Obama's Ongoing Foreign Policy Failure - Putin's Bitch

[Will Wiley]

And this^ is why everyone should be perfectly fine with the U.S. limiting their role in the region and letting Russia increase theirs. Nobody can tell who the hell is bombing who. No one can state with certainty who's supplying who. No one has any realistic strategy for getting the situation under control.

Have at it Russia.

I think we can with certainty that the US has been supplying weapons to insurgents opposed to Assad.

Certainly the US has no strategy except to destabilise. Their lack of strategy is amazing.

Putin’s Lightning War in Syria

This is extraordinary. Ask yourself this, dear reader: How can our political and military leaders watch Moscow deploy its troops, warplanes and military hardware to a theater where the US is carrying out major operations and have absolutely no plan of how deal with those forces if they are sent into battle?

If you are convinced, as I am, that we are governed by numbskulls, you will certainly find confirmation of that fact in recent events.

Has Putin thought about that or has he merely blundered ahead impulsively like US leaders are so apt to do? Here’s what he said on September 30:

“We naturally have no intention of getting deeply entangled in this conflict. We will act strictly in accordance with our set mission. First, we will support the Syrian army only in its lawful fight against terrorist groups. Second, our support will be limited to airstrikes and will not involve ground operations. Third, our support will have a limited timeframe and will continue only while the Syrian army conducts its anti-terrorist offensive.”

Bingo. In other words, he’s going to bomb these jokers into oblivion and let Quds brigade and Hezbollah mop up afterwards. There will be no Russian boots-on-the-ground. The Russian airforce will get precise intelligence on ISIS locations from Syrian agents on the battlefield which will minimize civilian casualties and limit damage to critical infrastructure. It will also make mincemeat out of anyone on the receiving end of the bombardment. Does anyone seriously believe that ISIS and the disparate rabble of “moderate” throat-slitters that receive CIA funding are going to be able to withstand this impending onslaught?

No way. Putin’s going to cut through these guys like a tornado through a trailer park. Yes, ISIS has had some success against the bedraggled Iraqi and Syrian armies. But now they’re up-against the A Team where they are clearly out of their league. Rolling up these cutthroats is going to take a lot less time than anyone figured.

Russian bombers are already destroying ammo dumps, fuel depots, heavy military hardware, command posts, anything that enhances ISIS’s ability to wage war. The new anti-terror coalition is going to cut supply lines and hang the jihadis out to dry. And the whole operation is going to be wrapped up before Uncle Sam even get’s his boots laced. This is from Iran’s Press TV:

“A senior member of Russia’s parliament says an ongoing air campaign by Moscow against militants operating in Syria is going to intensify. Alexei Pushkov, who serves as the chairman of the Committee for International Affairs at the Russian State Duma, said Friday that Moscow will be intensifying its attacks against the militants in Syria while studying the risks associated with an extensive operation.

“There is always a risk of being bogged down, but in Moscow, we are talking about an operation of three to four months,” Alexei Pushkov said, Reuters reported.

Russia started to launch coordinated airstrikes on the positions of militants in Syria on Wednesday. The move came shortly after members of the Russian upper house of the parliament, the Federation Council, authorized the operations in Syria.” (Press TV)

There’s not going to be any pussyfooting around. Putin’s going to go straight for the jugular and then head for the exits.

 

[Axulus]

That's just total bullshit.
Biggest supplier of weapons to ISIS was Iraqi army which got it from US.

ISIS uses captured weapons in Syria also, and it stands to reason that in Syria the majority of the weapons acquired this way are from Syrian sources. So even if we think of "supplying weapons to someone else and then having them being taken by ISIS" is supplyign ISIS, then Assad is still responsible for at least the weapons in Syria. And if you look at how thigns escalated, it was really the Syrian weapons and bases therein that gave ISIS the boost it needed in Iraq to make advances that allowed it to capture American weapons en masse.

Let's not forget that the Russians have supplied them with weapons and munitions in the past, some of which was captured by ISIS when they took over certain areas in Syria.

 

[Axulus]

I think we can with certainty that the US has been supplying weapons to insurgents opposed to Assad.

Certainly the US has no strategy except to destabilise. Their lack of strategy is amazing.

Putin’s Lightning War in Syria

This is extraordinary. Ask yourself this, dear reader: How can our political and military leaders watch Moscow deploy its troops, warplanes and military hardware to a theater where the US is carrying out major operations and have absolutely no plan of how deal with those forces if they are sent into battle?

If you are convinced, as I am, that we are governed by numbskulls, you will certainly find confirmation of that fact in recent events.

Has Putin thought about that or has he merely blundered ahead impulsively like US leaders are so apt to do? Here’s what he said on September 30:

“We naturally have no intention of getting deeply entangled in this conflict. We will act strictly in accordance with our set mission. First, we will support the Syrian army only in its lawful fight against terrorist groups. Second, our support will be limited to airstrikes and will not involve ground operations. Third, our support will have a limited timeframe and will continue only while the Syrian army conducts its anti-terrorist offensive.”

Bingo. In other words, he’s going to bomb these jokers into oblivion and let Quds brigade and Hezbollah mop up afterwards. There will be no Russian boots-on-the-ground. The Russian airforce will get precise intelligence on ISIS locations from Syrian agents on the battlefield which will minimize civilian casualties and limit damage to critical infrastructure. It will also make mincemeat out of anyone on the receiving end of the bombardment. Does anyone seriously believe that ISIS and the disparate rabble of “moderate” throat-slitters that receive CIA funding are going to be able to withstand this impending onslaught?

No way. Putin’s going to cut through these guys like a tornado through a trailer park. Yes, ISIS has had some success against the bedraggled Iraqi and Syrian armies. But now they’re up-against the A Team where they are clearly out of their league. Rolling up these cutthroats is going to take a lot less time than anyone figured.

Russian bombers are already destroying ammo dumps, fuel depots, heavy military hardware, command posts, anything that enhances ISIS’s ability to wage war. The new anti-terror coalition is going to cut supply lines and hang the jihadis out to dry. And the whole operation is going to be wrapped up before Uncle Sam even get’s his boots laced. This is from Iran’s Press TV:

“A senior member of Russia’s parliament says an ongoing air campaign by Moscow against militants operating in Syria is going to intensify. Alexei Pushkov, who serves as the chairman of the Committee for International Affairs at the Russian State Duma, said Friday that Moscow will be intensifying its attacks against the militants in Syria while studying the risks associated with an extensive operation.

“There is always a risk of being bogged down, but in Moscow, we are talking about an operation of three to four months,” Alexei Pushkov said, Reuters reported.

Russia started to launch coordinated airstrikes on the positions of militants in Syria on Wednesday. The move came shortly after members of the Russian upper house of the parliament, the Federation Council, authorized the operations in Syria.” (Press TV)

There’s not going to be any pussyfooting around. Putin’s going to go straight for the jugular and then head for the exits.

And if Assad retakes any of these cities and massacres everyone in them for daring to stand up and oppose him, as some believe he may do, Russia will have the proud achievement of supporting a mass murderer.

 

[untermensche]

And if Assad retakes any of these cities and massacres everyone in them for daring to stand up and oppose him, as some believe he may do, Russia will have the proud achievement of supporting a mass murderer.

Ah. The crime of supporting criminals who haven't actually committed the crimes yet.

The bottom line is, the US can't bomb the ME to hell and start all kinds of trouble then cry because Russia wants to do the same.

 

[Harry Bosch]

And if Assad retakes any of these cities and massacres everyone in them for daring to stand up and oppose him, as some believe he may do, Russia will have the proud achievement of supporting a mass murderer.

Ah. The crime of supporting criminals who haven't actually committed the crimes yet.

The bottom line is, the US can't bomb the ME to hell and start all kinds of trouble then cry because Russia wants to do the same.

So Assad barrel bombing civilian neighborhoods isn't a crime? Secondly, just because the US is screwing up the ME doesn't give an excuse for Russia to do the same.

 

[Nexus]

Spare us the outrage about Assad killing his own people. Abraham Lincoln killed his own people. When citizens rebel from their government it fights and kills to keep its territory.

 

[Axulus]

Spare us the outrage about Assad killing his own people. Abraham Lincoln killed his own people. When citizens rebel from their government it fights and kills to keep its territory.

Assad collectively punished the civilians with things like chemical weapons that achieved no valid military goal, among other things.

Navi Pillay, the UN's human rights chief, said a commission of inquiry into human rights violations in Syria "has produced massive evidence … [of] very serious crimes, war crimes, crimes against humanity" and that "the evidence indicates responsibility at the highest level of government, including the head of state."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-war-crimes-bashar-al-assad-un-investigators

Documenting Evil: Inside Assad’s Hospitals of Horror
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Since then, the images that Caesar secreted out of Syria have received wide circulation, having been touted by Western officials and others as clear evidence of war crimes. The pictures, most of them taken in Syrian military hospitals, show corpses photographed at close range—one at a time as well as in small groupings. Virtually all of the bodies—thousands of them—betray signs of torture: gouged eyes; mangled genitals; bruises and dried blood from beatings; acid and electric burns; emaciation; and marks from strangulation. Caesar took a number of these pictures, working with roughly a dozen other photographers assigned to the same military-police unit.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/06/assad-war-crimes-syria-torture-caesar-hospital

 

[Harry Bosch]

Spare us the outrage about Assad killing his own people. Abraham Lincoln killed his own people. When citizens rebel from their government it fights and kills to keep its territory.

That doesn't make it right.

 

[barbos]

Assad collectively punished the civilians with things like chemical weapons that achieved no valid military goal, among other things.

There is absolutely no evidence of that.

 

[TSwizzle]

So Assad barrel bombing civilian neighborhoods isn't a crime?

Not really, no. They weren't "civilian" neighborhoods, just neighborhoods. And what difference does it make what type of bomb it is anyway ?

Secondly, just because the US is screwing up the ME doesn't give an excuse for Russia to do the same.

Russia is a long time ally of Assad.

And if France and Britain are dropping bombs, why can't Russia ? Or anybody else ?

 

[Nexus]

That doesn't make it right.

There is no right or wrong when it comes to rebellions or revolutions only success or failure.

 

[Will Wiley]

Assad collectively punished the civilians with things like chemical weapons that achieved no valid military goal, among other things.

There is absolutely no evidence of that.

You are just nitpicking now!

 

[barbos]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/05/w...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Looks like US is afraid Assad with the help or Russian bombing might actually defeat ISIS.
There are reports ISIS fighters leaving Syria because of Russian (not US) bombing.
US just can't let anybody defeat ISIS other than themselves.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

And sadly, we have to hear Kerry and Obama yammer on with empty and laughable warnings to the Russians.

Stupid Obama!

What we need instead is a no-nonsense, conservative President like Donald Trump who after getting tough questions from Putin will go on Fox News to complain and then file for bankruptcy. And if we can't have that, we can at least dream of George Bush choking on a pretzel and throwing up on Putin's shoe and then invading the wrong country.