# Oh, Matty. Have you been a naughty boy?

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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Matt Gaetz Is Said to Face Justice Dept. Inquiry Over Sex With an Underage Girl
An inquiry into the Florida congressman was opened in the final months of the Trump administration, people briefed on it said.

Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.

Fun fact: In 2017, Rep. Matt Gaetz was the sole member of the US House to vote no on the anti-human trafficking bill.

#### Ford

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Judge Roy Moore be like "so, Matty...you like 'em a little older, huh?"

#### Don2 (Don1 Revised)

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I am very surprised by this.

I thought he liked under-aged boys...

...based on his living arrangement.

#### Elixir

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Matty is innocent until proven guilty.
He denies it.
Vehemently denies it all.

"I demand the DOJ immediately release the tapes, made at their direction, which implicate their former colleague in crimes against me based on false allegations,"
-Matty

And your child sex trafficking buddy Joel Greenberg?
'Splain that to us, pleeeze.

#### Patooka

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Is this the right's response to cultural marxist's War On Christmas? A War On Parody? Because they're fucking winning.

#### Jimmy Higgins

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What will his ward, adopted son, part-time family (?) member think of this? It’ll crush him to know his, whatever the fuck he is, is fucking underaged teens and paying for their travel so he can fuck them.

#### Patooka

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What will his ward, adopted son, part-time family (?) member think of this? It’ll crush him to know his, whatever the fuck he is, is fucking underaged teens and paying for their travel so he can fuck them.

Probably thinking, "better them than me, now I can get some sleep"

EDIT: Yikes

#### TV and credit cards

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“Gaetz told Fox that the former DOJ employee going after him was David McGee, now a lawyer at Beggs & Lane.

In an interview with The Daily Beast late Tuesday night, McGee said any reports of extortion involving him or his firm were “completely, totally false.”

“This is a blatant attempt to distract from the fact that Matt Gaetz is apparently about to be indicted for sex trafficking underage girls,” McGee said.”

#### Don2 (Don1 Revised)

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I blame his parents.

#### Patooka

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I've gotta say, Tucker Carlson looks more confused than normal in this totally 100% convincing interview:

Gaetz should have turned up drunk, it probably would have ended up better if he did.

#### Jimmy Higgins

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"Tell us what the truth is... from your perspective."

#### Loren Pechtel

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An odd thing occurred to me. At 40ish seconds he mentions that his father (a rich guy) received a text blackmailing him over "sex trafficking". That is an odd thing to be blackmailed over. Usually it is more of a 'you were caught screwing a minor, give me money'. If he was blackmailed over "sex trafficking", firstly, he must be guilty as all hell because sex trafficking requires certain aspects in a checklist... which isn't as obvious and would require the blackmailer to have documentation, not merely photos of him entering a hotel room with a minor. Secondly, it would also imply that it was an insider who was blackmailing him, as again, this is complicated and would need documentation which would require some level of investigation.

That said, what power would a former investigator have in this? Because if the investigation is on-going, a former investigator can't stop it.

Except these days "sex trafficking" is way overused, we don't know what it really means.

#### Don2 (Don1 Revised)

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An odd thing occurred to me. At 40ish seconds he mentions that his father (a rich guy) received a text blackmailing him over "sex trafficking". That is an odd thing to be blackmailed over. Usually it is more of a 'you were caught screwing a minor, give me money'. If he was blackmailed over "sex trafficking", firstly, he must be guilty as all hell because sex trafficking requires certain aspects in a checklist... which isn't as obvious and would require the blackmailer to have documentation, not merely photos of him entering a hotel room with a minor. Secondly, it would also imply that it was an insider who was blackmailing him, as again, this is complicated and would need documentation which would require some level of investigation.

That said, what power would a former investigator have in this? Because if the investigation is on-going, a former investigator can't stop it.

It initially struck me as a scam artist sending threatening messages. A real investigator would text Gaetz. His father being older has more public records and phone number accessed more readily....
His father is much much wealthier. $25 million a lot of money that Matt Gaetz doesn't have, but his Father does. Wow. I bet that elitist got the fake chin for his birthday one year. [TWEET]https://twitter.com/maison21/status/1204327351108030464[/TWEET] #### Jimmy Higgins ##### Contributor An odd thing occurred to me. At 40ish seconds he mentions that his father (a rich guy) received a text blackmailing him over "sex trafficking". That is an odd thing to be blackmailed over. Usually it is more of a 'you were caught screwing a minor, give me money'. If he was blackmailed over "sex trafficking", firstly, he must be guilty as all hell because sex trafficking requires certain aspects in a checklist... which isn't as obvious and would require the blackmailer to have documentation, not merely photos of him entering a hotel room with a minor. Secondly, it would also imply that it was an insider who was blackmailing him, as again, this is complicated and would need documentation which would require some level of investigation. That said, what power would a former investigator have in this? Because if the investigation is on-going, a former investigator can't stop it. Except these days "sex trafficking" is way overused, we don't know what it really means. We know it means he was blackmailed by someone who knew there was more going on than just sex with a minor. Otherwise, he'd been blackmailed for 'sex with a minor'. That$25 million price tag seems crazy though. Gaetz's family is wealthy, but still $25 million?! #### Jimmy Higgins ##### Contributor His father is much much wealthier.$25 million a lot of money that Matt Gaetz doesn't have, but his Father does.

Wow. I bet that elitist got the fake chin for his birthday one year.

It's possible.

#### Gospel

##### Unify Africa
An odd thing occurred to me. At 40ish seconds he mentions that his father (a rich guy) received a text blackmailing him over "sex trafficking". That is an odd thing to be blackmailed over. Usually it is more of a 'you were caught screwing a minor, give me money'. If he was blackmailed over "sex trafficking", firstly, he must be guilty as all hell because sex trafficking requires certain aspects in a checklist... which isn't as obvious and would require the blackmailer to have documentation, not merely photos of him entering a hotel room with a minor. Secondly, it would also imply that it was an insider who was blackmailing him, as again, this is complicated and would need documentation which would require some level of investigation.

That said, what power would a former investigator have in this? Because if the investigation is on-going, a former investigator can't stop it.

Except these days "sex trafficking" is way overused, we don't know what it really means.

These days? Jack Johnson just turned over in his grave to laugh in your direction.

#### Ford

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In the Tucker Carlson interview, Matt said that "providing for flights, and...um...hotel rooms for people that you're dating who are of legal age is not a crime..."

This seems to be an admission by Gaetz that he was dating the girl in question. Did he have sex with her? Did he fly her across state lines to somewhere that the age of consent is under 18?

That's apparently going to be settled in court, but at the end of the day, a 36 year old man was "dating" a 17 year old child. And he admits it.

Party of "family values" folks.

#### Metaphor

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I am very surprised by this.

I thought he liked under-aged boys...

...based on his living arrangement.

That's a rather vulgar insinuation from you. Of course, I expect nothing less.

#### Patooka

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I am very surprised by this.

I thought he liked under-aged boys...

...based on his living arrangement.

That's a rather vulgar insinuation from you. Of course, I expect nothing less.

You might need a bit of context:

[tweet]1273644503656730631[/tweet]

#### Metaphor

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I am very surprised by this.

I thought he liked under-aged boys...

...based on his living arrangement.

That's a rather vulgar insinuation from you. Of course, I expect nothing less.

You might need a bit of context:

[tweet]1273644503656730631[/tweet]

I understood the reference. I simply think baseless accusations of pederasty are uncouth, even if they are about someone you dislike.

#### Bronzeage

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"Tell us what the truth is... from your perspective."

FYI, People usually don't go asking for $25 million to prevent lies from being told. They'd demand that sort of payoff to keep a truth hidden. Sounds like he was blackmailed after it was disclosed that he was putting his penis into underaged vagina(s). Ding ding ding. We have a winner. That's the problem with Gaetz's story. If he never had an underage girlfriend, nobody is going to demand a ridiculous amount like$25million, an oddly specific number. If he did have a 17 year old Lolita, it's still way more money than can be securely transferred and laundered. His version of the story, Gaetzgate1.0, simply doesn't pass the sniff test.

Now that it's out in the daylight, and if there is such a young woman, there's only several thousand people who have met her and have suddenly realized she is the subject of this story. She has friends who have just done the arithmetic and one(maybe many more) will be talking to reporters about Mystery Girl and her rich boyfriend. It's either going to fizzle, or melt down. It's only a matter of time before the woman appears in the flesh with her lawyer beside her.

It's a job for Michael Avenetti, who is out of prison at the moment, but he's not in the business anymore. He faces sentencing in a couple months after being convicted of trying to extort money from Nike, threatening to go public about payments to high school athletes. Strangely enough, the amount in question was $25million. Maybe that's the industry standard. #### barbos ##### Contributor Last edited by a moderator: #### TV and credit cards ##### Veteran Member That's fantastic. I think, extortion, if any, is coming from Matt Gaetz' spurned lover, Joel Greenberg. I've said it before. I'll say it again. Never trust a guy who uses too much hair product. #### Jimmy Higgins ##### Contributor article said: Kent also requested the Gaetz family’s help returning Levinson in exchange for giving Matt Gaetz credit for the operation and promising a presidential pardon for unnamed legal issues. Umm... so is this a bogus letter from some third party scammer? How is Gaetz supposed to get someone released from Iran? How is a$25 million loan going to do anything?

That tale reads more like a Nigerian Prince scam than a shakedown. President Biden is going to give a guy that had sex with an underaged girl(s) a pardon... forget that we are talking about Gaetz. This tale is getting bizarre.

#### Elixir

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Never trust a guy who uses too much hair product.

So that degree from Trump University really is TOTALLY useless?

#### Don2 (Don1 Revised)

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I am very surprised by this.

I thought he liked under-aged boys...

...based on his living arrangement.

That's a rather vulgar insinuation from you. Of course, I expect nothing less.

You might need a bit of context:

[tweet]1273644503656730631[/tweet]

Also, somewhere in his younger years Nestor was a congressional page at Gaetz's recommendation....

#### Swammerdami

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Watch this Rachel Maddow excerpt. It's mainly about Joel Greenberg, the criminal Tax Callector of Seminole County, whose bizarre criminal misdeeds seem like a caricature even by GOP standards. The last minute or two connect to Gaetz, a good friend of Greenberg who has also been charged with underage sex trafficking, one of many crimes Greenberg is charged with.

#### Shake

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I've gotta say, Tucker Carlson looks more confused than normal in this totally 100% convincing interview:

Gaetz should have turned up drunk, it probably would have ended up better if he did.

#### Ford

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You might need a bit of context:

[tweet]1273644503656730631[/tweet]

Also, somewhere in his younger years Nestor was a congressional page at Gaetz's recommendation....

And correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't "coming here from Cuba (legally, of course)" mean you just arrived from Cuba on a boat?

##### Loony Running The Asylum
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Matt Gaetz showed nude pics of women he said he slept with to GOP members of Congress: report

On Thursday, CNN reported new salacious details about the behavior of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), who is separately under a Department of Justice sex trafficking investigation.

"Sources say Gaetz gained a reputation in Congress over his relationships with women, and even showed fellow lawmakers some nude photos of women he said he slept with," said anchor Wolf Blitzer. "Lauren Fox is on this part of the story. What are you learning about these photos?"

"We should be very clear from the top, this is a separate issue than the DOJ investigation that is ongoing right now," said Fox. "When Matt Gaetz was a new member of Congress, he earned a reputation quickly of being a close ally of former President Trump's. He liked to be in the limelight of the media. He also, according to multiple sources CNN spoke with, behind the scenes likes to show his colleagues photos and brag about sexual exploits he had with women."

Yup, definitely a trumper.

#### Elixir

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Watch this Rachel Maddow excerpt. It's mainly about Joel Greenberg, the criminal Tax Callector of Seminole County, whose bizarre criminal misdeeds seem like a caricature even by GOP standards. The last minute or two connect to Gaetz, a good friend of Greenberg who has also been charged with underage sex trafficking, one of many crimes Greenberg is charged with.

And Trump has had dirt on both of them this whole time.

#### Angry Floof

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Gaetzgate makes me so happy. (*Except for the part where he ***aLLegEdLy*** took advantage of an underage girl.)

This could turn out to be way better than the dick stomping I've been wishing for for him. The story only broke yesterday and Gaetz has already gone full Giuliani. That is one desperate man.

#### Angry Floof

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Seriously, though, the title of this thread should be Gaetzgate.

#### Ford

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Seriously, though, the title of this thread should be Gaetzgate.

I'm a fan of #PizzaGaetz

The entire Q conspiracy is based on the idea that Democrats are part of a secret cabal of sex traffickers, but it turns out to be just a little bit of projection.

#### Angry Floof

##### Tricksy Leftits
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Seriously, though, the title of this thread should be Gaetzgate.

I'm a fan of #PizzaGaetz
Brilliant! Stealing.

The entire Q conspiracy is based on the idea that Democrats are part of a secret cabal of sex traffickers, but it turns out to be just a little bit of projection.
Projection is the Republican party's middle name.

#### Jimmy Higgins

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#JailGaetz?

Could start a new porn video line called Barely Illegal. Tucker Carlson raves, “I have no idea what you are talking about.”

#### J842P

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I've said it before. I'll say it again. Never trust a guy who uses too much hair product.

I have to admit, everything about Gaetz screams conman/crook to me.

#### Bronzeage

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I've said it before. I'll say it again. Never trust a guy who uses too much hair product.

I have to admit, everything about Gaetz screams conman/crook to me.

In my neighborhood, Matt Gaetz would be what is known as an insufferable prick. He is Fitzgerald rich, which is to say,
...they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

Gaetz has lived a life where he could always get out of whatever trouble he caused, or was in, after making glib explanations. This left him believing it was his quick wit that did the trick, when all along it was just the money. A lot of politicians, if not most, become rich in office. It's always amusing to watch a wealthy person enter politics. The fortunate ones never get elected. Those who do enter office quickly discover they are in a very different world. They go from an environment where everything is tailored to their needs and desires, to a place filled with people who do not have any great inclination to cooperate.

This was Donald Trump's greatest shock. He had never been forced to deal with people who didn't want to do it his way. No matter how wealthy a person maybe, their world is rather small. The number of people they must see everyday is a fairly small group, and they get to choose who gets in the group. They go from ruler of their universe to a guy with a credit score or 400, sitting across the desk from a car dealer's finance manager, in the blink of an eye. Nothing has prepared them for an work space where money no longer has the power it once wielded.

As I said, the fortunate ones never get elected.

#### Elixir

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In my neighborhood, Matt Gaetz would be what is known as an insufferable prick. He is Fitzgerald rich, which is to say,
...they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

Gaetz has lived a life where he could always get out of whatever trouble he caused, or was in, after making glib explanations. This left him believing it was his quick wit that did the trick, when all along it was just the money. A lot of politicians, if not most, become rich in office. It's always amusing to watch a wealthy person enter politics. The fortunate ones never get elected. Those who do enter office quickly discover they are in a very different world. They go from an environment where everything is tailored to their needs and desires, to a place filled with people who do not have any great inclination to cooperate.

This was Donald Trump's greatest shock. He had never been forced to deal with people who didn't want to do it his way. No matter how wealthy a person maybe, their world is rather small. The number of people they must see everyday is a fairly small group, and they get to choose who gets in the group. They go from ruler of their universe to a guy with a credit score or 400, sitting across the desk from a car dealer's finance manager, in the blink of an eye. Nothing has prepared them for an work space where money no longer has the power it once wielded.

As I said, the fortunate ones never get elected.

Insufferable prick - exactly.
I got in exactly ONE fight in HS, and it could have been his clone. I was caught violating the "Senior Lawn" - a sacrosanct area set aside for seniors. I was a sophomore. About eight of them restrained me and I started screaming that they were cowards and I'd take on ONE of them. They all laughed and told me to pick one. I picked Matt Gaetz' doppleganger. "What rules?" (they were starting to collectively fear repercussions). "Boxing!" I said.
So they formed a ring and said go. It didn't last long - I wasn't as big as he was but I was much more coordinated and twice as fast, and within a minute or so I landed a fist on his nose. He started crying at the sight of his own blood, which frankly scared me too. I made some noise about not wanting to hurt anyone, promised to stay off the senior lawn and they let me go. For the rest of the year, that insufferable prick plotted against me in all matters large and small. I left the school at the end of that year.
Watching blustering Matt Gaetz lead a gang of Republitard Congresscritters down the halls of the Capitol to break into a closed hearing brought back that memory in vivid color. I'd dearly love to punch him in the nose, despite detesting violence.