# "Protester" Misconduct Catch All Thread

#### Elixir

I guess this is Marxism in action. It's okay to destroy businesses because they are the bad people. The protesters are the good people. Individual culpability is irrelevant. That's how it works.

Yeah. Best kill them before they destroy your Property.
Why wait for the damage to be done? You KNOW they're going to riot (we'll make them do so if they don't do it by themselves).
Plus - they might be armed. Better safe than sorry.

#### Trausti

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I guess this is Marxism in action. It's okay to destroy businesses because they are the bad people. The protesters are the good people. Individual culpability is irrelevant. That's how it works.

Yeah. Best kill them before they destroy your Property.

#### Elixir

Maybe it will be a less stupid question if you ask it a third time.

#### laughing dog

##### Contributor
Without the petty initial stop, none of this would have happened. That is basic reasoning - try it some time.
That's not reasoning, basic or otherwise, it's illogical thinking.
Wrong.
People get pulled over millions of times in the US every day, often for minor moving and non-moving traffic violations. Vast majority do not escalate. So blaming the initial stop for the shooting is stupid.
Without the stop, it would not have happened. While your rush to exonerate the police and smear/blame the victim is predictable, denying basic reasoning simply leads people to question your motives.
The fact is that the young adult in question had an outstanding warrant. He also resisted arrest. Those two are germane to his shooting, not the initial stop.
That fact has not been established, but hey, you are not bound by the standards you wish to impose on others.

#### Trausti

##### Deleted

Maybe it will be a less stupid question if you ask it a third time.

Then quit justifying the destruction of other people's property. Maybe send out your address so the protesters can burn down your home. Ya know, for social justice.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
Maybe it will be a less stupid question if you ask it a third time.
The question was prompted by Toni trying to justify rioting and looting by stating that the rioters/looters were destroying the property of those who killed Daunte.
So if the question sounds stupid, it only does so because it is trying to expose Toni's contrived apologetics for "protester" violence.

#### laughing dog

##### Contributor
Reasons why police are jumpy when suspects do things like going back into the car during a traffic stop.

Iowa State Patrol officer killed in Grundy County incident, including officer-involved shooting

NEW DETAILS: 3 officers injured, suspect dead after chase, shooting in Carroll County

Both of these happened within the last 2 days.
So? Caution does not necessitate shoot to kill. Really, using your reasoning, black men should be equally as jumpy when stopped or approached by the police. Yet, somehow, I doubt you'd give that as an out if they offed an officer.

#### Toni

##### Contributor
I see you like digging yourself ever deeper into that bullshit pile.

You don't like your white supremacist proclivities being called out? Quit putting them on display.

Do we know he was unarmed?
The real questions are:

Did the police know if he was unarmed or armed?
and

Did it matter?

Because guess what? It doesn't. He's dead.

Marxism is not worse than Nazism.
They are both horrible and deadly ideologies.

Then maybe you need to step back from the Nazism and white power crap.

#### Elixir

Then quit justifying the destruction of other people's property.

I did not in any way "justify" the destruction of other people's property, and you know it.
These murders cannot be justified by asking stupid questions about the culpability of a Corporation.

#### Trausti

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Then quit justifying the destruction of other people's property.

I did not in any way "justify" the destruction of other people's property, and you know it.
These murders cannot be justified by asking stupid questions about the culpability of a Corporation.

Are you not following this discussion?

#### Derec

##### Contributor
Without the stop, it would not have happened.
Without Mother Daunte buying him a car, it would not have happened either. Without Karl Benz inventing the horseless carriage, it would not have happened either.
There is a (nigh) infinite number of "but for" reasons something might have happened. Doesn't mean that it's a relevant reason.
Daunte's decision to resist arrest prompted the shooting. Not the act of the car being pulled over.

While your rush to exonerate the police and smear/blame the victim is predictable, denying basic reasoning simply leads people to question your motives.
You are the one failing basic reasoning.
And I am not trying to exonerate police. We do not know whether the shooting was justified. Apparently, there is body camera footage, so we will find out eventually.
What we already know, however, is that the shooting was not because he had an "air freshner[sic]" and Toni needs to stop repeating that.

That fact has not been established, but hey, you are not bound by the standards you wish to impose on others.
Actually those facts were among the very first that were established, even before the identity of the shootee.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
So it turns out Daunte had a warrant for gun without a permit. So it is logical that the police officer thought that Daunte would go for his gun when he went back to the car.

I thought you progressives were for stricter gun law enforcement?

He also was on conditional release for an aggravated robbery charge from this February.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
You don't like your white supremacist proclivities being called out?
I have no such proclivities. You have been wallowing in that pile of bullshit for way too long Toni. Time to climb out and get hosed off.

Did the police know if he was unarmed or armed?
I would say given that they knew he had a warrant and that the warrant was for an illegal gun, the cop would have been stupid to not assume him armed.

Did it matter?
Because guess what? It doesn't. He's dead.
Body cam footage, once released, will tell us more. Without it, we can only speculate.

What we can say right now is that rioting and looting is definitely unjustified.

#### Toni

##### Contributor
Without Mother Daunte buying him a car, it would not have happened either. Without Karl Benz inventing the horseless carriage, it would not have happened either.
There is a (nigh) infinite number of "but for" reasons something might have happened. Doesn't mean that it's a relevant reason.
Daunte's decision to resist arrest prompted the shooting. Not the act of the car being pulled over.

You are the one failing basic reasoning.
And I am not trying to exonerate police. We do not know whether the shooting was justified. Apparently, there is body camera footage, so we will find out eventually.
What we already know, however, is that the shooting was not because he had an "air freshner[sic]" and Toni needs to stop repeating that.

That fact has not been established, but hey, you are not bound by the standards you wish to impose on others.
Actually those facts were among the very first that were established, even before the identity of the shootee.
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The air freshener was the traffic violation.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
The air freshener was the traffic violation.
Allegedly. And I am glad you finally learned how to spell it.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
Damn! Apparently it was an "accidental discharge" and the cop meant to pull a taser. Oscar Grant vibes.

Potato quality, but best I can find so far.
The idiot should have allowed himself to be arrested. Then he'd still be alive. You increase the chances of things going south by pulling stupid shit like this.

Still doesn't justify the #BLM violence and mass looting of course.

Gotta go work now. Will check back later.

#### Elixir

What we can say right now is that rioting and looting is definitely unjustified.

...unless you're part of a nearly all-white cop-killing mob ransacking the nation's Capitol at the behest of a racist President.
In that case you can go home and bask in the love. No matter how much footage is available.

#### Toni

##### Contributor
I have no such proclivities. You have been wallowing in that pile of bullshit for way too long Toni. Time to climb out and get hosed off.

I would say given that they knew he had a warrant and that the warrant was for an illegal gun, the cop would have been stupid to not assume him armed.

Did it matter?
Because guess what? It doesn't. He's dead.
Body cam footage, once released, will tell us more. Without it, we can only speculate.

What we can say right now is that rioting and looting is definitely unjustified.

There was a warrant for a misdemeanor gun charge. The MAX sentence would have been a year in jail and a $3000 fine. You think that made his shooting 'justifiable.' Or at least, explainable. To the people who are rioting and looting, police killing yet another unarmed man, during the trial of a police officer accused of murdering an unarmed man, no less, may or may not be justifiable. It sure is easy to explain WHY they feel so angry and so powerless to affect any change through quiet protest--which, BTW, you vehemently oppose. Your shit stinks to high heavens, Derek. Maybe start consuming a diet of something other than racist white supremacist bullshit on the internet. #### lpetrich ##### Contributor You despise Black Lives Matter. I do despise the organization by that name, yes. It's a Marxist group that is anti-police, pro-thug and advocates violence and looting. Evidence: {} Derec, there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in Fox News. #### laughing dog ##### Contributor Without Mother Daunte buying him a car, it would not have happened either. Without Karl Benz inventing the horseless carriage, it would not have happened either. There is a (nigh) infinite number of "but for" reasons something might have happened. Doesn't mean that it's a relevant reason. Daunte's decision to resist arrest prompted the shooting. Not the act of the car being pulled over. Again, without the stop, no matter how much sophistry and dumbness you wish to put forth, it would not have happened. And now, there are reports that this shooting was an accident - https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/daunte-wright-killed-police-brooklyn-center-minnesota-protests/ A police officer fatally shot a man, identified as Daunte Wright, after he was pulled over in a Minneapolis suburb Sunday, leading to clashes between protesters and law enforcement. On Monday, the police chief for the city of Brooklyn Center said the unidentified officer intended to use her Taser but instead grabbed her gun and shot Wright. Sunday's shooting happened in the midst of the Derek Chauvin trial for the killing of George Floyd. Police said officers pulled over a driver just before 2 p.m. Sunday and determined there was an outstanding warrant for him. Police said when they tried to arrest him, he got back in his vehicle and drove away. An officer fired at the vehicle, hitting the driver. Police said the vehicle traveled several blocks before hitting another one. No one in that second vehicle was hurt. Which should put to rest your "maybe going for his gun" crapola. #### TomC ##### Celestial Highness Marxism is not worse than Nazism. Right, they are equivalent. Equivalent is a strong word, they're quite different. Part of what made the Nazis so popular was their anti Marxism stance. They were even popular here in the USA. Hitler had a magnificently framed portrait of Henry Ford in his office, because Ford hated both Jews and Communists. Ford was quite the Nazi, back in the early 30s. But while ideological systems, taken to extremes, generally turn out badly Classical Liberalism and Capitalism are not different. The author of those immortal words "All men are created equal" owned slaves and helped crush the New World's second republic in Haiti. And unrestricted Capitalism has nearly destroyed the USA. It led to the The Great Depression and the Republican Recession of 2007-9. Really the list of disasters brought on by such ideologies, devoid of regard for human welfare, is huge! Socialism is the opposite. Government and social policies that prioritize human welfare is socialism. The people who benefit from prioritizing ideology, from Stalin to Ford to Hitler to Trump are the people who demonize socialism. Socialism is the lack of an ideology the preempts human welfare. Societies differ, so how socialism is expressed in different societies differs. Here's one example of socialism in the USA, the transportation system called "the freeway". Of course it wasn't free, it cost tons of taxpayer dollars. It didn't matter if you didn't own a car, and bought your needs from local people, you still had to pay in to the Freeway System because the government forced you to, almost literally at gun point. If you didn't pay the taxes funding the Freeway the government would eventually show up to force you to pay, with guns if necessary. Seriously, what Made America Great in the first place was war and socialism. Not Christianity and Capitalism. It's right there in the history books, if you look. Tom #### Elixir ##### Made in America "So I reached for the taser, drew the taser, pointed the taser and pulled the trigger on the taser, only it turned out not to be the taser, but the gun" Thank God she didn't decide to become an auto mechanic or a plumber or something like that, where such a mistake could have caused Right, Derec? #### Loren Pechtel ##### Super Moderator Staff member Kid got pulled over for an air freshner hanging from the rear view mirror. Police apparently notice there is some kind of warrant out for the kid. What type is not reported at this time. Kid gets back into his vehicle and police shoot him. Kid drives away before crashing. Passenger in vehicle also injured. Kid is dead. Unless that warrant is for something really awful, can someone please tell me how it is worth the life of this 20 year old kid? Kid not detected. Someone confronted by the cops and reaching for a space out of the officer's view--very dangerous. Maybe he's just fleeing, maybe he's going for a gun. If you don't act and he's going for a gun you had better hope he's a lousy shot as he's going to go first. (The time from when you first see the gun until he's got it aimed and pulling the trigger is less than human reaction time.) #### Toni ##### Contributor Kid got pulled over for an air freshner hanging from the rear view mirror. Police apparently notice there is some kind of warrant out for the kid. What type is not reported at this time. Kid gets back into his vehicle and police shoot him. Kid drives away before crashing. Passenger in vehicle also injured. Kid is dead. Unless that warrant is for something really awful, can someone please tell me how it is worth the life of this 20 year old kid? Kid not detected. Someone confronted by the cops and reaching for a space out of the officer's view--very dangerous. Maybe he's just fleeing, maybe he's going for a gun. If you don't act and he's going for a gun you had better hope he's a lousy shot as he's going to go first. (The time from when you first see the gun until he's got it aimed and pulling the trigger is less than human reaction time.) Why not just assassinate all newborn black male children because who knows when they'll be 'going for their gun' and endanger the life of some innocent white cop? Apparently simpler than convincing cops that kneeling on the necks of suspects is dangerous and can cause death of the suspect which is supposedly a bad thing (and worse, have a negative impact on your career if you are caught on video as is so common these days). Or teaching cops the difference between a taser and a gun, which is apparently very confusing when confronting a black male during a traffic stop as compared to the ease by which a white guy on a deadly rampage across three different crime scenes can be gently apprehended. Why not just admit it: black lives do not matter to too many white people? Not as much as white people being scared by black people because black people dare to exist in the same space, the same time/space continuum as white people and have the nerve to not be still slaves and sharecroppers, usually. We toss black lives away like loose change in a collection cup--Praise the Lord and let's sing Amazing Grace now, one more time for the cheap seats. #### Loren Pechtel ##### Super Moderator Staff member I saw a 10 second tweet with zero context provided. So yeah, I'm pretty reluctant to call that "protester misconduct" Read the article. What happened was that there was a #BLM protest for this Daunte Wright fellow which turned violent, as usual, with rioting and looting. No arsons yet, but the night is still young. Police shoot another unarmed black kid and people get upset. Huh. Maybe if people don't like riots, police should quit killing people over air freshners. And I presume you blame a battery for the destruction of Hiroshima. (You always fixate on the smallest link in the chain as if it's the important one. In this case we have air freshener => warrant check => attempted arrest => attempted flight => shooting.) And note there's a reason cops tend to go after such trivial things--people who disregard the law in ways like this (the air freshener obstructing the driver's view) often disregard it in bigger ways also. An awful lot of big arrests start with a minor traffic stop. #### Toni ##### Contributor Police shoot another unarmed black kid and people get upset. Huh. Maybe if people don't like riots, police should quit killing people over air freshners. And I presume you blame a battery for the destruction of Hiroshima. (You always fixate on the smallest link in the chain as if it's the important one. In this case we have air freshener => warrant check => attempted arrest => attempted flight => shooting.) And note there's a reason cops tend to go after such trivial things--people who disregard the law in ways like this (the air freshener obstructing the driver's view) often disregard it in bigger ways also. An awful lot of big arrests start with a minor traffic stop. An awful lot of deaths of unarmed black men start with things like minor traffic stops or loose cigarettes or jogging in a white neighborhood or sleeping in your own bed. #### Loren Pechtel ##### Super Moderator Staff member Reasons why police are jumpy when suspects do things like going back into the car during a traffic stop. Iowa State Patrol officer killed in Grundy County incident, including officer-involved shooting NEW DETAILS: 3 officers injured, suspect dead after chase, shooting in Carroll County Both of these happened within the last 2 days. So? Caution does not necessitate shoot to kill. Really, using your reasoning, black men should be equally as jumpy when stopped or approached by the police. Yet, somehow, I doubt you'd give that as an out if they offed an officer. The police are quite rightly jumpy when someone already committing a crime does an action that looks like they're trying to shoot the police. All too often they really are trying to shoot the police. #### Loren Pechtel ##### Super Moderator Staff member There was a warrant for a misdemeanor gun charge. The MAX sentence would have been a year in jail and a$3000 fine.
You think that made his shooting 'justifiable.' Or at least, explainable.

Illegal gun charge = someone likely to be armed.

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
Staff member
Kid got pulled over for an air freshner hanging from the rear view mirror.

Police apparently notice there is some kind of warrant out for the kid. What type is not reported at this time.

Kid gets back into his vehicle and police shoot him. Kid drives away before crashing. Passenger in vehicle also injured. Kid is dead.

Unless that warrant is for something really awful, can someone please tell me how it is worth the life of this 20 year old kid?

Kid not detected.

Someone confronted by the cops and reaching for a space out of the officer's view--very dangerous. Maybe he's just fleeing, maybe he's going for a gun. If you don't act and he's going for a gun you had better hope he's a lousy shot as he's going to go first. (The time from when you first see the gun until he's got it aimed and pulling the trigger is less than human reaction time.)

Why not just assassinate all newborn black male children because who knows when they'll be 'going for their gun' and endanger the life of some innocent white cop?

Apparently simpler than convincing cops that kneeling on the necks of suspects is dangerous and can cause death of the suspect which is supposedly a bad thing (and worse, have a negative impact on your career if you are caught on video as is so common these days).

Or teaching cops the difference between a taser and a gun, which is apparently very confusing when confronting a black male during a traffic stop as compared to the ease by which a white guy on a deadly rampage across three different crime scenes can be gently apprehended.

Why not just admit it: black lives do not matter to too many white people? Not as much as white people being scared by black people because black people dare to exist in the same space, the same time/space continuum as white people and have the nerve to not be still slaves and sharecroppers, usually. We toss black lives away like loose change in a collection cup--Praise the Lord and let's sing Amazing Grace now, one more time for the cheap seats.

Somehow I don't exactly consider it outlandish that someone with a warrant over an illegal gun charge might go for their gun.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
So LoAmmo created a new thread for Duante. He didn't name it "Dying for air freshners[sic]", but you can't have everything.

I will write all further responses there and the rest of you should follow suit.

#### Patooka

##### Veteran Member
So LoAmmo created a new thread for Duante. He didn't name it "Dying for air freshners[sic]", but you can't have everything.

I will write all further responses there and the rest of you should follow suit.

Yes, boss.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
Here's one example of socialism in the USA, the transportation system called "the freeway".
That is not socialism. That is just public spending. Socialism is an economic system characterized by public ownership of means of production. In Marxism, socialism is the intermediate stage in development toward communism, a stateless and classless society that has no need for things like money. Soviet Union and its satellites were not communist countries, but rather socialist, since communism hadn't been achieved by any of them.

In any case, this is off topic here. If you want to discuss socialism, there are threads for that.

#### laughing dog

##### Contributor
Reasons why police are jumpy when suspects do things like going back into the car during a traffic stop.

Iowa State Patrol officer killed in Grundy County incident, including officer-involved shooting

NEW DETAILS: 3 officers injured, suspect dead after chase, shooting in Carroll County

Both of these happened within the last 2 days.
So? Caution does not necessitate shoot to kill. Really, using your reasoning, black men should be equally as jumpy when stopped or approached by the police. Yet, somehow, I doubt you'd give that as an out if they offed an officer.

The police are quite rightly jumpy when someone already committing a crime does an action that looks like they're trying to shoot the police. All too often they really are trying to shoot the police.
First, I say that is your usual kneejerk apologia. Second, in this case, the officer was allegedly grabbing for her taser which suggests she was not all afraid he was going for a weapon.

#### lpetrich

##### Contributor
Here's one example of socialism in the USA, the transportation system called "the freeway".
That is not socialism. That is just public spending. Socialism is an economic system characterized by public ownership of means of production. ...
What is the boundary between (1) public spending and (2) public ownership of means of production? Derec, it seems to me that you are saying that roads are not socialist because you like them.

Governments own nearly all general-access roads. Privately-owned roads do exist, but those are almost all access roads on property. So general-access roads are almost all socialist roads, because government ownership of them is public ownership of the means of production of a service: providing places to travel on.

Likewise, government military and police forces are public ownership of the means of production of another service: protection. Government court systems are likewise, for arbitration, and government-owned jails and prisons are also likewise, for detention and punishment.

#### Derec

##### Contributor
What is the boundary between (1) public spending and (2) public ownership of means of production? Derec, it seems to me that you are saying that roads are not socialist because you like them.

Basically, it's a question of what dominates the economy, private or public sector. Socialist systems had some private businesses, mostly small stores and restaurants, and capitalist systems have government involvement.

Governments own nearly all general-access roads. Privately-owned roads do exist, but those are almost all access roads on property. So general-access roads are almost all socialist roads, because government ownership of them is public ownership of the means of production of a service: providing places to travel on.

It's stupid to use road construction to define economic systems because then everything would be "socialism" because every functioning society has public services like road infrastructure and such.

Likewise, government military and police forces are public ownership of the means of production of another service: protection. Government court systems are likewise, for arbitration, and government-owned jails and prisons are also likewise, for detention and punishment.

Sure. Nobody claimed otherwise. But it's not socialism no more than an existence of a privately owned fruit stand in Cuba means that they are capitalist. Look to what the economy is dominated by, not the exceptions.

#### marc

##### Veteran Member
Here's one example of socialism in the USA, the transportation system called "the freeway".
That is not socialism. That is just public spending. Socialism is an economic system characterized by public ownership of means of production. ...
What is the boundary between (1) public spending and (2) public ownership of means of production? Derec, it seems to me that you are saying that roads are not socialist because you like them.

Governments own nearly all general-access roads. Privately-owned roads do exist, but those are almost all access roads on property. So general-access roads are almost all socialist roads, because government ownership of them is public ownership of the means of production of a service: providing places to travel on.

Likewise, government military and police forces are public ownership of the means of production of another service: protection. Government court systems are likewise, for arbitration, and government-owned jails and prisons are also likewise, for detention and punishment.

Wait... but I thought public ownership of means of production was supposed to be communism, while public spending was socialism. In any case, pretty much every program proposed by the Democrats is public spending, not public production, so Derec is saying Republicans have been wrong/lied every time they have shouted 'socialism' about a Dem policy?

#### none

##### Banned
Banned
Jake Angeli/Jacob Anthony Chansley/QAnon Shaman is the gift that keeps on giving

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...3c2c96-52b9-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

The guy with the horns said:
What we did on Jan. 6 in many ways was an evolution in consciousness, because as we marched down the street along these ley lines, shouting ‘USA’ or shouting things like ‘freedom’ . . . we were actually affecting the quantum realm

The deep well of crazy seems bottomless
oh come on, very little people affect very little things

#### DrZoidberg

##### Contributor
Jake Angeli/Jacob Anthony Chansley/QAnon Shaman is the gift that keeps on giving

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...3c2c96-52b9-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

The guy with the horns said:
What we did on Jan. 6 in many ways was an evolution in consciousness, because as we marched down the street along these ley lines, shouting ‘USA’ or shouting things like ‘freedom’ . . . we were actually affecting the quantum realm

The deep well of crazy seems bottomless
oh come on, very little people affect very little things

Good point. To "actually affect" the quantum realm is a pretty banal claim. I would be more impressive to not affect the quantum realm in some way. Perhaps it can be done by marching and not marching at the same time?

#### Derec

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
Cities Drop Most Charges Against BLM Protesters as Cops Fail to Provide Evidence

At least 90 percent of charges against Black Lives Matter protesters in a dozen jurisdictions have been dropped, dismissed or not filed, according to an analysis by The Guardian. Such a high percentage suggests that the police may have been arresting people simply to suppress dissent.

In Houston and Los Angeles, The Guardian found, 93 percent of charges were either dropped or never filed; in some cities like Dallas and Philadelphia, that number rose to 95 percent of charges dropped or never prosecuted. Meanwhile, in San Francisco, 100 percent of 127 cases related to peaceful protesting were dropped.

The extremely high percentage of protest-related charges ultimately being dropped or dismissed suggests that police may have been using arrests as a tactic to prove that the protests were unruly and unlawful. As political commentators from both parties disparaged the movement for racial justice, media outlets kept tallies of arrests from the protests.

#### Loren Pechtel

##### Super Moderator
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Cities Drop Most Charges Against BLM Protesters as Cops Fail to Provide Evidence

At least 90 percent of charges against Black Lives Matter protesters in a dozen jurisdictions have been dropped, dismissed or not filed, according to an analysis by The Guardian. Such a high percentage suggests that the police may have been arresting people simply to suppress dissent.

In Houston and Los Angeles, The Guardian found, 93 percent of charges were either dropped or never filed; in some cities like Dallas and Philadelphia, that number rose to 95 percent of charges dropped or never prosecuted. Meanwhile, in San Francisco, 100 percent of 127 cases related to peaceful protesting were dropped.

The extremely high percentage of protest-related charges ultimately being dropped or dismissed suggests that police may have been using arrests as a tactic to prove that the protests were unruly and unlawful. As political commentators from both parties disparaged the movement for racial justice, media outlets kept tallies of arrests from the protests.

No surprise. The police were after the leaders, not those guilty of crimes.

##### Loony Running The Asylum
Staff member
Cities Drop Most Charges Against BLM Protesters as Cops Fail to Provide Evidence

At least 90 percent of charges against Black Lives Matter protesters in a dozen jurisdictions have been dropped, dismissed or not filed, according to an analysis by The Guardian. Such a high percentage suggests that the police may have been arresting people simply to suppress dissent.

In Houston and Los Angeles, The Guardian found, 93 percent of charges were either dropped or never filed; in some cities like Dallas and Philadelphia, that number rose to 95 percent of charges dropped or never prosecuted. Meanwhile, in San Francisco, 100 percent of 127 cases related to peaceful protesting were dropped.

The extremely high percentage of protest-related charges ultimately being dropped or dismissed suggests that police may have been using arrests as a tactic to prove that the protests were unruly and unlawful. As political commentators from both parties disparaged the movement for racial justice, media outlets kept tallies of arrests from the protests.

No surprise. The police were after the leaders, not those guilty of crimes.

Is that why they were attacking journalists?

#### Don2 (Don1 Revised)

##### Contributor
Cities Drop Most Charges Against BLM Protesters as Cops Fail to Provide Evidence

At least 90 percent of charges against Black Lives Matter protesters in a dozen jurisdictions have been dropped, dismissed or not filed, according to an analysis by The Guardian. Such a high percentage suggests that the police may have been arresting people simply to suppress dissent.

In Houston and Los Angeles, The Guardian found, 93 percent of charges were either dropped or never filed; in some cities like Dallas and Philadelphia, that number rose to 95 percent of charges dropped or never prosecuted. Meanwhile, in San Francisco, 100 percent of 127 cases related to peaceful protesting were dropped.

The extremely high percentage of protest-related charges ultimately being dropped or dismissed suggests that police may have been using arrests as a tactic to prove that the protests were unruly and unlawful. As political commentators from both parties disparaged the movement for racial justice, media outlets kept tallies of arrests from the protests.

No surprise. The police were after the leaders, not those guilty of crimes.

Who says?

#### Derec

##### Contributor

Grauniad and Truthoit (a far left blog) are full of shit, as usual. The fauxgressive DAs like Mike Schmidt of Portland refuse to file charges not because of lack of evidence but because of politics.
That's why the feds had to file a lot of these chrarges instead.

Take Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman. A lot of evidence against them (including a photo of Urooj holding a Molotov) but the Brooklyn DA never charged them with any state crime.

#### blastula

##### Contributor

Grauniad and Truthoit (a far left blog) are full of shit, as usual. The fauxgressive DAs like Mike Schmidt of Portland refuse to file charges not because of lack of evidence but because of politics.
That's why the feds had to file a lot of these chrarges instead.

Take Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman. A lot of evidence against them (including a photo of Urooj holding a Molotov) but the Brooklyn DA never charged them with any state crime.

The numbers come lots of different cities, not just Portland.

#### blastula

##### Contributor
Eh, then you're just speculating about all the dismissed cases.