Native American Actors Walk Off The Set Of Adam Sandler Comedy

[Potoooooooo]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...ctors-walk-off-the-set-of-adam-sandler-comedy
Native American actors have walked off the set of an Adam Sandler movie that they say insults their culture.

Most of the dozen Native American actors who walked off Wednesday were from the Navajo nation, the Indian Country Today Media Network reported. They said that the script for The Ridiculous Six, an apparent spoof of the classic Western The Magnificent Seven, insults native women and elders, as well as Apaches. Here's more:

"The examples of disrespect included Native women's names such as Beaver's Breath and No Bra, an actress portraying an Apache woman squatting and urinating while smoking a peace pipe, and feathers inappropriately positioned on a teepee."

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Oh, Adam Sandler. You used to be so funny. Why couldn't you have retired five years ago and left us with our memories of you?

Also, these guys answered a casting call to be the Indians in an Adam Sandler cowboy movie. Did they not realize beforehand that this is what they would be doing and how they would be portrayed? I can't think of another way an Adam Sandler cowboy movie would do it.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Oh, Adam Sandler. You used to be so funny.

Maybe on SNL. Didn't he allegedly make a good drama with Punch Drunk Love or something?

Why couldn't you have retired five years ago and left us with our memories of you?

Five years ago? How about just stick to stand up and leave the Silver Screen alone.

Also, these guys answered a casting call to be the Indians in an Adam Sandler cowboy movie. Did they not realize beforehand that this is what they would be doing and how they would be portrayed? I can't think of another way an Adam Sandler cowboy movie would do it.

May not have known who he was. I know I wish I didn't.

 

[dystopian]

Oh, Adam Sandler. You used to be so funny.

I can't think of any Adam Sandler movie except Happy Gilmore that was funny... and Happy Gilmore really wasn't that funny.

 

[Rhea]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...ctors-walk-off-the-set-of-adam-sandler-comedy
Native American actors have walked off the set of an Adam Sandler movie that they say insults their culture.

Most of the dozen Native American actors who walked off Wednesday were from the Navajo nation, the Indian Country Today Media Network reported. They said that the script for The Ridiculous Six, an apparent spoof of the classic Western The Magnificent Seven, insults native women and elders, as well as Apaches. Here's more:

"The examples of disrespect included Native women's names such as Beaver's Breath and No Bra, an actress portraying an Apache woman squatting and urinating while smoking a peace pipe, and feathers inappropriately positioned on a teepee."

I don't like what he does to white culture, either. Good for them.

 

[thebeave]

The days of comedy featuring satire of different races, cultures, religions, etc. are gone I'm afraid. Everyone's just too fucking hypersensitive. Something like Blazing Saddles would probably never get released today, much less approved for production by studio bosses. Kinda sad really.

BTW, I thought Punch Drunk Love was highly overrated. I laughed my ass off watching Big Daddy (at least I think that was the name). Adam is a bit hit and miss it seems.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The days of comedy featuring satire of different races, cultures, religions, etc. are gone I'm afraid. Everyone's just too fucking hypersensitive. Something like Blazing Saddles would probably never get released today, much less approved by studio bosses.

Let me make this clear to you. The issue isn't satire, it is that it isn't funny.

Blazing Saddles was genuine and funny. That is why it worked. It didn't rely on immature Family Guy (post season 3) crap to try to be funny.

To use another example, the Holocaust. The Holocaust and comedy don't go hand in hand. Jerry Lewis's film was tossed into a hell mouth while Roberto Benigni's film was a masterpiece. Why? Because one was done very very very well, and the other... Lewis isn't funny, nor a good film maker.

Satire can live, but it has to be funny.

And to use the term satire for an Adam Sandler film? Really?

 

[Underseer]

Oh, Adam Sandler. You used to be so funny. Why couldn't you have retired five years ago and left us with our memories of you?

Also, these guys answered a casting call to be the Indians in an Adam Sandler cowboy movie. Did they not realize beforehand that this is what they would be doing and how they would be portrayed? I can't think of another way an Adam Sandler cowboy movie would do it.

Some of his standup was funny, but I have never found any of his movies funny.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

"feathers inappropriately positioned on a teepee"

He's gone too far this time.

But he could have avoided all this by using the guys from the Hekawi tribe.

 

[braces_for_impact]

I've noticed that when offense in the medium of humor comes up there's usually someone saying "It's not that it's offensive, it's that it isn't funny." I hear or read this often. Funny is a matter of opinion, not fact. No one is an authority unto themselves on what is funny, except for their own preferences. They sure want people to know about it though.

 

[thebeave]

The days of comedy featuring satire of different races, cultures, religions, etc. are gone I'm afraid. Everyone's just too fucking hypersensitive. Something like Blazing Saddles would probably never get released today, much less approved by studio bosses.

Let me make this clear to you. The issue isn't satire, it is that it isn't funny.

Blazing Saddles was genuine and funny. That is why it worked. It didn't rely on immature Family Guy (post season 3) crap to try to be funny.

To use another example, the Holocaust. The Holocaust and comedy don't go hand in hand. Jerry Lewis's film was tossed into a hell mouth while Roberto Benigni's film was a masterpiece. Why? Because one was done very very very well, and the other... Lewis isn't funny, nor a good film maker.

Satire can live, but it has to be funny.

And to use the term satire for an Adam Sandler film? Really?

How can you say that Adam's movie isn't funny? You've haven't seen the movie yet. Its like seeing a few clips from Blazing Saddles taken out of context and saying its not funny. I'd wait and see the movie before making any claims about its comedy value.

Also, I think you killed the thread by bringing up the Holocaust. Godwin's Law and all.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I've noticed that when offense in the medium of humor comes up there's usually someone saying "It's not that it's offensive, it's that it isn't funny." I hear or read this often. Funny is a matter of opinion, not fact. No one is an authority unto themselves on what is funny, except for their own preferences. They sure want people to know about it though.

But there is craft. There are jokes that are just lazy or Family Guyish where they aren't actually jokes, just references. And then there is well crafted humor. The most comics aren't funny because of one-liners. They are funny because they can tell a narrative. And deliver it well. While what is funny can be subjective, it certainly isn't in such a way it can't be judged by general consensus.

Or to put it more clearly for the case of Blazing Saddles, the film wasn't offensive. It used terms and other mechanisms which could be entirely offensive, but in such a way that makes it work and inoffensive. But remember who was making it work, Mel Brooks.

Let me make this clear to you. The issue isn't satire, it is that it isn't funny.

Blazing Saddles was genuine and funny. That is why it worked. It didn't rely on immature Family Guy (post season 3) crap to try to be funny.

To use another example, the Holocaust. The Holocaust and comedy don't go hand in hand. Jerry Lewis's film was tossed into a hell mouth while Roberto Benigni's film was a masterpiece. Why? Because one was done very very very well, and the other... Lewis isn't funny, nor a good film maker.

Satire can live, but it has to be funny.

And to use the term satire for an Adam Sandler film? Really?

How can you say that Adam's movie isn't funny? You've haven't seen the movie yet. Its like seeing a few clips from Blazing Saddles taken out of context and saying its not funny. I'd wait and see the movie before making any claims about its comedy value.

Seriously? An Adam Sandler film? His films are about as one dimensional as it gets. Sure, not Sharknado bad, but certainly lazy and not funny. I'm usually spot on with predicting a film's funny bone. Ended up liking PCU a lot more than I thought I would, but otherwise, pretty spot on.

Also, I think you killed the thread by bringing up the Holocaust. Godwin's Law and all.

I think Jerry Lewis's film and Benigni's film are extremely relevant because they deal with the toughest subject to deal with in any medium, the Holocaust. Benigni showed how it was possible to create a comedy/drama around the desperate and terrible conditions of the Holocaust. Lewis tried to make a comedy/drama about the Holocaust as well, but it was put into an anti-matter chamber and destroyed. How is that? If comedy is so subjective, why is it that there can be consensus about what is a comedy?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Oh, Adam Sandler. You used to be so funny.

I can't think of any Adam Sandler movie except Happy Gilmore that was funny... and Happy Gilmore really wasn't that funny.

The Wedding Singer, Billy Madison, The Waterboy, Big Daddy, 50 First Dates. Nothing in the past decade, but his early work was quality humour.

 

[thebeave]

But there is craft. There are jokes that are just lazy or Family Guyish where they aren't actually jokes, just references. And then there is well crafted humor. The most comics aren't funny because of one-liners. They are funny because they can tell a narrative. And deliver it well. While what is funny can be subjective, it certainly isn't in such a way it can't be judged by general consensus.

Or to put it more clearly for the case of Blazing Saddles, the film wasn't offensive. It used terms and other mechanisms which could be entirely offensive, but in such a way that makes it work and inoffensive. But remember who was making it work, Mel Brooks.

Let me make this clear to you. The issue isn't satire, it is that it isn't funny.

Blazing Saddles was genuine and funny. That is why it worked. It didn't rely on immature Family Guy (post season 3) crap to try to be funny.

To use another example, the Holocaust. The Holocaust and comedy don't go hand in hand. Jerry Lewis's film was tossed into a hell mouth while Roberto Benigni's film was a masterpiece. Why? Because one was done very very very well, and the other... Lewis isn't funny, nor a good film maker.

Satire can live, but it has to be funny.

And to use the term satire for an Adam Sandler film? Really?

How can you say that Adam's movie isn't funny? You've haven't seen the movie yet. Its like seeing a few clips from Blazing Saddles taken out of context and saying its not funny. I'd wait and see the movie before making any claims about its comedy value.

Seriously? An Adam Sandler film? His films are about as one dimensional as it gets. Sure, not Sharknado bad, but certainly lazy and not funny. I'm usually spot on with predicting a film's funny bone. Ended up liking PCU a lot more than I thought I would, but otherwise, pretty spot on.

Also, I think you killed the thread by bringing up the Holocaust. Godwin's Law and all.

I think Jerry Lewis's film and Benigni's film are extremely relevant because they deal with the toughest subject to deal with in any medium, the Holocaust. Benigni showed how it was possible to create a comedy/drama around the desperate and terrible conditions of the Holocaust. Lewis tried to make a comedy/drama about the Holocaust as well, but it was put into an anti-matter chamber and destroyed. How is that? If comedy is so subjective, why is it that there can be consensus about what is a comedy?

Meh. The fact remains, comedy is subjective. What I would find funny, my mom wouldn't and visa versa. Its a personal thing. You are not the be-all, end-all of what is funny, or likely to be funny or not funny.

All writers, comedians, directors, etc. have their hits and misses. Mel Brooks had some real gems (Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein) and some dogs (History of the World, Part I for one example). George Lucas had Star Wars, but also Howard the Duck. No one knows whether this latest Adam Sandler movie is going to be funny or not....certainly no one here.

 

[Potoooooooo]

These Are the Jokes That Caused Actors To Walk Off Adam Sandler's Set

http://defamer.gawker.com/these-are-the-jokes-that-caused-actors-to-walk-off-adam-1699990455
Two days ago, Native American extras on Adam Sandler’s new Netflix movie The Ridiculous Six walked off the set due to the film’s portrayal of Native Americans. In response, Netflix defended the film as a “broad satire” in which those being made fun of are “in on the joke.” So, who’s right? Well, we got our hands on the script, so everyone can judge for themselves.

 

[Sarpedon]

Blazing Saddles was funny, largely because the racists were the ones who were the butt of the jokes, while the black sheriff character was portrayed as being a normal person, who we were laughing with, rather than at. If what these actors are saying is true, this is highly unlikely to be true in this case.

Like Gary Farmer, who plays a hulking indian dude in lots of movies. (like Dead Man) He frequently says and does funny things, that make people laugh, but the tone is never 'ha, laugh at the stupid indian,' its 'boy, what a goofy guy.' Tone is the key, and I bet these actors were responding to the tone. I trust their perception of it.

Tone.

ETA: So I read the script link posted. Yeah, that 's a big tone problem. And that isn't accidental.

 

[angelo]

When wasythe last time Sandler has made a funny film?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Meh. The fact remains, comedy is subjective. What I would find funny, my mom wouldn't and visa versa. Its a personal thing. You are not the be-all, end-all of what is funny, or likely to be funny or not funny.

Good thing I didn't say I was. What I said is that generally there can be a consensus as to what is generally very good comedy and lazy comedy.

All writers, comedians, directors, etc. have their hits and misses. Mel Brooks had some real gems (Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein) and some dogs (History of the World, Part I for one example). George Lucas had Star Wars, but also Howard the Duck. No one knows whether this latest Adam Sandler movie is going to be funny or not....certainly no one here.

No, I feel pretty safe with my understanding this will be yet another unfunny Sandler film. Now, some people may enjoy it, like many like Will Ferrel films, but the comedy itself will not be very defensible as being high quality comedy.

 

[laughing dog]

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How can you say that Adam's movie isn't funny? You've haven't seen the movie yet.

Using history as a guide, it is a good bet the movie is not funny.

 

[thebeave]

Well, what you said is this:

I'm usually spot on with predicting a film's funny bone.

That sounds to me like you're claiming to have some sort of expertise on what is likely to be funny. Which is essentially what I said.