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NATO's new insane policy in the Ukraine.

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NATO which, of course, means the US, appears to have formulated a new insane policy toward the Ukraine crisis to replace the old, failed insane policy.

There are clear signs that a major war is about to break out in Ukraine: A war actively promoted by the NATO regimes and supported by their allies and clients in Asia (Japan) and the Middle East (Saudi Arabia). The war over Ukraine will essentially run along the lines of a full-scale military offensive against the southeast Donbas region, targeting the breakaway ethnic Ukraine- Russian Peoples Republic of Donetsk and Lugansk, with the intention of deposing the democratically elected government, disarming the popular militias, killing the guerrilla resistance partisans and their mass base, dismantling the popular representative organizations and engaging in ethnic cleansing of millions of bilingual Ukraino-Russian citizens. NATO’s forthcoming military seizure of the Donbas region is a continuation and extension of its original violent putsch in Kiev, which overthrew an elected Ukrainian government in February 2014.

The new policy is will violate the cease-fire and attack eastern Ukraine once again with an objective of destroying all resistance. The really objective, surely however, is to provoke Russia to invade. It is highly unlikely that Putin will stand by and allow the Donbass region to be occupied by Kiev forces. NATO will then use that as an excuse to send NATO troops to Kiev and produce a divided Ukraine with the Western sector eventually being admitted to NATO.

So the new policy isn't a whole lot different from the old strategy except that this new effort comes after Kiev's forces have already gotten their asses kicked by the out-number Eastern forces some months ago. The last time the newly "trained" Ukrainian National Guard went up against the Eastern militias, they were soundly defeated and ran away leaving their heavy weapons behind. That's why the US has had to re-supply them. This new strategy will only work if these units include experienced mercenaries from groups like Academi and Greystone. There is a very good chance, however, that that is secretly what is going on.

So, if the Eastern militia cannot hold off the new Ukrainian "International" Guard, Russia may be forced to intervene, and NATO will very likely send a small force to Kiev and dare the Russians to attack it. And what if the Russians DO attack it? Then what? Do we send reinforcements? Is there anything in Ukraine worth risking World War III? Is Putin's proposal for a federated Ukraine non-aligned between East and West, such a horrible prospect that we cannot entertain it?

Our Ukrainian policy has always been, first and foremost, all about provoking Russia. But why?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/all-out-war-in-ukraine-natos-final-offensive/5415354
 
1) Globalresearch.ca is a crackpot site.

2) We aren't trying to provoke Russia. Russia is trying to regain territory that broke free when their central government got so weak. We are simply trying to help those who don't want to be gobbled up again.

3) We don't even know the balance of forces there--how many Russian troops are there but not in uniform? Probably lots.
 
And "Crackpot" normally means crackpot science.
So if you want to include politics into the term then FoxNews is a crackpot site too by that definition.
 
Anyhow, the goal of US and Europe is a regime change in Russia, Ukraine is merely a tool.
US decided long time ago that Putin is not good for Russia and needs to go.
 
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Global Research also thinks that the Boston marathon bombing was a false flag operation by the CIA.

There are "crackpots" like Fox News and then there are real crackpots like global research.
 
Global Research also thinks that the Boston marathon bombing was a false flag operation by the CIA.

There are "crackpots" like Fox News and then there are real crackpots like global research.
All true. But then there are "crackpots" like senator McCain.
 
And "Crackpot" normally means crackpot science.
So if you want to include politics into the term then FoxNews is a crackpot site too by that definition.

I wouldn't really call Faux Noise "crackpot", they're nowhere near as wacky as globalresearch.ca.
 
And "Crackpot" normally means crackpot science.
So if you want to include politics into the term then FoxNews is a crackpot site too by that definition.

I wouldn't really call Faux Noise "crackpot", they're nowhere near as wacky as globalresearch.ca.

I disagree. Without Smith and Van Susteren the wacko fraction goes to almost infinity.
 
1) Globalresearch.ca is a crackpot site.

2) We aren't trying to provoke Russia. Russia is trying to regain territory that broke free when their central government got so weak. We are simply trying to help those who don't want to be gobbled up again.

3) We don't even know the balance of forces there--how many Russian troops are there but not in uniform? Probably lots.

I don't think you have accurately characterized Global Research, but that isn't the relevant point. The important point I the author of the article.

If Putin is trying to reconquer former Russian lands, why didn't he stay Georgia after the Georgian War? In fact, he didn't even set up a puppet regime. The Georgian government is still hostile to Russia. If he wanted Ukraine, he could have taken it. He could have claimed that he was intervening to restore the democratically-elected government. Militarily he has a huge tactical advantage, and the EU said very early on that they would not support Western military intervention. He could probably have taken again after the fascist regime was defeated at Donetsk. The Ukrainian army was bottled up in Mariupol. I don't think there was much left to defend Kiev. Meanwhile, the NATO has gobble up Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. So it's not hard to see who the expansionists are here if you just open your eyes.

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Our Ukrainian policy has always been, first and foremost, all about provoking Russia. But why?
Not just Ukrainian, Georgian too.
I think US can't tolerate another country with nukes.

So the answer is to get that country to USE their nukes?
 
And "Crackpot" normally means crackpot science.
So if you want to include politics into the term then FoxNews is a crackpot site too by that definition.

I wouldn't really call Faux Noise "crackpot", they're nowhere near as wacky as globalresearch.ca.

Labelling someone you disagree with as "crackpot" is simply a means of avoiding the issue. Not only do you not have to address the facts, you don't have to think about them either. Faux News, and the other mainstream media sites as well are more crackpot than GlobalResearch which actually does do more with news than simply repeat the White House propaganda line.
 
I wouldn't really call Faux Noise "crackpot", they're nowhere near as wacky as globalresearch.ca.

Labelling someone you disagree with as "crackpot" is simply a means of avoiding the issue. Not only do you not have to address the facts, you don't have to think about them either. Faux News, and the other mainstream media sites as well are more crackpot than GlobalResearch which actually does do more with news than simply repeat the White House propaganda line.

I label a site crackpot when they're crackpot. Note that I'm not calling Faux Noise crackpot despite routinely disagreeing with them. I don't label the Guardian a crackpot site despite their preference for US-bashing over the truth.

Rather, it's stuff like this:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-libe...for-the-ebola-outbreak-in-west-africa/5408459

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fluoride-killing-us-softly/5360397

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-os...os-no-videos-a-real-conspiracy-theory/5368456

http://www.globalresearch.ca/search...google-and-youtube-suppress-911-truth/5352982
 
Labelling someone you disagree with as "crackpot" is simply a means of avoiding the issue. Not only do you not have to address the facts, you don't have to think about them either. Faux News, and the other mainstream media sites as well are more crackpot than GlobalResearch which actually does do more with news than simply repeat the White House propaganda line.

I label a site crackpot when they're crackpot. Note that I'm not calling Faux Noise crackpot despite routinely disagreeing with them. I don't label the Guardian a crackpot site despite their preference for US-bashing over the truth.

Rather, it's stuff like this:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-libe...for-the-ebola-outbreak-in-west-africa/5408459

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fluoride-killing-us-softly/5360397

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-os...os-no-videos-a-real-conspiracy-theory/5368456

http://www.globalresearch.ca/search...google-and-youtube-suppress-911-truth/5352982

All of these articles are documented. Did you bother to read them? Or are you going to say that our government, which told us about "mass graves in Kosovo," WMD in Iraq," and "If you like your health care plan you can keep it," would never lie to us?
 
I label a site crackpot when they're crackpot. Note that I'm not calling Faux Noise crackpot despite routinely disagreeing with them. I don't label the Guardian a crackpot site despite their preference for US-bashing over the truth.

Rather, it's stuff like this:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-libe...for-the-ebola-outbreak-in-west-africa/5408459

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fluoride-killing-us-softly/5360397

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-os...os-no-videos-a-real-conspiracy-theory/5368456

http://www.globalresearch.ca/search...google-and-youtube-suppress-911-truth/5352982

All of these articles are documented. Did you bother to read them?
I looked at the first one for example: "U.S. is Responsible for the Ebola Outbreak in West Africa: Liberian Scientist". The documentation is some conspiracy theorist scientist claiming that DoD is conducting experiments in West Africa by injecting people with Ebola. The article has a correction that this isn't actually true. The rest of it just talks about the Syphilis experiments in 1930s in New Guinea.

It's a bunch of conspiracy theorist drivel that's not worth my time.

The NATO article in your opening post falls into the same category: It suggests that NATO has a plan to kill and or otherwise ethnicaly cleanse millions of people in Eastern Ukraine just for shits and giggles. Yeah sure, if the some politicians mislead about health care law of course it means that they are planning to commit mass murder abroad, inject people with ebola and syphilis, deliberately poison American people with flouride, and were behind the 9/11 attacks and Bostom marathon bombing. :rolleyes:
 
I label a site crackpot when they're crackpot. Note that I'm not calling Faux Noise crackpot despite routinely disagreeing with them. I don't label the Guardian a crackpot site despite their preference for US-bashing over the truth.

Rather, it's stuff like this:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-libe...for-the-ebola-outbreak-in-west-africa/5408459

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fluoride-killing-us-softly/5360397

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-os...os-no-videos-a-real-conspiracy-theory/5368456

http://www.globalresearch.ca/search...google-and-youtube-suppress-911-truth/5352982

All of these articles are documented. Did you bother to read them? Or are you going to say that our government, which told us about "mass graves in Kosovo," WMD in Iraq," and "If you like your health care plan you can keep it," would never lie to us?

You mean you don't recognize those things are crackpot??

As for Kosovo--mass graves have been found. You ignored the article I linked last time you made that claim.
 
As for Kosovo--mass graves have been found. You ignored the article I linked last time you made that claim.

Shouldn't have bothered, I've told the pro-russians about the evidence for mass graves on multiple occasions to no effect. It seems to be one of those bizarrely out of context talking points that inexplicably gets thrown around by members of the pro-russian crowd as if they genuinely think its an argument for Russia doing what it's done.
 
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