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NYPD Officer Still Has A Job Even Though He Was Caught Planting Weed On Two Innocent Men In Separate Incidents

A New York Police Department officer is still roaming the streets after his own body camera captured him apparently planting drugs on innocent people twice.

The Intercept acquired bodycam footage reportedly showing Officer Kyle Erickson planting weed in a car during a traffic stop on March 13, 2018.

In the video, Erickson and his partner Elmer Pastran, pulled over a Staten Island driver who supposedly had a broken taillight. Jason Serrano was sitting in the passenger seat during the stop. Serrano, who was recovering from a stab wound, and his female friend were ordered out of the car after the cops claimed they smelled weed.

“I can barely move,” Serrano said while lifting his shirt to show the wound on his abdomen.

“I don’t want to see that,” Erickson replied. When the officers demanded to search Serrano’s jacket he kept protesting — “There’s nothing in there. … I’m not getting searched for no reason” — and was eventually thrown to the ground despite the severity of his injuries.

“They said I was resisting arrest, but I just didn’t want to hit the floor, the only thing I was thinking about was [the injury],” Serrano told The Intercept. “I still had staples in me. … I couldn’t even stand up straight.”

Erickson searched the car while Pastran searched Serrano’s jacket, but they didn’t find anything.

“We gotta find something,” Erickson can be heard telling Pastran.

Erickson goes back to the car for another search. His body camera shows him fiddling with a small nugget of weed before he dropped it in a cup holder. The officers exchange a look and asked each other if they were “good,” as if they were confirming Erickson’s plant.
 

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Details Surrounding MCPD Involved Shooting in Potomac Still Not Released/

It has been almost three months since a Potomac man was fatally shot by a member of the Montgomery County Police Department Tactical Unit, but many details surrounding the case still have not been made public.

Since the March 12 death police-involved shooting of 21-year-old Duncan Lemp in his bedroom, the name of the officer who fired the fatal shots, autopsy results and any police camera video has yet to be released.

MCPD used a special warrant that allowed its officers to enter the home in the 12200 block of St. James Road in Potomac without first knocking.

Well, Duncan Lemp was White so no one cares.
 

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/15/...nl-lapd-officer-kneeling-neck-trnd/index.html

Just a few weeks ago, SNL Star, Jay Pharoah was minding his own business, out for a jog, when four police officers pulled their weapons on him and kneeled on his neck even though he was fully cooperating with them.

His crime? He looked like someone they were looking for.

Physical assault against citizens who are fully compliant and law abiding.
 

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First published in the 70's I believe. Might still have the issue in storage.

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A woman, Atatiana Jefferson, is home playing video games with her nephew at night, in Fort Worth, when she hears a suspicious sound in her backyard. She pulls her firearm out of her purse and looks out the window to investigate. The trespassers yell, "Put your hands up! Show me your hands!" then shoot through the window killing her. The strangers slinking around in her backyard were police officers who did not identify themselves. They had been dispatched by a concerned neighbor who saw an open door.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/20/us/atatiana-jefferson-death-officer-indicted/index.html
 
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I'll start with this one.:

NYPD Officer Still Has A Job Even Though He Was Caught Planting Weed On Two Innocent Men In Separate Incidents

A New York Police Department officer is still roaming the streets after his own body camera captured him apparently planting drugs on innocent people twice.

The Intercept acquired bodycam footage reportedly showing Officer Kyle Erickson planting weed in a car during a traffic stop on March 13, 2018.

In the video, Erickson and his partner Elmer Pastran, pulled over a Staten Island driver who supposedly had a broken taillight. Jason Serrano was sitting in the passenger seat during the stop. Serrano, who was recovering from a stab wound, and his female friend were ordered out of the car after the cops claimed they smelled weed.

“I can barely move,” Serrano said while lifting his shirt to show the wound on his abdomen.

“I don’t want to see that,” Erickson replied. When the officers demanded to search Serrano’s jacket he kept protesting — “There’s nothing in there. … I’m not getting searched for no reason” — and was eventually thrown to the ground despite the severity of his injuries.

“They said I was resisting arrest, but I just didn’t want to hit the floor, the only thing I was thinking about was [the injury],” Serrano told The Intercept. “I still had staples in me. … I couldn’t even stand up straight.”

Erickson searched the car while Pastran searched Serrano’s jacket, but they didn’t find anything.

“We gotta find something,” Erickson can be heard telling Pastran.

Erickson goes back to the car for another search. His body camera shows him fiddling with a small nugget of weed before he dropped it in a cup holder. The officers exchange a look and asked each other if they were “good,” as if they were confirming Erickson’s plant.

This makes no sense. Once a cop has been busted like this he's worthless in court.
 

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I'll start with this one.:

NYPD Officer Still Has A Job Even Though He Was Caught Planting Weed On Two Innocent Men In Separate Incidents

A New York Police Department officer is still roaming the streets after his own body camera captured him apparently planting drugs on innocent people twice.

The Intercept acquired bodycam footage reportedly showing Officer Kyle Erickson planting weed in a car during a traffic stop on March 13, 2018.

In the video, Erickson and his partner Elmer Pastran, pulled over a Staten Island driver who supposedly had a broken taillight. Jason Serrano was sitting in the passenger seat during the stop. Serrano, who was recovering from a stab wound, and his female friend were ordered out of the car after the cops claimed they smelled weed.

“I can barely move,” Serrano said while lifting his shirt to show the wound on his abdomen.

“I don’t want to see that,” Erickson replied. When the officers demanded to search Serrano’s jacket he kept protesting — “There’s nothing in there. … I’m not getting searched for no reason” — and was eventually thrown to the ground despite the severity of his injuries.

“They said I was resisting arrest, but I just didn’t want to hit the floor, the only thing I was thinking about was [the injury],” Serrano told The Intercept. “I still had staples in me. … I couldn’t even stand up straight.”

Erickson searched the car while Pastran searched Serrano’s jacket, but they didn’t find anything.

“We gotta find something,” Erickson can be heard telling Pastran.

Erickson goes back to the car for another search. His body camera shows him fiddling with a small nugget of weed before he dropped it in a cup holder. The officers exchange a look and asked each other if they were “good,” as if they were confirming Erickson’s plant.

This makes no sense. Once a cop has been busted like this he's worthless in court.
Do I see a tiny glimmer of comprehension there?

Keep going Loren, learning and growing is a little painful sometimes, but you can do it if you try hard enough.
 

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Video shows police gave CTA supervisor a choice: Drop complaint against Chicago officer or face arrest

When CTA supervisor Martesa Lee attempted to lodge a complaint against a Chicago police officer in February, she was given a choice:

Drop her grievance against the officer she accused of pushing her out of an unmarked crime scene on a Red Line platform or face possible arrest.

“Is it worth it to you?” Chicago police Sgt. William Spyker asked her.

It was.

Authorities arrested Lee in front of her co-workers and a platform of CTA riders after she informed the sergeant she would not let the matter go. With her hands cuffed behind her back and tears streaming down her face, she refused additional opportunities to retract her grievance and regain her freedom.

“He pushed me,” she said, again and again.

The incident, captured on police body camera videos obtained by the Tribune, exemplifies the kind of small, typically undocumented occurrences that can erode community trust in the Chicago Police Department, especially at a time of renewed focus on law enforcement conduct nationally. Critics contend it highlights, yet again, a decades-old “code of silence” — an unwritten understanding that officers protect one another at all cost — that has led to federal oversight of the department in recent years.
 

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Miami-Dade police officer hitting woman at MIA, video shows | Miami Herald

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtWuMmAOk0g[/YOUTUBE]

She was being very obnoxious, really asking for it, but still that guy needs to find another line of work.

Not quite the overreaction it looks like--she hit him first.
It is quite the overreaction - the officer is supposed to be professional, and the woman barely touched him (if at all).
 

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Miami-Dade police officer hitting woman at MIA, video shows | Miami Herald

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtWuMmAOk0g[/YOUTUBE]

She was being very obnoxious, really asking for it, but still that guy needs to find another line of work.

Not quite the overreaction it looks like--she hit him first.

Um, even if she had, it would be an overreaction. But definitely, she as being obnoxious and belligerent. But nothing to merit being struck like that. If she did head-butt the officer, she should have been arrested for assault.
 

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Miami-Dade police officer hitting woman at MIA, video shows | Miami Herald

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtWuMmAOk0g[/YOUTUBE]

She was being very obnoxious, really asking for it, but still that guy needs to find another line of work.

Not quite the overreaction it looks like--she hit him first.

Um, even if she had, it would be an overreaction. But definitely, she as being obnoxious and belligerent. But nothing to merit being struck like that. If she did head-butt the officer, she should have been arrested for assault.

It's not a head-butt, but body-shoving him.
 

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Um, even if she had, it would be an overreaction. But definitely, she as being obnoxious and belligerent. But nothing to merit being struck like that. If she did head-butt the officer, she should have been arrested for assault.

It's not a head-butt, but body-shoving him.

That doesn't change anything, Loren.
 

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That makes it okay to you?
 

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Also, someone needs to check on his wife. She is not okay
 

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Miami-Dade police officer hitting woman at MIA, video shows | Miami Herald

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtWuMmAOk0g[/YOUTUBE]

She was being very obnoxious, really asking for it, but still that guy needs to find another line of work.

Not quite the overreaction it looks like--she hit him first.

That's what you saw? You have more problems with assessing objective reality than I could have imagined.

She. literally. did. not. hit. him. first.

Wtf is even wrong with you? Seriously. What is it? Not a rhetorical question. What is literally wrong with you? Do you know? Have you ever for example been diagnosed with anything that might be causing this sort of thing to happen?
 
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Miami-Dade police officer hitting woman at MIA, video shows | Miami Herald

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtWuMmAOk0g[/YOUTUBE]

She was being very obnoxious, really asking for it, but still that guy needs to find another line of work.

Not quite the overreaction it looks like--she hit him first.

That's what you saw? You have more problems with assessing objective reality than I could have imagined.

She. literally. did. not. hit. him. first.

Wtf is even wrong with you? Seriously. What is it? Not a rhetorical question. What is literally wrong with you? Do you know? Have you ever for example been diagnosed with anything that might be causing this sort of thing to happen?

"Hit" does not require the body part used to be the hands. It's her torso against his--assault and battery.
 

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That's what you saw? You have more problems with assessing objective reality than I could have imagined.

She. literally. did. not. hit. him. first.

Wtf is even wrong with you? Seriously. What is it? Not a rhetorical question. What is literally wrong with you? Do you know? Have you ever for example been diagnosed with anything that might be causing this sort of thing to happen?

"Hit" does not require the body part used to be the hands. It's her torso against his--assault and battery.
If you think that justifies or excuses that officer's reaction, I think ruby sparks' questions are relevant. If you do not think it justifies or excuses that officer's reaction, then why in the world would you bring up such a ridiculous point?
 

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That's what you saw? You have more problems with assessing objective reality than I could have imagined.

She. literally. did. not. hit. him. first.

Wtf is even wrong with you? Seriously. What is it? Not a rhetorical question. What is literally wrong with you? Do you know? Have you ever for example been diagnosed with anything that might be causing this sort of thing to happen?

"Hit" does not require the body part used to be the hands. It's her torso against his--assault and battery.

Even this is delusional. She didn't touch him with her torso either. He moved his arm into contact with her chest while he was winding up for his assault on her.

What IS wrong with you LP?
 

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That's what you saw? You have more problems with assessing objective reality than I could have imagined.

She. literally. did. not. hit. him. first.

Wtf is even wrong with you? Seriously. What is it? Not a rhetorical question. What is literally wrong with you? Do you know? Have you ever for example been diagnosed with anything that might be causing this sort of thing to happen?

"Hit" does not require the body part used to be the hands. It's her torso against his--assault and battery.

That’s just incorrect. I’ve watched the video over and over, and you’re just factually wrong. She did not hit him in any way, shape or form. No wonder you have so much trouble working out what actually constitutes objective justification for violent police responses in more complicated or serious incidents, if you can’t even get this one right.

This goes beyond a natural inclination to justify police actions in ambiguous situations and straight into not being able to see or objectively assess what is literally in front of you.

She. Did. Not. Hit. Him.

She provoked him and was abusive in other ways, yes. One could even say she physically intimidated him. But she didn’t hit him. Please don’t try to say that again. It’s just wrong, and possibly not just factually wrong but morally wrong, as in victim blaming and excusing physical violence, particularly by men against women, which is a very serious issue indeed. As such, it makes me quite angry that you would try to claim something in this case which is clearly not true or accurate.
 
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She. literally. did. not. hit. him. first.

"Hit" does not require the body part used to be the hands. It's her torso against his--assault and battery.

Even this is delusional. She didn't touch him with her torso either. He moved his arm into contact with her chest while he was winding up for his assault on her.

What IS wrong with you LP?

Quick poll - who thinks that this encounter with a woman who spoke back to him with her hands down by her sides is the final breaking point for this trained police officer, resulting in the first time he has ever punched a woman in the face?



Remember when Loren and Derec argued that Police know what tasers can do because during training they are tested with all sorts of situations to prepare them for what the worst feels like so they can think clearly under pressure? Remember? Oh, those were good times. Lies, I guess, but good times.
 

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Quick poll - who thinks that this encounter with a woman who spoke back to him with her hands down by her sides is the final breaking point for this trained police officer, resulting in the first time he has ever punched a woman in the face?

No point in speculating, imo. Though I agree with you that it's possible it wasn't his first time, and if any sort of case is taken against him, it might be looked into. I would not presume anything though. One might equally suppose that if he was a wife beater he'd have been smarter and not done it openly in this case.

Also, she did, before she went up to him, point at him in an intimidating way, and when she did go right up to him, it was very very close, invading his personal space, and she was taunting him very strongly (basically egging him on) and she said something about his race.

Clearly (a) as the first person to hit, he was out of line and imo should not only be sacked but face charges for assault. That he was a presumably trained police officer just makes it a bit worse, because he might be expected to not respond to intimidation the way he did.
 

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Apologies. I accidentally edited this post instead of replying to it

Ruby Sparks


Restoring most of original post from subsequent quoted material

Rhea

Loren in the original of this post said:
It does not excuse his actions but it shows they're not as unreasonable as was presented. This isn't a case of a cop responding to words with fists. It's a case of a cop responding to force with force--which is what they're trained to do.

I do feel he used more force than needed in the situation, though--taking her down and cuffing her would have been enough.

I wouldn't expect any cop to simply ignore it. Striking a cop will almost always end badly.
 
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Yes. Cops are bastards. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.
Probably because it’s not actually true.

Of course it's true, Ruby. You act like these actions are exceptions, or that they are aberrations that are dealt with. They aren't. They are common, and they happen because all police protect this sort of behavior. The police in the United States are essentially a gang, a gang with the authority of the law. But they act like a gang nonetheless. You are not a police force if there exists a "blue wall of silence". Why defend the cops?
 

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It does not excuse his actions but it shows they're not as unreasonable as was presented. This isn't a case of a cop responding to words with fists. It's a case of a cop responding to force with force--which is what they're trained to do.

You think cops are trained to escalate? To respond to crowding with punches?
That is reprehensible behavior and that you make excuses for it and provide him cover is revolting.

These are rhetorical questions, of course, because you have demonstrated in discussion after discussion after dicussion that you DO think that not only are they justified in exponential escalation, that they should be trained to make that their reaction and that the people who vow to Serve and Protect have your approval to do so.

It’s a simultaneously childish and monstrous response; “you hit me, I’ll hit you 10 times harder.” Is a bullies’ maxim to intimidate and destroy without any effort to either serve or to protect.

It is deplorable.

I do feel he used more force than needed in the situation, though--taking her down and cuffing her would have been enough.
“Taking her down,” huh? How wonderfully manly of you.
And what a horrible, violent world you build.


I repeat - if this cop has a wife, someone should check on her because there is no way on this earth that what we saw was his first punch ever.
And frankly, anyone who finds that kind of behavior justified - I ask that we check on their wife, as well.

It is monstrous and inexcusable to either do that or to supprt it as something citizens should expect.




I wouldn't expect any cop to simply ignore it. Striking a cop will almost always end badly.

She did not strike him, but here you are escalating “it will almost always end badly”


Why.


WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT?

Why on earth would we want to promote a violent society where cops are trained to escalate and “make it end badly?” Why would we feel safe around anyone who cheers that on? Who makes excuses for that violence, who promotes it and justofoes it and glorifies it?
 

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If you think that justifies or excuses that officer's reaction, I think ruby sparks' questions are relevant. If you do not think it justifies or excuses that officer's reaction, then why in the world would you bring up such a ridiculous point?

It does not excuse his actions but it shows they're not as unreasonable as was presented. ....
The officer’s response was unwarranted, unreaonable and unprofessional.

I am with the other posters on this - there is something wrong with anyone thinks this woman’s ”force” was a “strike”. She did not strike anyone in any meaningful sense of the word "strike". It is fucking delusional to claim otherwise.

It borders on sociopathy to claim the woman's actions make the officer's criminal assault less "unreasonable".
 
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Striking a cop will almost always end badly.

Except that she didn’t hit him. That’s a false and offensive statement that needs to be retracted.


I agree that it would be appropriate to rettract that statement as an obvious flase claim about what is clear in the video. She never ever struck him.

Loren - are you going to try to stand by your statement that she struck him? Or admit that you were untruthfully escalating the situation so that you could then claim the cop was justofied in punching the passenger in the face without warning?
 

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I can go through my negative experinces when I was young in the 70s. Lomg hair drew attention.

From the 80s on it has been positive. Keep my mouth shut and do what the cop says.

In 1970 I was changing duty station from Jacksonville Fl to Yorktown Va. I was a passenger in a Cutlass powersport.

We were cruising on secondary roads in Georgia. We got pulled over by a small car with the flashing lights hidden behind the grill. A speed trap.

The driver got out. I started to get out and the cop said 'get back in that car boy' half drawing his gun.

He took our money as bail bond leaving enough for gas knowing we would not show up for court the next day.
 

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I can go through my negative experinces when I was young in the 70s. Lomg hair drew attention.

From the 80s on it has been positive. Keep my mouth shut and do what the cop says.

In 1970 I was changing duty station from Jacksonville Fl to Yorktown Va. I was a passenger in a Cutlass powersport.

We were cruising on secondary roads in Georgia. We got pulled over by a small car with the flashing lights hidden behind the grill. A speed trap.

The driver got out. I started to get out and the cop said 'get back in that car boy' half drawing his gun.

He took our money as bail bond leaving enough for gas knowing we would not show up for court the next day.
Is that Police misconduct, or more just under-regulated free market capitalism? Or a bit of both. :D
 

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I can go through my negative experinces when I was young in the 70s. Lomg hair drew attention.

From the 80s on it has been positive. Keep my mouth shut and do what the cop says.

In 1970 I was changing duty station from Jacksonville Fl to Yorktown Va. I was a passenger in a Cutlass powersport.

We were cruising on secondary roads in Georgia. We got pulled over by a small car with the flashing lights hidden behind the grill. A speed trap.

The driver got out. I started to get out and the cop said 'get back in that car boy' half drawing his gun.

He took our money as bail bond leaving enough for gas knowing we would not show up for court the next day.
Is that Police misconduct, or more just under-regulated free market capitalism? Or a bit of both. :D

In the day speed traps were common. Out of state cars were stopped allegedly for speeding. Don't know about now, the AAA card used to guarantee up to $10k bail so people would not be held hostage in jail.
 

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You think cops are trained to escalate? To respond to crowding with punches?
That is reprehensible behavior and that you make excuses for it and provide him cover is revolting.

This isn't simply a matter of being in his personal space, but deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

And what I'm saying is that cops are trained to respond with a level of force a bit above what is being used against them. You could call that escalating.

It’s a simultaneously childish and monstrous response; “you hit me, I’ll hit you 10 times harder.” Is a bullies’ maxim to intimidate and destroy without any effort to either serve or to protect.

Childish? It's a pretty good deterrent if it's actual and not just words.
 

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Striking a cop will almost always end badly.

Except that she didn’t hit him. That’s a false and offensive statement that needs to be retracted.


I agree that it would be appropriate to rettract that statement as an obvious flase claim about what is clear in the video. She never ever struck him.

Loren - are you going to try to stand by your statement that she struck him? Or admit that you were untruthfully escalating the situation so that you could then claim the cop was justofied in punching the passenger in the face without warning?

She was right up close to him and then moves forward at :18, deliberately causing a collision. He pulls back and starts punching.
 

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I agree that it would be appropriate to rettract that statement as an obvious flase claim about what is clear in the video. She never ever struck him.

Loren - are you going to try to stand by your statement that she struck him? Or admit that you were untruthfully escalating the situation so that you could then claim the cop was justofied in punching the passenger in the face without warning?

She was right up close to him and then moves forward at :18, deliberately causing a collision. He pulls back and starts punching.

First, I love how you think you are a mind reader insisting that if there was collision then it was definately "deliberate." You aren't a mind reader. Secondly, there was no contact at 18. First contact was at 20 when the officer pushes her away with his left arm to give his right hook the potential for maximum damage. the fact that he was forced to move his arm so much indicates that there was space between them.
 

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You think cops are trained to escalate? To respond to crowding with punches?
That is reprehensible behavior and that you make excuses for it and provide him cover is revolting.

This isn't simply a matter of being in his personal space, but deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

And what I'm saying is that cops are trained to respond with a level of force a bit above what is being used against them. You could call that escalating.
If police are trained to go off on someone when they are slightly "bumped", then it is time to put all of them down.

Childish? It's a pretty good deterrent if it's actual and not just words.
Sorry, that officer's reaction was wrong. It is frightening to think there are people who downplay that monster's assault.
 

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....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

So as such you are definitely and literally endorsing actual, serious, violent assaults, in this case by men on women as it happens, because this isn’t a hypothetical scenario. An actual man violently assaulted an actual woman a few days ago, and you are making false allegations about her as an individual. And given that you must by now have seen the video umpteen times and still can’t accept that you initially made a mistake, you are being stubborn to the point of effectively being dishonest. You are basically by now lying outright, as you would be if you were hypothetically the only third party witness to this incident and giving a false account of it in court.
 
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....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

So as such you are definitely and literally endorsing actual, serious, violent assaults, in this case by men on women as it happens, because this isn’t a hypothetical scenario. An actual man violently assaulted an actual woman a few days ago, and you are making false allegations about her as an individual. And given that you must by now have seen the video umpteen times and still can’t accept that you initially made a mistake, you are being stubborn to the point of effectively being dishonest. You are basically by now lying outright, as you would be if you were hypothetically the only third party witness to this incident and giving a false account of it in court.


That’s a rather frightening thought. Picturing a jury that had this attitude on it.

Or, for that matter, picturing a Police training instructor with this attitude on it.
Or a Police comissioner.

Or a husband.


This attitude explicitly gives permission and comfort to those who escalate beyond all reason to react to a person crowding them with words to haul off and punch them in the face.

It is deplorable, Loren. Right, left and center. This is malevolent escalation. And you think it’s great. You like it.
 

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That’s a rather frightening thought. Picturing a jury that had this attitude on it.

Or, for that matter, picturing a Police training instructor with this attitude on it.
Or a Police comissioner.

Or a husband.

Well, we know at least some cops would lie about it, to cover up for a colleague. Now it seems we might have someone a bit like that, possibly sitting at a computer terminal wearing a fancy dress policeman outfit, fondling his pretend baton, doing it too.

Ok I'm done on this one.
 

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....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

The bolded did not happen.
 
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If police are trained to go off on someone when they are slightly "bumped", then it is time to put all of them down.

Childish? It's a pretty good deterrent if it's actual and not just words.
Sorry, that officer's reaction was wrong. It is frightening to think there are people who downplay that monster's assault.

#PutOutTheirEyes
 

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....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

The bolded did not happen.

Fair enough. He pushed her to the ground after hitting her.
 

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I agree that it would be appropriate to rettract that statement as an obvious flase claim about what is clear in the video. She never ever struck him.

Loren - are you going to try to stand by your statement that she struck him? Or admit that you were untruthfully escalating the situation so that you could then claim the cop was justofied in punching the passenger in the face without warning?

She was right up close to him and then moves forward at :18, deliberately causing a collision. He pulls back and starts punching.

First, I love how you think you are a mind reader insisting that if there was collision then it was definately "deliberate." You aren't a mind reader. Secondly, there was no contact at 18. First contact was at 20 when the officer pushes her away with his left arm to give his right hook the potential for maximum damage. the fact that he was forced to move his arm so much indicates that there was space between them.

He pushed her away because she stepped into him.
 

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....deliberately bumping into him. That's assault and battery.

It’s because of people like you making up false allegations that violent people such as that policeman get away with assaults in the real world, including, as it so happens in this case, a man thumping a woman in the head so hard it knocks her to the ground. It’s fortunate she didn’t crack her skull.

So as such you are definitely and literally endorsing actual, serious, violent assaults, in this case by men on women as it happens, because this isn’t a hypothetical scenario. An actual man violently assaulted an actual woman a few days ago, and you are making false allegations about her as an individual. And given that you must by now have seen the video umpteen times and still can’t accept that you initially made a mistake, you are being stubborn to the point of effectively being dishonest. You are basically by now lying outright, as you would be if you were hypothetically the only third party witness to this incident and giving a false account of it in court.

How many times do I have to repeat that I think he used too much force??
 
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