is a movie that didn't pass my internal comedy censor rating.

 

[KeepTalking]

For the record, Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, and Waterboy were very funny movies. The Wedding Singer and 50 First Dates have some redeeming qualities, but are more romcom than straight comedy. Adam Sandler has made more than his share of not funny comedies, though.

There are still funny movies being made, but they don't feature Sandler. Pick any Simon Pegg movie, chances are that it will make you laugh. I thought This is the End with Seth Rogan and James Franco (and a host of others) was very funny, but even my circle of like minded friends were evenly split on whether it was hilarious, or just 'meh'. It is all in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Jayjay]

It's easy enough to find a movie that gives a couple of good laughs, but is it just me getting old because I can't think of a total laugh fest like Monty Python and the Holy Grail from recent years?

Ok, Hot Fuzz maybe qualifies.

 

[Keith&Co.]

'If you're overly sensitive, you should leave': Adam Sandler producer caught on camera telling Native American actors to get off set when they complained about racist jokes

This response raises my hackles. Partly because it dumps responsibility onto the shoulders of those offended. No indication that there's anything wrong with racist jokes, it's the listener's fault for being overly sensitive.

But mostly because for a long time this was the military response to any women complaining about their treatment. Men used this attitude to marginalize everything from off-color language to rape, resting the blame on the shoulders of women who shouldn't be "so sensitive."
Not to the word: fuck, to physical contact in the passageways, to being flashed, to being groped, to having dye rubbed into their breasts as 'initiation,' ....to Tailhook.

If the jokes are really 'not that bad' because 'we're trying to skewer the stereotypes' not depend on them, then such discussion might be better than 'screw off, we've done nothing wrong, you're wimps.'

 

[TSwizzle]

'If you're overly sensitive, you should leave': Adam Sandler producer caught on camera telling Native American actors to get off set when they complained about racist jokes

This response raises my hackles. Partly because it dumps responsibility onto the shoulders of those offended. No indication that there's anything wrong with racist jokes, it's the listener's fault for being overly sensitive.

But mostly because for a long time this was the military response to any women complaining about their treatment. Men used this attitude to marginalize everything from off-color language to rape, resting the blame on the shoulders of women who shouldn't be "so sensitive."
Not to the word: fuck, to physical contact in the passageways, to being flashed, to being groped, to having dye rubbed into their breasts as 'initiation,' ....to Tailhook.

If the jokes are really 'not that bad' because 'we're trying to skewer the stereotypes' not depend on them, then such discussion might be better than 'screw off, we've done nothing wrong, you're wimps.'

That's quite a leap you have made there !

 

[TSwizzle]

It's easy enough to find a movie that gives a couple of good laughs, but is it just me getting old because I can't think of a total laugh fest like Monty Python and the Holy Grail from recent years?

Ok, Hot Fuzz maybe qualifies.

I think the problem is that it is really difficult to sustain good comedy in a 90 minute movie. Some comedy movies are ok even although they might not be laugh a minute funny and some are just awful. If I put my mind to it, I can remember quite a few comedy movies I quite enjoyed.

 

[Potoooooooo]

 

[angelo]

When watching a typical Sandler comedy, there is no adjusting your expectations. I either find it funny or not.

I expect Sandler movies to be shit. Of the few of his movies I have seen, he has never failed to deliver. But I must admit, I have never been able to watch an entire Sandler movie.

I can't think of a comedy movie I have seen lately that was funny.

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 and Wreck it Ralph.

I think the last movie I saw that was reasonably funny and entertaining was Dodgeball. And before that, There's Something About Mary.

God forbid!! Sandler had something to to with that very funny film " Something About Mary" ???

 

[Saint_of_Me]

Oh, Adam Sandler. You used to be so funny. Why couldn't you have retired five years ago and left us with our memories of you?

Also, these guys answered a casting call to be the Indians in an Adam Sandler cowboy movie. Did they not realize beforehand that this is what they would be doing and how they would be portrayed? I can't think of another way an Adam Sandler cowboy movie would do it.

I hear you.

What did they think they were making: another "Little Big Man" or "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee?"

I am a bit suprised by this, though. It has been my experience that most of the griping done about the insulting of Native American culture; the stereotyping--like with the ridiculous fretting about sports team mascots--is done by liberal whites.

I have spent a good amount of time around Indians. (Yeah..I know that those same people I just mentioned consider that word to be insulting too, but sorry, I'm using it. Simply because a good percentage of the Natives I've known also refer to themselves as Indians.)

I lived in the Black Hills of South Dakota for a couple years, where the 2nd biggest Rez in the country, Pine Ridge (Lakota Sioux) is located. I currently live in Yavapai County (Prescott) AZ. The big Four Corners Rez (the Biggest in the country) is just northeast of us.)

And in all this time I have met very few Natives who are thin-skinned about the media and movies portrayals of them. Most of them just laugh along. Indeed..they seem to dislike it far more when whitey attempts a movie to comiserate with them. Or label the Wasi'chu as the White Devils. I would say that in my experience the flick that most of my Indian acquaintances have derided was "Dances with Wolves."

Which I find deliciously ironic. And nicely "in your face" to the liberal politically-correct-ophiles who make those films.

 

[Potoooooooo]

I would say that in my experience the flick that most of my Indian acquaintances have derided was "Dances with Wolves."

Which I find deliciously ironic. And nicely "in your face" to the liberal politically-correct-ophiles who make those films.

What were their complaints about that movie?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

And in all this time I have met very few Natives who are thin-skinned about the media and movies portrayals of them. Most of them just laugh along. Indeed..they seem to dislike it far more when whitey attempts a movie to comiserate with them. Or label the Wasi'chu as the White Devils. I would say that in my experience the flick that most of my Indian acquaintances have derided was "Dances with Wolves."

Which I find deliciously ironic. And nicely "in your face" to the liberal politically-correct-ophiles who make those films.

Well, I'm having a hard time thinking of a more native-centric film that they could talk about, seeing films typically don't center around natives.

 

[Potoooooooo]

And in all this time I have met very few Natives who are thin-skinned about the media and movies portrayals of them. Most of them just laugh along. Indeed..they seem to dislike it far more when whitey attempts a movie to comiserate with them. Or label the Wasi'chu as the White Devils. I would say that in my experience the flick that most of my Indian acquaintances have derided was "Dances with Wolves."

Which I find deliciously ironic. And nicely "in your face" to the liberal politically-correct-ophiles who make those films.

Well, I'm having a hard time thinking of a more native-centric film that they could talk about, seeing films typically don't center around natives.

Maybe that is why Vanilla Ice said this

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Didn't we deport than guy to some uninhabited island in the Pacific?

 

[Potoooooooo]

From a Native American newspaper

 

[thebeave]

Oh, Adam Sandler. You used to be so funny. Why couldn't you have retired five years ago and left us with our memories of you?

Also, these guys answered a casting call to be the Indians in an Adam Sandler cowboy movie. Did they not realize beforehand that this is what they would be doing and how they would be portrayed? I can't think of another way an Adam Sandler cowboy movie would do it.

I hear you.

What did they think they were making: another "Little Big Man" or "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee?"

I am a bit suprised by this, though. It has been my experience that most of the griping done about the insulting of Native American culture; the stereotyping--like with the ridiculous fretting about sports team mascots--is done by liberal whites.

I have spent a good amount of time around Indians. (Yeah..I know that those same people I just mentioned consider that word to be insulting too, but sorry, I'm using it. Simply because a good percentage of the Natives I've known also refer to themselves as Indians.)

I lived in the Black Hills of South Dakota for a couple years, where the 2nd biggest Rez in the country, Pine Ridge (Lakota Sioux) is located. I currently live in Yavapai County (Prescott) AZ. The big Four Corners Rez (the Biggest in the country) is just northeast of us.)

And in all this time I have met very few Natives who are thin-skinned about the media and movies portrayals of them. Most of them just laugh along. Indeed..they seem to dislike it far more when whitey attempts a movie to comiserate with them. Or label the Wasi'chu as the White Devils. I would say that in my experience the flick that most of my Indian acquaintances have derided was "Dances with Wolves."

Which I find deliciously ironic. And nicely "in your face" to the liberal politically-correct-ophiles who make those films.

You are quite wise about white liberals, grasshoppa. What you say is true, especially on this board. This explains the situation:

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/

Naturally, white people do not get offended by statements directed at white people. In fact, they don’t even have a problem making offensive statements about other white people (ask a white person about “flyover states”). As a rule, white people strongly prefer to get offended on behalf of other people.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I hear you.

What did they think they were making: another "Little Big Man" or "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee?"

I am a bit suprised by this, though. It has been my experience that most of the griping done about the insulting of Native American culture; the stereotyping--like with the ridiculous fretting about sports team mascots--is done by liberal whites.

I have spent a good amount of time around Indians. (Yeah..I know that those same people I just mentioned consider that word to be insulting too, but sorry, I'm using it. Simply because a good percentage of the Natives I've known also refer to themselves as Indians.)

I lived in the Black Hills of South Dakota for a couple years, where the 2nd biggest Rez in the country, Pine Ridge (Lakota Sioux) is located. I currently live in Yavapai County (Prescott) AZ. The big Four Corners Rez (the Biggest in the country) is just northeast of us.)

And in all this time I have met very few Natives who are thin-skinned about the media and movies portrayals of them. Most of them just laugh along. Indeed..they seem to dislike it far more when whitey attempts a movie to comiserate with them. Or label the Wasi'chu as the White Devils. I would say that in my experience the flick that most of my Indian acquaintances have derided was "Dances with Wolves."

Which I find deliciously ironic. And nicely "in your face" to the liberal politically-correct-ophiles who make those films.

You are quite wise about white liberals, grasshoppa. What you say is true, especially on this board. This explains the situation:

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/

Naturally, white people do not get offended by statements directed at white people. In fact, they don’t even have a problem making offensive statements about other white people (ask a white person about “flyover states”). As a rule, white people strongly prefer to get offended on behalf of other people.

And other white people like getting offended when other people are offended.

 

[angelo]

Like many of Sandler's later offerings, this will most likely lose money as well, although all this publicity won't do it any harm.

 

[Potoooooooo]

Native Actor Responds to Critics of Adam Sandler and 'Ridiculous Six'

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwo...ritics-adam-sandler-and-ridiculous-six-160267

Ricky Lee, a Native American actor who worked on The Ridiculous Six, has told the New York Daily News that the controversy over the film is overblown and those who left the set to protest the script were in the extreme minority.

"There were four actors who left, but there were 150 extras, including grandmas and grandpas and children, who kept working," Lee told the Daily News.

 

[Keith&Co.]

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwo...ritics-adam-sandler-and-ridiculous-six-160267

Ricky Lee, a Native American actor who worked on The Ridiculous Six, has told the New York Daily News that the controversy over the film is overblown and those who left the set to protest the script were in the extreme minority.

"There were four actors who left, but there were 150 extras, including grandmas and grandpas and children, who kept working," Lee told the Daily News.

150 extras?
How many of them had dialogue?