NY Gov Andrew Cuomo scandals

[lpetrich]

New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo is now suffering from some scandals.

Andrew Cuomo: The story keeps getting worse about nursing homes and Covid-19 - CNNPolitics

Amid the swirling controversy over whether New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration knowingly undercounted deaths among nursing home residents during the height of the Covid-19 pandemic in the state, a top aide for the governor apologized to Democratic lawmakers, saying the administration "froze" when initially asked by state legislators back in August about the issue.

Which is a stunning admission. And seems to jibe with a report released last month by New York Attorney General Letitia James that suggested that Cuomo's administration undercounted deaths among nursing home residents by as much as 50%.

Coverup.

'Cuomo is an abuser': NY Assemblyman Ron Kim alleges governor threatened him - ABC News
About AC's top aide Melissa DeRosa,

Assemblyman Kim of Flushing, Queens, who was on the call with DeRosa, told the New York Post the following day that DeRosa's remarks seemed to create the appearance that the administration was "trying to dodge having any incriminating evidence that might put the administration or the [Health Department] in further trouble with the Department of Justice."

He appeared on "The View" on Friday, Feb. 19, 2021.

"I was about to bathe my three kids when I received a call from the governor. He spent ten minutes threatening my career and ordering me to issue a statement that would be used to cover for the state secretary," Kim said.

Kim said he expected to celebrate the Lunar New Year with his family that weekend, but added that was interrupted by "many calls" and "many other attempts" made by Cuomo and his staff to get in contact with him. "I realized that [Cuomo]'s continuing to ask me to cover up for [DeRosa]," he said. "At that point I needed to get an attorney, which I did over the weekend."

"Cuomo is an abuser," Kim alleged. "He has abused his powers. Abusers are cowards."

Bullying.

 

[lpetrich]

He is now suffering from more scandals.

Lindsey Boylan:

Gov. Andrew Cuomo Accused Of Sexual Harassment By Former Adviser : NPR
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My story of working with Governor Cuomo | by Lindsey Boylan | Feb, 2021 | Medium
“Let’s play strip poker.”

She ran for Congress last year, running against incumbent Jerry Nadler for NY-10.

Charlotte Bennett:

Second ex-aide accuses Andrew Cuomo of sexual harassment | Andrew Cuomo | The Guardian
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Second Former Aide Accuses Cuomo of Sexual Harassment - The New York Times

Ms. Bennett, 25, said the most unsettling episode occurred on June 5, when she was alone with Mr. Cuomo in his State Capitol office. In a series of interviews this week, she said the governor had asked her numerous questions about her personal life, including whether she thought age made a difference in romantic relationships, and had said that he was open to relationships with women in their 20s — comments she interpreted as clear overtures to a sexual relationship.

Anna Ruch:

Andrew Cuomo sexual harassment allegations: 3rd accuser comes forward against NY Governor, calls for resignation grow - ABC7 New York
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Cuomo Accused of Unwanted Advance at a Wedding: ‘Can I Kiss You?’ - The New York Times

The governor was working the room after toasting the newlyweds, and when he came upon Ms. Ruch, now 33, she thanked him for his kind words about her friends. But what happened next instantly unsettled her: Mr. Cuomo put his hand on Ms. Ruch’s bare lower back, she said in an interview on Monday.

When she removed his hand with her own, Ms. Ruch recalled, the governor remarked that she seemed “aggressive” and placed his hands on her cheeks. He asked if he could kiss her, loudly enough for a friend standing nearby to hear. Ms. Ruch was bewildered by the entreaty, she said, and pulled away as the governor drew closer.

Ana Liss and Karen Hinton:

Andrew Cuomo investigation: 5 women now accuse governor of sex harassment, calls grow for resignation by New York lawmakers - ABC7 New York

One new allegation is from Ana Liss, who says the governor questioned her about her intimate life and kissed her on the hand.

Liss has reportedly said that at first, she thought it was harmless flirtation, but later found it inappropriate.

The other new accuser is Karen Hinton, who worked as a press aide for Cuomo and later served as Mayor Bill de Blasio's press secretary, is the latest accuser.

"Attacking the accuser is the classic playbook of powerful men trying to protect themselves," Hinton said.

Hinton told The Washington Post back in 2000 when she was a press aide for the governor at 'HUD,' he summoned her to a hotel room, pulled her towards him, and held her.

 

[lpetrich]

Here is one prominent Democrat who doesn't think that Democrats are automatically off the hook for misbehavior.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Lindsey Boylan and Charlotte Bennett’s detailed accounts of sexual harassment by Gov. Cuomo are extremely serious and painful to read.

There must be an independent investigation - not one led by an individual selected by the Governor, but by the office of the Attorney General." / Twitter

 

[TomC]

"Cuomo is an abuser," Kim alleged. "He has abused his powers. Abusers are cowards."

Something that makes me very angry is what I'm seeing here. People bitching about state and local officials fumbling on global pandemic response without mentioning the obvious source of the disaster, President Trump.

While people like Cuomo and Newsom are struggling to get ahead of chaos in the medical establishment and the social and economic fallout of the national disaster, Trump found it politically expedient to pretend that the "Chinese virus" was no big deal. A hoax by Democrats. The country would be open an back to normal by Easter(2011). Trump actively worked against sensible and well considered plans to reduce the disaster, because it reflected so poorly on his administration.

Maybe Kim said other stuff not quoted. But unless he acknowledged the source of Cuomo's problems, he's totally full of shit.
Tom

 

[Gun Nut]

All women's accounts of victimhood should be listened to.. but not automatically believed, of course. Like everything else.
I heard one accuser on a CNN interview where she was given all the opportunity in the world to express her feelings about a specific incident that she is calling harassment.
Both my wife and I listened, considered, and then both responded, "so the fuck what???". He asked her if she know someone that might want to go out with him. She said no. He said ok.

 

[LoAmmo]

"Cuomo is an abuser," Kim alleged. "He has abused his powers. Abusers are cowards."

Something that makes me very angry is what I'm seeing here. People bitching about state and local officials fumbling on global pandemic response without mentioning the obvious source of the disaster, President Trump.

While people like Cuomo and Newsom are struggling to get ahead of chaos in the medical establishment and the social and economic fallout of the national disaster, Trump found it politically expedient to pretend that the "Chinese virus" was no big deal. A hoax by Democrats. The country would be open an back to normal by Easter(2011). Trump actively worked against sensible and well considered plans to reduce the disaster, because it reflected so poorly on his administration.

Maybe Kim said other stuff not quoted. But unless he acknowledged the source of Cuomo's problems, he's totally full of shit.
Tom

Seconded.

I know it smacks somewhat of "what-about-ism," and at some level, it probably is. But one of the many costs of Trump's four-year shit show is that, intentionally or not, he re-set the boundaries, the societal expectations we have of our top officials. And if we are to not be hypocrites, we need to acknowledge if it wasn't worthy of a national outrage when Trump did 'it," (whatever "it" is), then guess what--it's not worthy of national outrage when a lefty does it. NOTHING Trump did during his one-term clown show stuck to him.

What's good for the goose being good for the gander, I'm not about to start looking for the fainting couch over Gov. Cuomo deliberately telling untruths about the COVID numbers OR metaphorically "grabbing her by the pussy."

If it was a nothingburger then, it's a nothingburger now. Sorry, Righties. Your team invented those rules.

 

[J842P]

"Cuomo is an abuser," Kim alleged. "He has abused his powers. Abusers are cowards."

Something that makes me very angry is what I'm seeing here. People bitching about state and local officials fumbling on global pandemic response without mentioning the obvious source of the disaster, President Trump.

While people like Cuomo and Newsom are struggling to get ahead of chaos in the medical establishment and the social and economic fallout of the national disaster, Trump found it politically expedient to pretend that the "Chinese virus" was no big deal. A hoax by Democrats. The country would be open an back to normal by Easter(2011). Trump actively worked against sensible and well considered plans to reduce the disaster, because it reflected so poorly on his administration.

Maybe Kim said other stuff not quoted. But unless he acknowledged the source of Cuomo's problems, he's totally full of shit.
Tom

Seconded.

I know it smacks somewhat of "what-about-ism," and at some level, it probably is. But one of the many costs of Trump's four-year shit show is that, intentionally or not, he re-set the boundaries, the societal expectations we have of our top officials. And if we are to not be hypocrites, we need to acknowledge if it wasn't worthy of a national outrage when Trump did 'it," (whatever "it" is), then guess what--it's not worthy of national outrage when a lefty does it. NOTHING Trump did during his one-term clown show stuck to him.

What's good for the goose being good for the gander, I'm not about to start looking for the fainting couch over Gov. Cuomo deliberately telling untruths about the COVID numbers OR metaphorically "grabbing her by the pussy."

If it was a nothingburger then, it's a nothingburger now. Sorry, Righties. Your team invented those rules.

That's some pretty shitty rationalizing there, I've got to say.

 

[TV and credit cards]

"Cuomo is an abuser," Kim alleged. "He has abused his powers. Abusers are cowards."

Something that makes me very angry is what I'm seeing here. People bitching about state and local officials fumbling on global pandemic response without mentioning the obvious source of the disaster, President Trump.

While people like Cuomo and Newsom are struggling to get ahead of chaos in the medical establishment and the social and economic fallout of the national disaster, Trump found it politically expedient to pretend that the "Chinese virus" was no big deal. A hoax by Democrats. The country would be open an back to normal by Easter(2011). Trump actively worked against sensible and well considered plans to reduce the disaster, because it reflected so poorly on his administration.

Maybe Kim said other stuff not quoted. But unless he acknowledged the source of Cuomo's problems, he's totally full of shit.
Tom

Seconded.

I know it smacks somewhat of "what-about-ism," and at some level, it probably is. But one of the many costs of Trump's four-year shit show is that, intentionally or not, he re-set the boundaries, the societal expectations we have of our top officials. And if we are to not be hypocrites, we need to acknowledge if it wasn't worthy of a national outrage when Trump did 'it," (whatever "it" is), then guess what--it's not worthy of national outrage when a lefty does it. NOTHING Trump did during his one-term clown show stuck to him.

What's good for the goose being good for the gander, I'm not about to start looking for the fainting couch over Gov. Cuomo deliberately telling untruths about the COVID numbers OR metaphorically "grabbing her by the pussy."

If it was a nothingburger then, it's a nothingburger now. Sorry, Righties. Your team invented those rules.

What's good for the right is good for the left? What's good for Trump is good for Cuomo? Who loses in all this?
This is not the standard I'll lower myself to. Nor is it the behavior I expect of those we put in positions of power. If they cannot handle it and conduct themselves appropriately, they should be shitcanned.

 

[TomC]

That's some pretty shitty rationalizing there, I've got to say.

Where do you see rationalizing? I see observations.

The bottom line is this. A national problem like C19 is totally in the purview of the president. The buck stops on his desk. Lying to the public, then blaming state and local officials for the ugly outcome, is quite Trump-like. Predictable. But that's what happened. Trump was the problem, not Cuomo.
Tok

 

[J842P]

That's some pretty shitty rationalizing there, I've got to say.

Where do you see rationalizing? I see observations.

Right here:

What's good for the goose being good for the gander, I'm not about to start looking for the fainting couch over Gov. Cuomo deliberately telling untruths about the COVID numbers OR metaphorically "grabbing her by the pussy."

If it was a nothingburger then, it's a nothingburger now. Sorry, Righties. Your team invented those rules.

Those aren't facts, that is someone rationalizing their decision not to hold a governor accountable for lying, corruption, and incompetence.

The bottom line is this. A national problem like C19 is totally in the purview of the president. The buck stops on his desk. Lying to the public, then blaming state and local officials for the ugly outcome, is quite Trump-like. Predictable. But that's what happened. Trump was the problem, not Cuomo.
Tok

Nonsense. Governors have a lot of responsibilities and powers on their own, and in cases like New York with Cuomo, where his actions -- not Trumps -- resulted in bad outcomes, then it is only good and proper that he be held accountable. That Trump was an incompetent moron does nothing to excuse Cuomo.

 

[Gun Nut]

... in cases like New York with Cuomo, where his actions -- not Trumps -- resulted in bad outcomes, then it is only good and proper that he be held accountable. That Trump was an incompetent moron does nothing to excuse Cuomo.

No, it should not. But when those that hold public office that have the responsibility for oversight excuse the behavior from Trump, then the precedent is established that its just fine for a public official to use their power to harass women, or that the question of harassment is moot. That being the case, a big "so what" to everyone else's accusers too... well, if it's a public official being accused, that is.

 

[LoAmmo]

That's some pretty shitty rationalizing there, I've got to say.

It probably is. I know one thing: four years ago I myself would have recognized it as such; and probably called it out as such on a forum such as this one. But here's another cost of the Trump years, of what they did to America, and to Americans:

I don't fucking give a shit. I don't care if YOU like my reasoning; I don't even particularly care if I myself like my reasoning--and, truth be told, I don't. The phrase "two wrongs don't make a right," although a hackneyed cliche, contains more than a kernel of truth in it. And it's a phrase that I myself have used many many times in equivalency arguments.

I'm well aware that this isn't third grade, and bleating "but HE started it" isn't going to be found compelling--certainly not by the people on the other side of the argument. But by the same token, I'm just coming off of four LONG years of Trump taking a sledgehammer to every "norm" of conduct by a high government official and getting a complete and total free pass for it. And, so, now, rightly or wrongly, I kinda don't want to hear it when, for instance, the Right starts gnashing their teeth and pulling their hair over "intemperate tweets" by one of Biden's cabinet picks.

"Intemperate tweets?" Are you for fucking REAL? Those became a problem, right around noontime on Jan 20, did they?

I'm just saying that there are consequences from letting Trump run wild, unchecked, for four long years. And this is one of them.
The team that sent a mob into the Capitol Building to undo a free and fair election doesn't get to lecture me on how I should act, from here on in.
Anyone who doesn't like it can "Fuck their Feelings," or "Get over it, snowflake."

After all...
fair is fair.

 

[J842P]

That's some pretty shitty rationalizing there, I've got to say.

It probably is. I know one thing: four years ago I myself would have recognized it as such; and probably called it out as such on a forum such as this one. But here's another cost of the Trump years, of what they did to America, and to Americans:

I don't fucking give a shit. I don't care if YOU like my reasoning; I don't even particularly care if I myself like my reasoning--and, truth be told, I don't. The phrase "two wrongs don't make a right," although a hackneyed cliche, contains more than a kernel of truth in it. And it's a phrase that I myself have used many many times in equivalency arguments.

I'm well aware that this isn't third grade, and bleating "but HE started it" isn't going to be found compelling--certainly not by the people on the other side of the argument. But by the same token, I'm just coming off of four LONG years of Trump taking a sledgehammer to every "norm" of conduct by a high government official and getting a complete and total free pass for it. And, so, now, rightly or wrongly, I kinda don't want to hear it when, for instance, the Right starts gnashing their teeth and pulling their hair over "intemperate tweets" by one of Biden's cabinet picks.

"Intemperate tweets?" Are you for fucking REAL? Those became a problem, right around noontime on Jan 20, did they?

I'm just saying that there are consequences from letting Trump run wild, unchecked, for four long years. And this is one of them.
The team that sent a mob into the Capitol Building to undo a free and fair election doesn't get to lecture me on how I should act, from here on in.
Anyone who doesn't like it can "Fuck their Feelings," or "Get over it, snowflake."

After all...
fair is fair.

This is pathetic. Get a fucking grip.

 

[Derec]

Here is one prominent Democrat who doesn't think that Democrats are automatically off the hook for misbehavior.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter:

Of course it's her! But then again, she has been against Cuomo anyway because he is not far left enough. She even tried to primary him by backing that C-list actress' challenge against him in 2018.

 

[Derec]

All women's accounts of victimhood should be listened to.. but not automatically believed, of course. Like everything else.
I heard one accuser on a CNN interview where she was given all the opportunity in the world to express her feelings about a specific incident that she is calling harassment.
Both my wife and I listened, considered, and then both responded, "so the fuck what???". He asked her if she know someone that might want to go out with him. She said no. He said ok.

Yeah. The meaning of "sexual harassment" has been stretched to absolute meaningless in these post-#MeToo days.

 

[Jarhyn]

Right here:

What's good for the goose being good for the gander, I'm not about to start looking for the fainting couch over Gov. Cuomo deliberately telling untruths about the COVID numbers OR metaphorically "grabbing her by the pussy."

If it was a nothingburger then, it's a nothingburger now. Sorry, Righties. Your team invented those rules.

Those aren't facts, that is someone rationalizing their decision not to hold a governor accountable for lying, corruption, and incompetence.

The bottom line is this. A national problem like C19 is totally in the purview of the president. The buck stops on his desk. Lying to the public, then blaming state and local officials for the ugly outcome, is quite Trump-like. Predictable. But that's what happened. Trump was the problem, not Cuomo.
Tok

Nonsense. Governors have a lot of responsibilities and powers on their own, and in cases like New York with Cuomo, where his actions -- not Trumps -- resulted in bad outcomes, then it is only good and proper that he be held accountable. That Trump was an incompetent moron does nothing to excuse Cuomo.

Then call for holding Trump accountable for doing this thing. Demand a third impeachment. Demand hearings.

Demand that the bad outcomes, all half a million of them, be laid at Trump's feet.

Sauce. For. The. Goose. I'll wait right here on asking to pillory Cuomo while you get right on that.

If you can't be arsed to bust out the pitchforks for Trump on the altar of lying about COVID, I think it's entirely valid to ignore you calling for pitchforks for anyone.

All you have to do for it is say the words.

 

[J842P]

Right here:

Those aren't facts, that is someone rationalizing their decision not to hold a governor accountable for lying, corruption, and incompetence.




Nonsense. Governors have a lot of responsibilities and powers on their own, and in cases like New York with Cuomo, where his actions -- not Trumps -- resulted in bad outcomes, then it is only good and proper that he be held accountable. That Trump was an incompetent moron does nothing to excuse Cuomo.

Then call for holding Trump accountable for doing this thing. Demand a third impeachment. Demand hearings.

Demand that the bad outcomes, all half a million of them, be laid at Trump's feet.

Sauce. For. The. Goose. I'll wait right here on asking to pillory Cuomo while you get right on that.

If you can't be arsed to bust out the pitchforks for Trump on the altar of lying about COVID, I think it's entirely valid to ignore you calling for pitchforks for anyone.

All you have to do for it is say the words.

No, it isn't fucking valid, despite the fact that I've been calling out Trump's mendacity since he originally pushed the Obama birther conspiracy, and I've definitely criticized Trump's handling of the crisis. None of that has any bearing on Cuomo. All I have to say for you is stop acting like a psychopath. But I know you can't.

 

[J842P]

Jesus fucking Christ. Even if I was some MagaHat, what could you possibly have to gain by defending Cuomo!?. It is pure, groveling spite. It does nothing to help you, it is idiocy. You lose in every case. We are all fucking doomed because of people like you.

 

[Rhea]

While I was pleased (suprised, but pleased) with Cuomo’s handling on the Pandemic, the sexual accusations are rather on-brand for him, and believable.

Of all the things he’s done, the act of lying about the location of the covid deaths is in a context of combatting threats from Trump are the least of what makes me a barely luke-warm supporter. Still worth investigating though.


He’s always been a back-room deal kind of leader, and a lot of New Yorkers dislike him for that. The leany and the heavy act are part of his brand. That he used it on women is not a surprise and is very much worthy of investigating and wanting him out of office if true. And the likelihod of truth is pretty high with five different people saying the same kinds of things. It’s wrong and harmful to have such an atmosphere at a workplace.

Mayne New Yorkers have been only waiting for a better candiate. I expect there will be one next time. Last time it was a hollywood activist. That wasn’t a better candidate. This tie there will be someone with experience to run a place like NY.

Meanwhile, if these allegations pick up steam, then Cuomo won’t have enough support to stay long. He did not go out of his way in his last two terms to make people think he’s an honorable guy. And that will hurt him, because these allegation fit right in with his public personality.

I mentioned I’m a barely luke-warm supporter. So are a lot of other New Yorkers and Cuomo ignores that at his peril. Add credible sexual harassment allegations and that luke-warm turns cold. I only “supported” him because he was better than Nixon, not because he was “good.”

 

[J842P]

While I was pleased (suprised, but pleased) with Cuomo’s handling on the Pandemic, the sexual accusations are rather on-brand for him, and believable.

Of all the things he’s done, the act of lying about the location of the covid deaths is in a context of combatting threats from Trump are the least of what makes me a barely luke-warm supporter. Still worth investigating though.


He’s always been a back-room deal kind of leader, and a lot of New Yorkers dislike him for that. The leany and the heavy act are part of his brand. That he used it on women is not a surprise and is very much worthy of investigating and wanting him out of office if true. And the likelihod of truth is pretty high with five different people saying the same kinds of things. It’s wrong and harmful to have such an atmosphere at a workplace.

Mayne New Yorkers have been only waiting for a better candiate. I expect there will be one next time. Last time it was a hollywood activist. That wasn’t a better candidate. This tie there will be someone with experience to run a place like NY.

Meanwhile, if these allegations pick up steam, then Cuomo won’t have enough support to stay long. He did not go out of his way in his last two terms to make people think he’s an honorable guy. And that will hurt him, because these allegation fit right in with his public personality.

I mentioned I’m a barely luke-warm supporter. So are a lot of other New Yorkers and Cuomo ignores that at his peril. Add credible sexual harassment allegations and that luke-warm turns cold. I only “supported” him because he was better than Nixon, not because he was “good.”

Yeah, to be frank, Cuomo was always known as a bully in NY political circles, very Trumpian in that respect. He's just not as bombastic, and not a doofus like Trump.