No gummy bears for you!

[Keith&Co.]

I’m trying to paint the picture they are doing without what for no good reason is no longer a choice.

Yeah, I get what you're trying to do. I don't think that you're succeeding, though.
I really don't think it's something they're going to miss.

If last year's daily meals was a rotation of roast beef, tacos, pepperoni pizza, spaghetti, hamburgers, pork loin, kabobs, chili, and crab cakes; and this year's same provider is asked for: roast beef, tacos, hamburger pizza, spaghetti, hamburgers, kabobs, chili, and crab cakes, I really don't see why any group of day-care kids are going to feel deprived from the loss of pork loins. MAYBE the pepperoni.

If we’re going to allow those that are different in, the least they could do is TRY not to violate the bad apple principle.

Except the two muslim children and their parents are NOT the ones who made this decision.
The business made this decision. I personally suspect it was more for efficiency and protection from liability, dressed up as 'respect for the children,' is that acceptable for you? It's purely secular, and money based.

 

[fast]

A DAYCARE is not a restaurant. And meals are not a 'choice of menu items'. You have no idea what you're talking about.

It’s easy for the owner of a restaurant to remain unenlightened and out of touch with the satisfaction or lack thereof of his clientele when complaints walk out the doors unspoken.

When you stand in front of a class and unjustly berate someone, no word subsequently uttered is not a thought gone unprocessed.

There’s a principle of the matter here that is important.

While I appreciate any technical inacccuracies you point out, ...

I’m reminded of the notion that just because we can do something, that doesn’t necessarily mean we should. This shouldn’t have been an either them or us situation. Their actions wasn’t in my book a solution but a deflection.

Anyway, it’s not my fight. I guess so long as no harm was done, everything is just honkey dorey fine. Who knows, maybe they’ll find some more reasons to eliminate their own options

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

A DAYCARE is not a restaurant. And meals are not a 'choice of menu items'. You have no idea what you're talking about.

It’s easy for the owner of a restaurant to remain unenlightened and out of touch with the satisfaction or lack thereof of his clientele when complaints walk out the doors unspoken.

When you stand in front of a class and unjustly berate someone, no word subsequently uttered is not a thought gone unprocessed.

There’s a principle of the matter here that is important.

While I appreciate any technical inacccuracies you point out, ...

I’m reminded of the notion that just because we can do something, that doesn’t necessarily mean we should. This shouldn’t have been an either them or us situation. Their actions wasn’t in my book a solution but a deflection.

Anyway, it’s not my fight. I guess so long as no harm was done, everything is just honkey dorey fine. Who knows, maybe they’ll find some more reasons to eliminate their own options

You might be looking at this the wrong way. Right now this is an opportunity to invest in a pork loving Daycare center located next to one of these day cares. Consumers will flock to the Daycare you are backing because of its adherence to the greatness of pork. You'll be rich.

You could name it Porky's Day Care or Day Cares 'n Pork.

Actually the names probably aren't a good idea. The translation into German could get troublesome.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Wow... from pork products to murder.

I will admit most moral systems on the planet DO get a little het up on the subject of Long Pig...

 

[KeepTalking]

It’s easy for the owner of a restaurant to remain unenlightened and out of touch with the satisfaction or lack thereof of his clientele when complaints walk out the doors unspoken.

I know, right. I mean, just the other day, I walked into Chik-Fil-A* and they refused to serve me pork. I walked right on out the doors without another word.






*My story is not actually true, I have never voluntarily walked into a Chik-Fil-A in my life.

 

[Keith&Co.]

You could name it Porky's Day Care or Day Cares 'n Pork.

I never really understood the Barbecue joints using a pig to sell pork.
I'd name my rib joint after The Big Bad Wolf. If anyone knows tasty pork, it'd be Big B. Wolf.

 

[Jarhyn]

You could name it Porky's Day Care or Day Cares 'n Pork.

I never really understood the Barbecue joints using a pig to sell pork.
I'd name my rib joint after The Big Bad Wolf. If anyone knows tasty pork, it'd be Big B. Wolf.

Big Bad's BBQ,

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Deliverance Day Care?

 

[ZiprHead]

You could name it Porky's Day Care or Day Cares 'n Pork.

I never really understood the Barbecue joints using a pig to sell pork.
I'd name my rib joint after The Big Bad Wolf. If anyone knows tasty pork, it'd be Big B. Wolf.

Big Bad's BBQ,

B.B. Wolf PHD (Pigs Hang Deliciously) BBQ

 

[dismal]

It’s easy for the owner of a restaurant to remain unenlightened and out of touch with the satisfaction or lack thereof of his clientele when complaints walk out the doors unspoken.

I know, right. I mean, just the other day, I walked into Chik-Fil-A* and they refused to serve me pork. I walked right on out the doors without another word.






*My story is not actually true, I have never voluntarily walked into a Chik-Fil-A in my life.

In the real world Chik-fil-A gots bacon.

If they won't serve it to you maybe you're on some sort of list.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I was once on the parent/teacher council of my kids' elementary school and one time someone tried to make a rule that they only serve vegan food during school events.

I felt so oppressed by how radical liberals were trying to destroy society for the sake of evil.

 

[fast]

Yeah, I get what youI really don't think it's something they're going to miss.

I agree with you. Steal something small out my back yard, and I highly doubt I’ll miss it. It might look like the analogy is intended to compare what they’re doing to stealing. That’s not my intent. It’s my intent to show that doing something that isn’t right is still wrong even if it being missing isn’t noticed.

A better analogy would be an ice cream shop owner putting a prejudice manager in charge of ice cream flavor offerings. If flavors 5, 12, and 18 represent 92% of sales from blacks, he might curb their presence by eliminating those flavors. Nothing wrong with taking a choice of the menu, but if it’s ever learned why, it could be an issue.

If last year's daily meals was a rotation of roast beef, tacos, pepperoni pizza, spaghetti, hamburgers, pork loin, kabobs, chili, and crab cakes; and this year's same provider is asked for: roast beef, tacos, hamburger pizza, spaghetti, hamburgers, kabobs, chili, and crab cakes, I really don't see why any group of day-care kids are going to feel deprived from the loss of pork loins. MAYBE the pepperoni.

I hear ya. I really do. It’s usually others that make a mountain out of a mole hill. I guess it me this time. It’s like you’re saying “no harm, no foul” and I (for one) can actually appreciate that. Still, noticing this and that or feeling this or that all perhaps true doesn’t really stand up to what I’m saying.

The day care has made a decision. They have the right to do that. But, the reasoning for their decision was made public, and the reasoning should tick off some people. Let’s say it doesn’t. Where does that leave me? Do I have to wait around for people to get shitten so I can explain it?

Except the two muslim children and their parents are NOT the ones who made this decision.
The business made this decision.

I’m dead on your heels with that one. I got that. Didn’t the article kinda seriously downplay the impact this would have for all other members? It’s not even the impact but the reason for it that can get stuck in yer craw!

I personally suspect it was more for efficiency and protection from liability, dressed up as 'respect for the children,' is that acceptable for you? It's purely secular, and money based.

That reminds me of my very long-standing view to be wary of explanations. Not yours. You’re probably right. The example I always cite is like a bank (back in the day) offering over-draft protection to help protect their customers. The “to” (or for the purpose of) is so overwhelmingly doubful even when it might actually help ... when the REAL reason was given.

There’s also the highly deceitful side of the equation that what they purport to be why just conveniently coincides giving them opportunity of a bogus reason. I wonder if it just backfired ... kind of how I suspect what happened to that cop in the thread that was turned down for employment.

 

[fast]

It’s easy for the owner of a restaurant to remain unenlightened and out of touch with the satisfaction or lack thereof of his clientele when complaints walk out the doors unspoken.

I know, right. I mean, just the other day, I walked into Chik-Fil-A* and they refused to serve me pork. I walked right on out the doors without another word.






*My story is not actually true, I have never voluntarily walked into a Chik-Fil-A in my life.

Okay, I apparently suck at analogies. Shoot my neighbors foot!

If it’s something that isn’t ordinarily sold, not selling something isn’t necessarily a refusal to sell something.
If it’s something that is ordinarily sold but are currently out of stock, even that is not a refusal.
If you have it and are capable of selling it and say no, that’s more apt to be a refusal.

At any rate, i don’t put in the effort to originate analogies to cover every aspect—just the particular point trying to be made. Maybe thats my problem?

 

[Keith&Co.]

It’s like you’re saying “no harm, no foul” and I (for one) can actually appreciate that.

No, it's like YOU keep saying 'deprived' and I keep saying 'not.'

The day care has made a decision. They have the right to do that. But, the reasoning for their decision was made public, and the reasoning should tick off some people. Let’s say it doesn’t.

No, back up a stage. I just do not see why that reasoning should tick anyone off.
They are taking NOTHING away from the full omnivores, and doing nothing EXTRA for the dietary restricted. They just took the products of one animal off the menu. WHY is that a deal? Big, small, whatever.
Why should anyone take this personally?

Where does that leave me? Do I have to wait around for people to get shitten so I can explain it?

Not at all. You keep trying to explain but you keep using analogies that fail.
Murder? We're talking about daycare. Kids are getting fed every single day. They aren't being deprived of shit that's going to matter to them.

It’s not even the impact but the reason for it that can get stuck in yer craw!

Yeah, not sharing that at all... .

 

[laughing dog]

I’m reminded of the notion that just because we can do something, that doesn’t necessarily mean we should.

Apparently not when you respond in this thread.

 

[fast]

I just do not see why that reasoning should tick anyone off.

I’m gonna reflect on this.

 

[Toni]

Two day cares in Germany wanted to ban all pork products in order to not offend Muslims. And yes, that includes gummy bears and other gelatin-containing desserts.

German daycares under police protection after plans to stop serving pork

Plans to no longer serve children pork or gelatin-containing products like gummy bears at two daycare centers in the eastern German city of Leipzig prompted a wave of criticism online and made headlines across the country on Tuesday.

The mass-circulation Bild newspaper first reported about the daycare's proposal, saying the centers decided to make the changes out of consideration to two Muslim children.

"Out of respect for a changing world, only pork-free meals and snacks will be ordered and served starting from July 15," read a letter sent to parents, according to Bild.

Germany is only facing a "changing world" because of their idiotic migration policies that have become a lot more stupider under Angela Merkel.

Are you trying to suggest that this is an over correction to how the Germans treated the last demographic group who did not eat pork?

 

[Half-Life]

Imagine there was a majority atheist country and Christians moved in and the atheist day cares said, "We're gonna stop serving food X so it doesn't offend the Christians." That would NEVER happen and you know it! Atheists would NEVER bend over for Christians!

All we heard was "Germans aren't bending over to Muslims! the Muslims will bend over to the Germans!"

Yeah, that's not happening. You guys are wrong again. Let's see what other stupid law they put in place to avoid offending the Muslims.

 

[Half-Life]

Two day cares in Germany wanted to ban all pork products in order to not offend Muslims. And yes, that includes gummy bears and other gelatin-containing desserts.

German daycares under police protection after plans to stop serving pork

Plans to no longer serve children pork or gelatin-containing products like gummy bears at two daycare centers in the eastern German city of Leipzig prompted a wave of criticism online and made headlines across the country on Tuesday.

The mass-circulation Bild newspaper first reported about the daycare's proposal, saying the centers decided to make the changes out of consideration to two Muslim children.

"Out of respect for a changing world, only pork-free meals and snacks will be ordered and served starting from July 15," read a letter sent to parents, according to Bild.

Germany is only facing a "changing world" because of their idiotic migration policies that have become a lot more stupider under Angela Merkel.

Are you trying to suggest that this is an over correction to how the Germans treated the last demographic group who did not eat pork?

How many American or German day cares ban meat because it might offend Hindus? I will wait for the answer, but I already know the answer.

 

[Derec]

Are you trying to suggest that this is an over correction to how the Germans treated the last demographic group who did not eat pork?

That is very much part of what is going on. Start with your typical "white guilt" of the American Left, take it to the 3rd power, and you have some idea of the moral inferiority complex Germans experience, to their (probably fatal at this point) national detriment.