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If these people can unilaterally ignore such subpoenas, are they really productive? Seriously, what's the point of them?
 

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These kinds of situations remind me of a comedian's sketch I saw a long time ago about police without guns: "Stop! Or I'll say 'stop' again!"
 

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Opinion | Why We Have to Wave the ‘Bloody Shirt’ of Jan. 6 - The New York Times
Policy is rational. Politics is not. It takes a story to move voters, an emotional connection that tells them something about themselves and the world in which they live or, alternately, the world in which they would like to live.

Without a story to tell — without a way to make the issues of an election speak to the values of an electorate — even strong candidates with popular policies can fall flat. And the reverse is also true: A divisive figure with unpopular beliefs can go far if he or she can tell the right kind of story to the right number of people.
Author Jamelle Bouie then reviewed some history.

The Republican Party, in the 1860's, was not as secure in its position as one might think.
Anxious to retain power in Washington, Republicans took every opportunity to pin the late rebellion on their Democratic opponents, north and south. None of it was subtle.

Supporters of Ulysses S. Grant in the 1868 presidential election, for example, urged Unionists to “Vote as you shot.” Likewise, in a speech for Grant, Gen. Ambrose Burnside, referring to violence against Republicans and freed Blacks in the states of the former Confederacy, attacked the Democratic nominee, Horatio Seymour, a former governor of New York, as “emphatically the leader of the new rebellion as Robert E. Lee was of the old.”
They did it again in 1870.
Democrats, and conservative white Southerners in particular, would come to call this the bloody shirt strategy, after an apocryphal story in which Benjamin Butler of Massachusetts used the bloodied shirt of a wounded soldier in a speech on the floor of the House of Representatives. “The phrase was used over and over during the Reconstruction era,” writes Stephen Budiansky in “The Bloody Shirt: Terror After Appomattox”: “It was a staple of the furious and sarcastic editorials that filled Southern newspapers in those days, of the indignant orations by Southern white political leaders who protested that no people had suffered more, been humiliated more, been punished more than they had.”
Whining about what big victims they were.
If the bloody shirt enraged Democratic partisans — if the term itself became, as Budiansky writes, “a synonym for any rabble-rousing demagoguery” aimed at “stirring old enmities” — it was because it worked.

The bloody shirt helped President Grant win his 1872 race for re-election, as his supporters and surrogates hammered Democrats as recalcitrant rebels. ...

The bloody shirt shaped the 1876 campaign as well. ...

Republicans kept on waving the bloody shirt, kept on tying their candidates to patriotic feeling and memories of the war ...
going into detail about how Republican politicians linked Democratic ones to the former Confederacy.

JB continues:
What is important is that the Republican Party never took for granted that voters would blame the Democratic Party for its role in the rebellion and vote accordingly. Republican politicians had to make salient the public’s memory of, and anger over, the war. And, I should say, they were right to do so. It was right to wave the bloody shirt in the wake of a brutal, catastrophic war that according to recent estimates claimed close to a million lives. That we, as modern Americans, learn the phrase as a negative is an astounding coup of postwar Southern propaganda.
Like the "Lost Cause" narrative, about the South being heroic martyrs.
 

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Opinion | What We Did the Last Time We Broke America - The New York Times
Politics was vigorous and nasty from around 1860 to around 1900, then it quieted down. Politicians got a lot done in the first two decades of the 20th cy., but political participation went down from 80% to 50% voting, and long incumbencies became common.

I'd add the 1850's to his timeline, with strife between supporters and opponents of slavery, like in "Bleeding Kansas".

So the US may be returning to the 2nd half of the 19th cy in this regard.
 

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Opinion | Cori Bush and A.O.C. Are Right About Jan. 6 and 1866 - The New York Times

Meaning that Congresspeople who supported the Jan. 6 insurrection should be expelled. Author Jamelle Bouie then went into some history, of what happened after the Civil War.
The original context for this, obviously, was the Civil War and its immediate aftermath. By the summer of 1865, President Andrew Johnson, a conservative Unionist from Tennessee, had taken charge of Reconstruction with a plan to restore the Southern states as equals, their political and constitutional status essentially unchanged from what it was before the war.

Under Johnson’s arrangement, the former Confederate states could operate under their antebellum constitutions, the end of slavery notwithstanding. All-white electorates could elect all-white legislatures and send all-white delegations to Washington. Some of these men were, like Johnson, conservative Unionists. Many more were former rebel leaders. Alexander Stephens — of the infamous Cornerstone Speech — was elected to represent Georgia in the Senate in 1866 after he was arrested and imprisoned as the former vice president of the Confederacy in 1865.
The end of slavery meant the end of the 3/5 compromise, meaning that Southern states would have even larger reference populations for determining representation, giving them even more seats in the House.

To head off this threat, Republicans took two steps. First, they refused to recognize, much less seat, members from the states readmitted under Johnson’s policies. And then, looking to the future, they wrote this prohibition on former Confederate leaders into the Constitution as Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Republicans would prevent the reascendance of this “slave power” with a blockade of federal office deployed against Southern elites.

If the ultimate goal of Section 3, in other words, was to preserve the integrity of Congress against those who would capture its power and plot against the constitutional order itself, then Representative Bush is right to cite the clause against any members of Congress who turn out to have collaborated with the plotters to overturn the election and whose allies are still fighting to “stop the steal.”
 
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Ex-MMA Fighter Who Punched a Cop on Jan. 6 Gets Biggest Sentence Yet

Scott Fairlamb has become the first U.S. Capitol rioter to be sentenced for violence against law enforcement, receiving a prison term of 41 months. The New Jersey ex-MMA fighter, who punched a Capitol cop in the face, pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer and obstructing an official proceeding. His sentence, three months shorter than the one federal prosecutors had sought, is the longest received by a rioter yet.

“I truly regret my actions that day. I have nothing but remorse,” the 44-year-old said on Wednesday, adding that he hoped the judge would “show some mercy on me, sir.” In addition to being filmed attacking an officer, Fairlamb was captured waving a collapsible police baton around, shouting, “What [do] patriots do? We fucking disarm them and we storm the fucking Capitol!”
 

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Swift Ruling in Jan. 6 Case Tests Trump's Tactic of Delay - The New York Times - "The former president has leveraged the slow judicial process in the past to thwart congressional oversight, but the Jan. 6 case may be different."
On the surface, a judge’s ruling on Tuesday night that Congress can obtain Trump White House files related to the Jan. 6 riot seemed to echo another high-profile ruling in November 2019. In the earlier matter, a judge said a former White House counsel must testify about then-President Donald J. Trump’s efforts to obstruct the Russia investigation.

In both cases, Democratic-controlled House oversight committees issued subpoenas, Mr. Trump sought to stonewall those efforts by invoking constitutional secrecy powers, and Obama-appointed Federal District Court judges — to liberal cheers — ruled against him. Each ruling even made the same catchy declaration: “presidents are not kings.”

But there was a big difference: The White House counsel case two years ago had chewed up three and a half months by the time Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson issued a 120-page opinion to end its first stage. Just 23 days elapsed between Mr. Trump’s filing of the Jan. 6 papers lawsuit and Judge Tanya Chutkan’s ruling against him.

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Judge Rejects Trump’s Bid to Keep Papers Secret in Jan. 6 Inquiry - The New York Times - "But a Trump lawyer has signaled an intent to appeal the ruling, which raises novel issues about an ex-president’s executive privilege powers."
Mr. Trump “does not acknowledge the deference owed to the incumbent president’s judgment. His position that he may override the express will of the executive branch appears to be premised on the notion that his executive power ‘exists in perpetuity,’” Judge Chutkan wrote. “But presidents are not kings, and plaintiff is not president.”

Mr. Trump retained the right to assert that his records were privileged, she added, but Mr. Biden was not obliged to honor that assertion. The incumbent president, she said, is better situated to protect executive branch interests, and Mr. Trump “no longer remains subject to political checks against potential abuse of that power.”
Does Trump think that he is King George III? King Louis XIV of France? Someone who allegedly stated at one point "l'état, c'est moi" ("I am the state").
 

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January 6 committee issues 10 more subpoenas including to Stephen Miller and Kayleigh McEnany - CNNPolitics

  • Nicholas Luna, former President Donald Trump's personal assistant
  • Molly Michael, Trump's special assistant to the President and Oval Office operations coordinator
  • Ben Williamson, Trump's deputy assistant to the President and senior adviser to then-chief of staff Mark Meadows
  • Christopher Liddell, former Trump White House deputy chief of staff
  • John McEntee, Trump's White House personnel director
  • Keith Kellogg, national security adviser to then-Vice President Mike Pence
  • Kayleigh McEnany, former White House press secretary under Trump
  • Stephen Miller, Trump senior adviser
  • Cassidy Hutchinson, special assistant to the President for legislative affairs
  • Kenneth Klukowski, former senior counsel to Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Clark.
The article then went into detail as to why they are wanted. Like
McEnany "made multiple public statements from the White House and elsewhere about purported fraud in the November 2020 election. For example, in the first White House press conference after the election, Ms. McEnany claimed that there were 'very real claims' of fraud that the former President's reelection campaign was pursuing, and said that mail-in voting was something that 'we have identified as being particularly prone to fraud.' At another press conference, Ms. McEnany accused Democrats of 'welcoming fraud' and 'welcoming illegal voting,' " the panel said. In addition, McEnany was reportedly present at times with the former President as he watched the January 6 attack.

Exclusive: January 6 committee interested in at least 5 people from Pence's inner circle - CNNPolitics

"According to sources familiar with the discussions, some Pence aides are proving more willing to engage with the committee than previously made public."
 

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Does Trump think that he is King George III? King Louis XIV of France? Someone who allegedly stated at one point "l'état, c'est moi" ("I am the state").
Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that the results of this ruling and the subsequent subpoenas in your latest post will amount to nothing.

Sure, a few might consider appearing before the 1/6 committee, but for the most part it will be "so? You can't make me."

Then the feckless Congress and DOJ under Garland will say "well, they said no. What else can we do?"
 

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"Goodbye, America!": A California Man Who Allegedly Took Part In The Jan. 6 Capitol Riot Is Seeking Asylum In Belarus

Evan Neumann, wanted for attacking a police officer and entering the Capitol during the insurrection, told a Belarusian state-run TV news channel that he crossed through snake-infested swamps and forests from Ukraine.

What do you bet he will be on RTV soon
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Neumann said in the news segment titled “Goodbye, America!” that he went to extreme lengths to evade arrest by US law enforcement, sketching out a Catch Me if You Can–style escape.

He said he flew to the EU in March under the guise of a business trip and then traveled to Switzerland by train. From there, he said he drove to Germany and onward to Poland. He then crossed into Ukraine and settled in central Zhytomyr in mid-March. He rented an apartment there for four months, he said, before he decided to flee that country, as well.

Neumann said he left Ukraine after noticing that he was being followed by agents from the Ukrainian security service, the SBU. In August, under the cover of night, he explained, he crossed illegally by foot into Belarus, making his way through swampy forest land and dodging wild boars and snakes.

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ABC 7 reported that Neumann sold his two-bedroom, one-bath home in Mill Valley in April for $1.3 million. The buyer of Neumann’s home told the news channel, “There was pressure to close. The last we heard is he was in Ukraine.”
He was involved in a previous election revolt, the 2004 Orange Revolution in Ukraine against the rigged election of Viktor Yanukovych as President. He went on to win an election fairly in 2010, though his rule was overthrown in the Euromaidan Revolution of 2014. "Photos from the criminal complaint also show Neumann among the Jan. 6 mob wearing a scarf from the Orange Revolution."
 

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VP Mike Pence And Staff Locked Out Of Capitol Offices On Jan 6 - Access Badges Had Been Deactivated

BREAKING: EXCLUSIVE: THREAD: Pence, his aides, and staff were locked out of their offices in the capitol complex during the insurrection because their access badges had been DEACTIVATED the morning of the attack, according to sources familiar with the incident 1/
According to one source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to an ongoing investigation, Pence's team huddled in a loading dock, unable to access their offices, and started planning contingencies for a constitutional crisis and how to remove the president. 2/
The access badges worked that morning before the mob entered the capitol, but once Pence was removed from the chamber floor, their badges no longer worked. Access was restored later that night after the threat was over. 3/
 

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They then discussed the Trump supporters who were chanting, “Hang Mike Pence,” during the insurrection.

“Because you heard those chants — that was terrible,” Karl said.

“Well, the people were very angry,” Trump replied.

“They were saying, ‘Hang Mike Pence,’” Karl said.

“Because it’s common sense, Jon,” Trump replied. “It’s common sense that you’re supposed to protect. How can you ... if you know a vote is fraudulent, right? How can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress? How can you do that?”
 

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Liz Cheney condemns ‘false flag’ Capitol attack claim seen in Tucker Carlson film
In an apparent swipe at the Fox News host Tucker Carlson, the anti-Trump Republican Liz Cheney said on Sunday it was “dangerous” and “un-American” to suggest the deadly assault on the US Capitol on 6 January was a “false flag” attack.

Conspiracy theorists say “false flag” attacks are staged by the government to achieve its own ends. A documentary produced by Carlson for the Fox Nation streaming service, Patriot Purge, contains such a suggestion about the Capitol attack.
 

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  • It wasn't anything at all.
  • It was just people exercising their constitutional rights.
  • It was a false-flag operation!
All arguments used by the same disingenuous people.
 

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It was antifa members on a tourist visit to the Capitol in support of an authoritarian President and chanting to hang the VP, just as the Declaration of Independence directs. That makes sense, right?
 

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  • It wasn't anything at all.
  • It was just people exercising their constitutional rights.
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All arguments used by the same disingenuous people.
Also:
it was patriots using their common sense.
The people in jail for Jan. 6 are not nasty anitfa BMl, but righteous political prisoners
 

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Well, that's good news, the wheels of justice slowly turn. I did not know they would need a grand jury to indict in a case like this, but given that one was empaneled, this actually seems like a relatively quick result.
 

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This TYT video is from three weeks ago and the content has probably already been mentioned in this thread, but it still shocked me.

Apparently Congressman Gosar met with the J6 organizers and, before they'd even committed a crime, promised them Presidential pardons. This violates several laws. Other Congressmen committed similar crimes. Let's get some more indictments!
 

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The Wyoming Republican Party has purged Liz Cheney.

Wyoming GOP votes to no longer recognize Rep. Cheney as a Republican | 307 Politics | trib.com
Wyoming Republican leaders voted this weekend to no longer recognize Rep. Liz Cheney as a member of their party.

The resolution, which does not strip Cheney of any tangible power, passed the Wyoming GOP Central Committee by a vote of 31-29 during a Saturday meeting Buffalo.

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“Previously mentioned in the resolution of censure, Representative Liz Cheney ‘cast her vote in favor of impeachment without any quantifiable evidence of High Crimes or Misdemeanors,” the resolution stated. “As to date, no quantifiable and or undisputed evidence has been offered Representative Liz Cheney to defend her questionable decision.”

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“To further her own personal political agenda, Representative Liz Cheney has not only caused massive disruption, distraction and division within the House Republican Conference, but has also willingly, happily, and energetically joined forced with and proudly pledged allegiance to democrat Speaker of the House Pelosi, as a means of serving her own personal interests while ignoring the interests, needs and expectations of Wyoming Republicans,” the resolution passed stated.
Last February, she was censured by that party for voting to impeach Trump: Liz Cheney becomes latest House Republican to be censured by state party for her vote to impeach Trump - CNNPolitics, and last May, she was removed from the party's leadership: Liz Cheney Removed From GOP Post Over Trump Criticism : NPR.

Liz Cheney is still in her committees, however. There are some House Republicans talking about removing from their committees the fellow Republicans who voted for the recent infrastructure bill, and such a purge may not stop there.

From her side,
“It’s laughable to suggest Liz is anything but a committed conservative Republican,” said Jeremy Adler, a Cheney spokesperson. “She is bound by her oath to the Constitution. Sadly, a portion of the Wyoming GOP leadership has abandoned that fundamental principle, and instead allowed themselves to be held hostage to the lies of a dangerous and irrational man.”

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“The president incited the mob,” she said in an television interview that day. “The president addressed the mob. He lit the flame.”
As to her voting record, govtrack.us gives her an ideology score of 0.68 in 2020 and 2018. That makes her moderately liberal by Republican standards and moderately conservative overall.
During Trump’s term, Cheney voted with him on policy 93% of the time. That’s a higher percentage than Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, New York Rep. Elise Stefanik, Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar, Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz and a number of other lawmakers who are seen as staunch Trump allies. Cheney has also received solid grades from prominent conservative groups, including the Susan B. Anthony List and the National Rifle Association.
 

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She's just as conservative as ever, but they are kind of right to kick her out because she's not a Trumpist, and the GOP has turned into a Trump cult.
 

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Trump allies pressed Defense Department to help overturn election, new book says - ABC News
From journalist Jonathan Karl's book "Betrayal".
In "Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show," scheduled to be released today, Karl reports that former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Trump attorney Sidney Powell tried to enlist a Pentagon official to help overturn the election.

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"Flynn told him to cut his trip short and get back to the United States immediately because there were big things about to happen," according to the book. Karl writes that Flynn told Cohen, "We need you," and told the DoD official that "there was going to be an epic showdown over the election results."

Flynn, according to the book, urged Cohen that "he needed to get orders signed, that ballots needed to be seized, and that extraordinary measures needed to be taken to stop Democrats from stealing the election."
That's Ezra Cohen.
"Betrayal" also reports that Sydney Powell, Flynn's former lawyer who was then advising President Trump, called Cohen shortly after the Flynn conversation and tried to enlist his help with one the most far-fetched claims about the election, involving then-CIA Director Gina Haspel.

"Gina Haspel has been hurt and taken into custody in Germany," Powell told Cohen, pushing a false conspiracy theory that had been gaining steam among QAnon followers, according to the book. "You need to launch a special operations mission to get her," Powell said.
That was a QAnon conspiracy theory, and the CIA had to issue a statement that GH is alive and well.
 

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On the other side,
Mnuchin, Pompeo mulled plan to remove Trump after Jan. 6: book | TheHill
ABC News’s Jonathan Karl writes in “Betrayal” that then-Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin spoke with other Cabinet members including then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about attempting to remove Trump from office through the 25th Amendment, according to excerpts published by MSNBC.

Karl, during an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” early Monday, said Pompeo “asked for a legal analysis of the 25th Amendment and how it would work,” but the idea was “quickly jettisoned” the next day once the officials recognized how difficult the path for such an effort would be, namely as then-Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and then-Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao were resigning.

“It would not be quick enough and it would be subject to legal challenges,” Karl said on MSNBC.

“But in the hours after the riot, there were high-level conversations about this,” he emphasized.

Karl attributes the reporting to “a source familiar with the conversations” and told the MSNBC hosts that his story is “rock solid.”
Jonathan Karl: Trump Showed Bitterness Toward Rep. McCarthy In Interview - YouTube

I wish that they were more successful, because it would have gotten Trump out of office under very unfavorable conditions.
 

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New January 6 committee subpoenas issued for 5 Trump allies including Roger Stone and Alex Jones - CNNPolitics
Also subpoenaed by the committee Monday: Dustin Stockton and Jennifer Lawrence, key players in the "Stop the Steal" movement after the election, who the committee noted are engaged to each other.

Stockton was one of the administrators of a "Stop the Steal" Facebook group that amassed hundreds of thousands of followers before it was shut down by the social media company on November 5 -- the day after it was launched. According to the committee's subpoena letter, Stockton helped organize a series of rallies after the November 2020 election up to the rally held at the Ellipse in Washington, DC, on January 6, aimed at supporting then-President Trump and his claims of election fraud.

Taylor Budowich, who is currently the primary political spokesperson for the former President and serves as communications director for the Save America PAC, was the final individual subpoenaed Monday.

Alex Jones, Roger Stone and other Trump allies subpoenaed by House Jan. 6 panel : NPR
With this latest wave, the panel has now issued 40 subpoenas in its probe.

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All the new witnesses were told they are due to turn over documents and testify by mid-December.

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So far, the committee has met with about 200 unnamed witnesses, who spoke voluntarily, received 25,000 pages of documents and has gotten more than 200 tips through a hotline, said California Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a member of the panel.
 

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So far, the committee has met with about 200 unnamed witnesses, who spoke voluntarily, received 25,000 pages of documents and has gotten more than 200 tips through a hotline, said California Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a member of the panel.
We only ever hear about the ones who run and hide, not the 200 who came forward.
 

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So far, the committee has met with about 200 unnamed witnesses, who spoke voluntarily, received 25,000 pages of documents and has gotten more than 200 tips through a hotline, said California Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a member of the panel.
We only ever hear about the ones who run and hide, not the 200 who came forward.
Steve Bannon is an important figure in the MAGA movement, and that made big news out of him not going along.

House Jan. 6 committee issues subpoenas to Proud Boys, Oath Keepers - The Washington Post
Proud Boys leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, Oath Keeper founder and leader Stewart Rhodes, and 1st Amendment Praetorian co-founder Robert Patrick Lewis are the targets of the inquiry’s latest tranche of subpoenas. The committee is seeking depositions and documents from the three, along with requests for documents and records from the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.
Enrique Tarrio was an activist in the group Latinos for Trump.
 

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Capitol riot suspect’s court hearing turns to potential criminal charge for Trump - POLITICO
Could former President Donald Trump be charged with a crime for urging then-Vice President Mike Pence not to certify the electoral vote tally?

That appeared to be the thrust of a question U.S. District Court Judge Carl Nichols posed on Monday at a court hearing for one of the hundreds of Americans charged in the Capitol riot.

Ilhan Omar on Twitter: "👀 Its just tourist Republicans supporting law enforcement at the Capitol on January 6th." / Twitter
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Scott MacFarlane on Twitter: "Video court exhibit released by US Justice Dept shows what happens as police tried to protect a closing door at US Capitol complex on Jan 6 ===> (vid link)" / Twitter
showing some cops trying to block some attackers with a closing door, but failing. The door is a metal-slat door that comes down from the ceiling, and that automatically goes back up if it senses that it cannot continue. The attackers first blocked it with a garbage can, the pushed it up, then stuck it open with a flag.
 

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Mitch & Kyrsten =🪛🚮 on Twitter: "@MacFarlaneNews Sinema was absent for vote over investigation. She lied as to why. (pic link)" / Twitter - with a picture of the QAnon Shaman and some other attackers in a room in the Congress building, with a picture of KS in a pink beret overlaid. She wears pink-frame glasses and a ring that says "Fuck Off".

I fact-checked it, and while KS was indeed absent, I can't find anything on how she supposedly lied about her absence from a vote for something she called "critical".
 

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Judge orders two lawyers who filed suit challenging 2020 election to pay hefty fees: ‘They need to take responsibility’ - The Washington Post
A federal judge has ordered two Colorado lawyers who filed a lawsuit late last year challenging the 2020 election results to pay nearly $187,000 to defray the legal fees of groups they sued, arguing that the hefty penalty was proper to deter others from using frivolous suits to undermine the democratic system.

“As officers of the Court, these attorneys have a higher duty and calling that requires meaningful investigation before prematurely repeating in court pleadings unverified and uninvestigated defamatory rumors that strike at the heart of our democratic system and were used by others to foment a violent insurrection that threatened our system of government,” Magistrate Judge N. Reid Neureiter wrote.

“They are experienced lawyers who should have known better. They need to take responsibility for their misconduct,” he wrote.
Federal judge orders lawyers who brought election lawsuit to pay Dominion, Facebook, others - The Washington Post

These lawyers thus join Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell: Giuliani's Law License Is Suspended Over Trump Election Lies - The New York Times and Judge sanctions Sidney Powell and other attorneys who filed lawsuit challenging 2020 election - ABC News - August 25
A federal judge in Michigan has ordered sanctions against former Trump attorney Sidney Powell, attorney Lin Wood, and several other lawyers who brought a legal challenge seeking to overturn President Joe Biden's 2020 election victory in the state.

In her ruling Wednesday, Judge Linda Parker described the suit as an "historic and profound abuse of the judicial process."

"It is one thing to take on the charge of vindicating rights associated with an allegedly fraudulent election," Parker wrote in a scathing 110-page filing. "It is another to take on the charge of deceiving a federal court and the American people into believing that rights were infringed, without regard to whether any laws or rights were in fact violated. This is what happened here."

Parker ordered the group of nine attorneys involved in the lawsuit to pay all legal fees incurred by the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit's attorneys, and mandated that they take legal education courses.
Good to see these lawyers getting it for filing lawsuits with those baseless claims of huge electoral fraud.
 

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Judge orders two lawyers who filed suit challenging 2020 election to pay hefty fees: ‘They need to take responsibility’ - The Washington Post
A federal judge has ordered two Colorado lawyers who filed a lawsuit late last year challenging the 2020 election results to pay nearly $187,000 to defray the legal fees of groups they sued, arguing that the hefty penalty was proper to deter others from using frivolous suits to undermine the democratic system.

“As officers of the Court, these attorneys have a higher duty and calling that requires meaningful investigation before prematurely repeating in court pleadings unverified and uninvestigated defamatory rumors that strike at the heart of our democratic system and were used by others to foment a violent insurrection that threatened our system of government,” Magistrate Judge N. Reid Neureiter wrote.

“They are experienced lawyers who should have known better. They need to take responsibility for their misconduct,” he wrote.
Federal judge orders lawyers who brought election lawsuit to pay Dominion, Facebook, others - The Washington Post

These lawyers thus join Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell: Giuliani's Law License Is Suspended Over Trump Election Lies - The New York Times and Judge sanctions Sidney Powell and other attorneys who filed lawsuit challenging 2020 election - ABC News - August 25
A federal judge in Michigan has ordered sanctions against former Trump attorney Sidney Powell, attorney Lin Wood, and several other lawyers who brought a legal challenge seeking to overturn President Joe Biden's 2020 election victory in the state.

In her ruling Wednesday, Judge Linda Parker described the suit as an "historic and profound abuse of the judicial process."

"It is one thing to take on the charge of vindicating rights associated with an allegedly fraudulent election," Parker wrote in a scathing 110-page filing. "It is another to take on the charge of deceiving a federal court and the American people into believing that rights were infringed, without regard to whether any laws or rights were in fact violated. This is what happened here."

Parker ordered the group of nine attorneys involved in the lawsuit to pay all legal fees incurred by the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit's attorneys, and mandated that they take legal education courses.
Good to see these lawyers getting it for filing lawsuits with those baseless claims of huge electoral fraud.
But these are are small potatoes as far as fines and wider influence go.
 

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Traditionally corporations and the GOP have been allies, while government institutions (at the state level especially) have often been allied with Democrats. But this is reversing as Rubio and other Trump-lickers take over the GOP. David Brooks makes this point beginning at about 5:30 in this interview. "The right doesn't control the media, doesn't control universities, doesn't control corporations. We only control the state." Thus the fervor to imitate dictators and use state power to influence media, schools, etc. Exactly the opposite of GOP traditions.

Brooks also describes the Trump-dominated GOP as interested only in culture wars, not in policy.
 

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"The right doesn't control the media, doesn't control universities, doesn't control corporations. We only control the state." -- even though right-wingers claim to deplore all-controlling governments, and even though they claim to love capitalism.
 

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Fuck this shit.

I'm pretty sure there are dozens if not hundreds of bathrooms in the congress building and the congressionsional office building. Choose a few and replace the locks so they lock from the outside. Put a cot, a blanket, and a pillow (preferably a a shitty MyPillow pillow), and lock these folks up immediately on contempt charges.
 

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Eastman takes the Fifth with Jan. 6 committee - POLITICO
"The attorney, who helped former President Donald Trump contest the 2020 election, asserted his right against self-incrimination in a Dec. 1 letter to the Capitol riot panel."

He can still be ordered to appear and raise his right hand, no?
Shouldn't they do that, on television, so the public can hear "might tend to incriminate me" over and over?
 

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A former D.C. National Guard official is accusing two senior Army leaders of lying to Congress and participating in a secret attempt to rewrite the history of the military's response to the Capitol riot.

In a 36-page memo, Col. Earl Matthews, who held high-level National Security Council and Pentagon roles during the Trump administration, slams the Pentagon's inspector general for what he calls an error-riddled report that protects a top Army official who argued against sending the National Guard to the Capitol on Jan. 6, delaying the insurrection response for hours.

Matthews' memo, sent to the Jan. 6 select committee this month and obtained by POLITICO, includes detailed recollections of the insurrection response as it calls two Army generals — Gen. Charles Flynn, who served as deputy chief of staff for operations on Jan. 6, and Lt. Gen. Walter Piatt, the director of Army staff — “absolute and unmitigated liars” for their characterization of the events of that day. Matthews has never publicly discussed the chaos of the Capitol siege.
Matthews' memo levels major accusations: that Flynn and Piatt lied to Congress about their response to pleas for the D.C. Guard to quickly be deployed on Jan. 6; that the Pentagon inspector general’s November report on Army leadership’s response to the attack was “replete with factual inaccuracies”; and that the Army has created its own closely held revisionist document about the Capitol riot that’s “worthy of the best Stalinist or North Korea propagandist.”

The memo follows Walker’s own public call for the inspector general to retract its detailed report on the events of Jan. 6, as first reported by The Washington Post. Walker told the Post he objected to specific allegations by the Pentagon watchdog that Matthews’ memo also criticizes, calling the inspector general’s report “inaccurate” and “sloppy work.”
Reached for comment on Matthews’ memo, Walker, the former head of the D.C. Guard, said the report speaks for itself and that he had nothing further to add. A Jan. 6 committee spokesperson declined to comment.
 

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Trump allies work to place supporters in key election posts across the country, spurring fears about future vote challenges - The Washington Post
In Michigan, local GOP leaders have sought to reshape election canvassing boards by appointing members who expressed sympathy for former president Donald Trump’s false claims that the 2020 vote was rigged.

In two Pennsylvania communities, candidates who embraced election fraud allegations won races this month to become local voting judges and inspectors.
And in Colorado, 2020 doubters are urging their followers on conservative social media platforms to apply for jobs in election offices.
A year after local and state election officials came under immense pressure from Trump to subvert the results of the 2020 White House race, he and his supporters are pushing an ambitious plan to place Trump loyalists in key positions across the administration of U.S. elections.

The effort goes far beyond the former president’s public broadsides against well-known Republican state officials who certified President Biden’s victory, such as Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey. Citing the need to make elections more secure, Trump allies are also seeking to replace officials across the nation, including volunteer poll watchers, paid precinct judges, elected county clerks and state attorneys general, according to state and local officials, as well as rally speeches, social media posts and campaign appearances by those seeking the positions.


Who or what will safeguard our constitutional order is not apparent today. It is not even apparent who will try. Democrats, big and small D, are not behaving as if they believe the threat is real. Some of them, including President Joe Biden, have taken passing rhetorical notice, but their attention wanders. They are making a grievous mistake.

“The democratic emergency is already here,” Richard L. Hasen, a professor of law and political science at UC Irvine, told me in late October. Hasen prides himself on a judicious temperament. Only a year ago he was cautioning me against hyperbole. Now he speaks matter-of-factly about the death of our body politic. “We face a serious risk that American democracy as we know it will come to an end in 2024,” he said, “but urgent action is not happening.”

For more than a year now, with tacit and explicit support from their party’s national leaders, state Republican operatives have been building an apparatus of election theft. Elected officials in Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states have studied Donald Trump’s crusade to overturn the 2020 election. They have noted the points of failure and have taken concrete steps to avoid failure next time. Some of them have rewritten statutes to seize partisan control of decisions about which ballots to count and which to discard, which results to certify and which to reject. They are driving out or stripping power from election officials who refused to go along with the plot last November, aiming to replace them with exponents of the Big Lie. They are fine-tuning a legal argument that purports to allow state legislators to override the choice of the voters.

So depressing, this is happening all out in the open and doesn't seem like shit is being done about it. A little is being done for voting access, but the bigger threat is from local officials overturning an election result.
 
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