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Ok, first world problem.

I like the idea of doing a lot of the UK by train. I get to look at the scenery and someone else is driving. I suspect it would work out a lot cheaper too and since I have no real "must see" items and have never been there, I think I could find interesting things no matter where I go.

On the other hand, hire car. Greater flexibility, and I have somewhere to store my suitcase while checking out a town or forest I don't intend staying in.

Can't decide.

Discuss?
 
Ok, first world problem.

I like the idea of doing a lot of the UK by train. I get to look at the scenery and someone else is driving. I suspect it would work out a lot cheaper too and since I have no real "must see" items and have never been there, I think I could find interesting things no matter where I go.

On the other hand, hire car. Greater flexibility, and I have somewhere to store my suitcase while checking out a town or forest I don't intend staying in.

Can't decide.

Discuss?
Pommy cars are generally woefully underpowered and even hire cars typically have a manual transmission - if you prefer to drive an automatic, you may need to jump through a few hoops to get one from a UK car rental place.

Fuel is eyewateringly expensive in the UK, though distances are obviously far shorter. Traffic is endemic, and is heavy pretty much everywhere, pretty much all the time. If you're used to driving in Australia, particularly rural Australia, it's astonishing that even remote country lanes in the UK have a lot of other motorists on them.

Train travel can be very nice, and very comfortable, if you avoid the peak times of the day and of the week (any travel a Friday, but particularly if it's the Friday of a long weekend, will be less comfortable; The mainline routes out of London to Scotland can also be pretty crowded midweek).

Fares vary hugely depending on when you want to travel (cheaper fares often imply less overcrowding) and how far in advance you book - a ticket to travel today will cost a LOT more than a ticket for the same trip in three months time.

If you know well in advance where and when you want to travel, you can often get a first class advance ticket for less than a standard class "turn up and go" fare. We did that for our travel on the East Coast Mainline (London Kings Cross to Edinburgh and on to Inverness, with a break in Leeds) and it was well worthwhile as we were travelling on New Years Eve, which meant that Standard Class was a sardine can. Even in First Class we had to chase some people out of our reserved seats.

Of our last two trips, one was a road trip covering a lot of ground in a rental car, and the other we did mostly by train; Both were a good experience. Our next trip will involve much less travelling around, and we plan to do it by public transport, mostly train - driving around would be a bit of a busman's holiday for me.
 
:D

I prefer a manual, but you make a good point about petrol.

I am learning, from here and IRL, the value of picking other's brains.

Also, the internet turns out to be a very good friend.

Last night a friend mentioned lockers at train stations. After research, I find that won't work so well for me. Turns out they're only in major cities. But there is a thing called Stasher which made my ears prick up.

You can dump your case at a hotel, even if you're not staying there, for a reasonable fee.

It's been interesting to note that e.g. Paddington-Oxford, 34 pounds. Marylebone-Oxford 6.

I also laughed to see that a Eurail pass Barcelona-Girone, 195 Euros. Extend that to Lyon. 295. Train ticket, 14. Girone to Lyon 38.

I will absolutely need a phone just for the information, and making bookings as I get around.

Did I mention that We Will Rock You and The Book of Mormon, both of which I didn't get to see at home, were playing in London? Seasons ending about 3 weeks before I get there? Grrrrrr.

:D

Thanks bilby.
 
I realize I don't know spikepipsqueak's travel plans but I did find this which talks about easy travel in California:


I think it will be somewhat impossible to avoid tourists in California however you travel. I do want to add my cautions about taking busses for travel along the coast. It isn't that you will likely encounter the 'unwashed' but you are more likely to encounter people who are looking for easy pickings as marks. Be careful! Trains are usually safer. It has been years since I did distance traveling via Greyhound, but even all those years ago, some of the other passengers were really unpleasant people. My daughter more recently has indicated that she won't do distance on busses anymore, either.

Just be careful! and have a ton of fun! Let us know all about your trip!

And thank you to everyone who responded. It will be a little while longer before I do international travel but I really appreciate your tips. I barely make it into Canada....
 
Most of California is not Trump country anyway. I do t think you’ll have a problem. If you should happen to see someone wearing something Trump related, just talk to other people who will be charmed by your accent even before they get to see your personality. Let the idiots sit by themselves. Honestly, most Americans don’t talk about politics with strangers. Or friends, if they want to keep them.
A lot of California is Trump country actually, but not the parts tourists ever go to, or that you could travel by train to (trains are "liberal").

In any case, I've never heard of anyone roughing up a tourist over politics. Most people here avoid talking politics at all if they can help it.
 
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