Ohio: black people have to work to receive food stamps, white people don't

[Underseer]

https://twitter.com/AdamWhite720/status/1049365221146615810?s=19

Low-income Ohioans in these 26 counties are not required to work to receive food stamps. They are 97% white.

95% of Ohio's African-American families live outside of these counties, where they must work to receive food stamps. Read more in my latest paper: https://t.co/UdA1EoTUMI https://t.co/tfl2it3l3B

This is achieved by implementing different policies in different counties. Predominantly white counties get one set of policies, predominantly black counties get another.

So this is what conservatives and libertarians mean by "pull yourself up by the bootstraps."

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

One note is that the western counties in Ohio are just as white as the ones in SE Ohio. So there is at least a little indication that it isn't merely a race thing. I think the problem becomes this whole issue of why don't blacks just get jobs in the cities. One could say the same thing to those living in counties with no jobs. Why don't they move to the city and get work?

In addition, if you are below the poverty level... you need help. It seems peculiar that inner city poverty would be dealt with differently by a SNAP system than rural poverty. I can understand exempting Urban poverty families if there was a program designed to assist that in Urban areas, but that isn't the case. This is more about Republicans stealing more money from blue counties. Make the blue counties pay for more, because someone has to help, and the red counties pay for less. Poor whittle libertarian counties don't have no work, they need a hand up.

Personally, everyone in poverty needs assistance.

 

[BH]

A lot of people, when this is pointed out to them, will assume the whites had bad luck and will be disciplined enough to get back on their feet. The blacks, well, they are lazy and probably just making more kids. This is of course wrong thinking on so many levels, but that is the mindset.

 

[Mumbles]

One note is that the western counties in Ohio are just as white as the ones in SE Ohio. So there is at least a little indication that it isn't merely a race thing. I think the problem becomes this whole issue of why don't blacks just get jobs in the cities. One could say the same thing to those living in counties with no jobs. Why don't they move to the city and get work?

One could say that the poorer white families whose schools, swimming pools, and so forth were shut down in response to desegregation were also harmed, so there was little evidence of racism there either.

In reality, quite a few people devoted to white supremacism will gladly harm themselves just so long as they think black people will be hurt more, and the stereotype of black Americans as "lazy and taking" has a very long history that would be used to justify this in any event.

 

[Never]

I'm in one of the counties without work requirements. There are plenty of help wanted signs around. I'd venture that one of many reasons is that the young people ARE moving to the cities for better jobs. We've lost 2 employees in the last month who moved to Columbus.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

This is more about Republicans stealing more money from blue counties. Make the blue counties pay for more, because someone has to help, and the red counties pay for less. Poor whittle libertarian counties don't have no work, they need a hand up.

Yup. When you see the Republicans do something racial, look again because it's probably actually something political.

 

[laughing dog]

This is more about Republicans stealing more money from blue counties. Make the blue counties pay for more, because someone has to help, and the red counties pay for less. Poor whittle libertarian counties don't have no work, they need a hand up.

Yup. When you see the Republicans do something racial, look again because it's probably actually something political.

You mean like punishing areas that don't vote Republican (like black areas)?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This is more about Republicans stealing more money from blue counties. Make the blue counties pay for more, because someone has to help, and the red counties pay for less. Poor whittle libertarian counties don't have no work, they need a hand up.

Yup. When you see the Republicans do something racial, look again because it's probably actually something political.

You mean like punishing areas that don't vote Republican (like black areas)?

I don't think it is race here. It is about taxes. One thing that sucks about living in a blue county is that your tax money goes to pay for services in undertaxed, underdeveloped (it is the 21st century folks!) red counties.

The GOP tried to get away with not building the new replacement I-90 bridge in Cleveland so they could build the bypass in empty SE Ohio. That didn't go over well. Kasich considered leasing the turnpike that Northern and blue county Ohio dollars paid for.

So what we see in the OP is another attempt to screw over blue counties, under fund them, give money to red counties with little tax base, and then wonder why blue counties are strapped for cash. Kasich has done a great job of lowering the budget by given less money to municipalities. Oddly enough, blue counties and cities have had to raise taxes to make up the difference.

Blue counties... we generate the tax revenue that makes red counties capable of surviving... to vote for the red party. So yeah, blacks live in these counties in decent sized numbers, but it is less a racial thing, and more a partisan thing. Why fund counties that don't vote for you?

 

[laughing dog]

You mean like punishing areas that don't vote Republican (like black areas)?

I don't think it is race here. It is about taxes. One thing that sucks about living in a blue county is that your tax money goes to pay for services in undertaxed, underdeveloped (it is the 21st century folks!) red counties.

The GOP tried to get away with not building the new replacement I-90 bridge in Cleveland so they could build the bypass in empty SE Ohio. That didn't go over well. Kasich considered leasing the turnpike that Northern and blue county Ohio dollars paid for.

So what we see in the OP is another attempt to screw over blue counties, under fund them, give money to red counties with little tax base, and then wonder why blue counties are strapped for cash. Kasich has done a great job of lowering the budget by given less money to municipalities. Oddly enough, blue counties and cities have had to raise taxes to make up the difference.

Blue counties... we generate the tax revenue that makes red counties capable of surviving... to vote for the red party. So yeah, blacks live in these counties in decent sized numbers, but it is less a racial thing, and more a partisan thing. Why fund counties that don't vote for you?

Do you really think that if those areas were white, that the same outcome would prevail given who is in political power? This is just like the Ohio GOP effort to reduce illegal voting that just happens to have a disparate effect on blacks. Yeah, one can pull out the "alternative explanations", but the history and recent history in Ohio point to race playing a real factor here.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

This is more about Republicans stealing more money from blue counties. Make the blue counties pay for more, because someone has to help, and the red counties pay for less. Poor whittle libertarian counties don't have no work, they need a hand up.

Yup. When you see the Republicans do something racial, look again because it's probably actually something political.

Given our country's history, I think it's facile to think that politics and race aren't intertwined in most cases.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You mean like punishing areas that don't vote Republican (like black areas)?

I don't think it is race here. It is about taxes. One thing that sucks about living in a blue county is that your tax money goes to pay for services in undertaxed, underdeveloped (it is the 21st century folks!) red counties.

The GOP tried to get away with not building the new replacement I-90 bridge in Cleveland so they could build the bypass in empty SE Ohio. That didn't go over well. Kasich considered leasing the turnpike that Northern and blue county Ohio dollars paid for.

So what we see in the OP is another attempt to screw over blue counties, under fund them, give money to red counties with little tax base, and then wonder why blue counties are strapped for cash. Kasich has done a great job of lowering the budget by given less money to municipalities. Oddly enough, blue counties and cities have had to raise taxes to make up the difference.

Blue counties... we generate the tax revenue that makes red counties capable of surviving... to vote for the red party. So yeah, blacks live in these counties in decent sized numbers, but it is less a racial thing, and more a partisan thing. Why fund counties that don't vote for you?

Do you really think that if those areas were white, that the same outcome would prevail given who is in political power?

If this were just racial, the western counties would be exempt too as those are mostly white.

This is just like the Ohio GOP effort to reduce illegal voting that just happens to have a disparate effect on blacks. Yeah, one can pull out the "alternative explanations", but the history and recent history in Ohio point to race playing a real factor here.

I don't think the two are as paralleled in that way. Yes, the voter roll culling using methods that hurt blacks more is attempting to reduce the number of Democrat voters, much in like how the policy is aimed at diverting funds from Democrat voting counties to Republican voting counties.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

This is more about Republicans stealing more money from blue counties. Make the blue counties pay for more, because someone has to help, and the red counties pay for less. Poor whittle libertarian counties don't have no work, they need a hand up.

Yup. When you see the Republicans do something racial, look again because it's probably actually something political.

You mean like punishing areas that don't vote Republican (like black areas)?

Yup. The important aspect is that they voted D, not that they're black.

The effect appears racial but it's really about politics.

 

[laughing dog]

You mean like punishing areas that don't vote Republican (like black areas)?

Yup. The important aspect is that they voted D, not that they're black.

The effect appears racial but it's really about politics.

Riiight, because it is not possible that it could be a bit of both.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You mean like punishing areas that don't vote Republican (like black areas)?

Yup. The important aspect is that they voted D, not that they're black.

The effect appears racial but it's really about politics.

Riiight, because it is not possible that it could be a bit of both.

Look at the facts: Whites that voted D got the same treatment as blacks that did. That says it's politics.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Riiight, because it is not possible that it could be a bit of both.

Look at the facts: Whites that voted D got the same treatment as blacks that did. That says it's politics.

Here are some relevant numbers.

Summit County (Akron)

Whites make up about 60% of those in poverty in Summit County

SE Ohio

Washington County (excluded)

Whites make up about 100% of those in poverty in Washington County

Lawrence County (excluded)

Whites make up over 90% of those in poverty

Western Ohio

Champaign County (not excluded)

Whites make up most of those in poverty, but the poverty rate is quite a bit lower than in SE Ohio.

 

[laughing dog]

Riiight, because it is not possible that it could be a bit of both.

Look at the facts: Whites that voted D got the same treatment as blacks that did. That says it's politics.

I did look at the facts - I actually read the cited facts in the OP. Apparently, you did not.

 

[Derec]

https://twitter.com/AdamWhite720/status/1049365221146615810?s=19

Low-income Ohioans in these 26 counties are not required to work to receive food stamps. They are 97% white.

95% of Ohio's African-American families live outside of these counties, where they must work to receive food stamps. Read more in my latest paper: https://t.co/UdA1EoTUMI https://t.co/tfl2it3l3B

This is achieved by implementing different policies in different counties. Predominantly white counties get one set of policies, predominantly black counties get another.

So this is what conservatives and libertarians mean by "pull yourself up by the bootstraps."

The title of your post is writing checks that its body cannot cash. It's not that black people have to work for food stamps and whites do not, it's that people in certain counties, regardless of their color, have work requirements while others do not. The criterion is the unemployment rate in these counties, which seems like a race-invariant determinant of whether work requirement should be implemented or not.

Also, a tweet as a source? Really?