Sasha Baron Cohen Gets Serious

[Trausti]

Shot.



Chaser.

Germany’s Online Crackdowns Inspire the World’s Dictators: An anti-hate speech law written in Berlin has been copy-pasted by authoritarian regimes from Caracas to Moscow

The Network Enforcement Act’s detractors argue that it delegates to the private sector the role of cybercop with little transparency or due process. This encourages social media companies to over-implement by providing an incentive to err on the side of caution to avoid fines. While no new offenses were crafted for the law, some of the existing definitions of “unlawful” are problematic in themselves.

This includes most glaringly Germany’s approach to the offense of “defamation of religions,” which violates international human rights standards. Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights guarantees freedom of expression including the “freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers.” In 2018, the United Nations’ independent expert on freedom of expression expressed concern about the new act and other state-imposed models of intermediary liability as potential violations of Article 19.

Blasphemy is not free speech! You got that, bigot!

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

https://mobile.twitter.com/trunews/status/1199380701746995201?ref_url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.occidentaldissent.com%2f2019%2f11%2f27%2forganized-jewry-is-trying-to-take-out-trunews%2f

They got suspended for hate speech. That basically says they're not worth watching.

Well, do you want to make that determination on your own or do you want to give someone else that authority?

This keeps showing up like Trausti's Halleluja Chorus. I suppose the problem might simply be fear. The fear is that because I can't do everything perfectly I can't do anything that is good. More likely I'm supposing the thinking is that if we can learn from our past and so take steps to protect people I won't be able to engage in my supremacist tactics and my propaganda for same will be deemed illegal.

Of course Trausti will equate doing anything with marching toward the extermination of religious or ethnic or minority groups. Pretty soon they're gonna be coming for white people. Be afraid, be very, very afraid Whitey!

In any case I suggest maybe joining a church and its prayer-shawl committee so you can learn to love and accept people again.

 

[repoman]

Looks like the Jew fix is in. Well they had a good run.



https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1201313248651464711

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Looks like the Jew fix is in. Well they had a good run.

You mean a broken jew has been repaired?

 

[Gun Nut]

Wow. So the guy who made his career playing off racial and ethnic stereotypes is coming out against free speech?

just the opposite. There is nothing "free" about the speech promoted on Facebook. The algorithm specifically chooses polarizing content for the emotional response.. it was designed to "engage" not "educate", "inform", or spread truth... the consequence is that it spreads lies. That highly selective speech that it spreads is the opposite of free speech.

He is coming out against lies and the tools that make lies more prevalent than truths. Only criminals and other amoral entities could possibly be against that. Which are you?

 

[Gun Nut]

https://mobile.twitter.com/trunews/status/1199380701746995201?ref_url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.occidentaldissent.com%2f2019%2f11%2f27%2forganized-jewry-is-trying-to-take-out-trunews%2f

They got suspended for hate speech. That basically says they're not worth watching.

Well, do you want to make that determination on your own or do you want to give someone else that authority?

If spreading harmful lies were illegal, then trusting the general population with the task of evaluating what is in their own interests or not would be fine - there would be some control over those that would take advantage of the 50% of the population that has lower than average intelligence.. Since lies are part of free speech today, then yes I would like there to be someone curating for the mentally below average.

 

[ruby sparks]

If spreading harmful lies were illegal, then trusting the general population with the task of evaluating what is in their own interests or not would be fine - there would be some control over those that would take advantage of the 50% of the population that has lower than average intelligence.. Since lies are part of free speech today, then yes I would like there to be someone curating for the mentally below average.

I might (I think) be above averagely intelligent, and I would like some curation too.

You know what they say, the instant you start to think you're immune to subtle manipulation is when you are potentially most vulnerable to it.

All of these things (eg what we're calling curation) tend to hinge, in the end, on the phrase 'reasonable limit'. Unfortunately it's usually a bitch to work out where it is or get a consensus to agree on the best guess.

 

[Trausti]

Wow. So the guy who made his career playing off racial and ethnic stereotypes is coming out against free speech?

just the opposite. There is nothing "free" about the speech promoted on Facebook. The algorithm specifically chooses polarizing content for the emotional response.. it was designed to "engage" not "educate", "inform", or spread truth... the consequence is that it spreads lies. That highly selective speech that it spreads is the opposite of free speech.

He is coming out against lies and the tools that make lies more prevalent than truths. Only criminals and other amoral entities could possibly be against that. Which are you?

Heh. The main newspaper of the Soviet Union was named “Truth.”

 

[Trausti]

Well, do you want to make that determination on your own or do you want to give someone else that authority?

If spreading harmful lies were illegal, then trusting the general population with the task of evaluating what is in their own interests or not would be fine - there would be some control over those that would take advantage of the 50% of the population that has lower than average intelligence.. Since lies are part of free speech today, then yes I would like there to be someone curating for the mentally below average.

Harmful lies. Good grief. Like evolution? Don’t you know how harmful that is to some religious folks? You may lack the mental capacity to critically judge evidence, but please done assume the rest of us need this toddler-level of protection.

 

[Gun Nut]

If spreading harmful lies were illegal, then trusting the general population with the task of evaluating what is in their own interests or not would be fine - there would be some control over those that would take advantage of the 50% of the population that has lower than average intelligence.. Since lies are part of free speech today, then yes I would like there to be someone curating for the mentally below average.

I might (I think) be above averagely intelligent, and I would like some curation too.

You know what they say, the instant you start to think you're immune to subtle manipulation is when you are potentially most vulnerable to it.

All of these things (eg what we're calling curation) tend to hinge, in the end, on the phrase 'reasonable limit'. Unfortunately it's usually a bitch to work out where it is or get a consensus to agree on the best guess.

You're right about that.

 

[Gun Nut]

Well, do you want to make that determination on your own or do you want to give someone else that authority?

If spreading harmful lies were illegal, then trusting the general population with the task of evaluating what is in their own interests or not would be fine - there would be some control over those that would take advantage of the 50% of the population that has lower than average intelligence.. Since lies are part of free speech today, then yes I would like there to be someone curating for the mentally below average.

Harmful lies. Good grief. Like evolution? Don’t you know how harmful that is to some religious folks? You may lack the mental capacity to critically judge evidence, but please done assume the rest of us need this toddler-level of protection.

The harmful lie is the religiously backed denial of scientific knowledge.. and yes, I think that should be illegal... and yes, I think you may be in the group of people that might need help sorting fact from fiction. See https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740 for an explaination as to why that may be.

 

[Gun Nut]

Shot.



Chaser.

Germany’s Online Crackdowns Inspire the World’s Dictators: An anti-hate speech law written in Berlin has been copy-pasted by authoritarian regimes from Caracas to Moscow

The Network Enforcement Act’s detractors argue that it delegates to the private sector the role of cybercop with little transparency or due process. This encourages social media companies to over-implement by providing an incentive to err on the side of caution to avoid fines. While no new offenses were crafted for the law, some of the existing definitions of “unlawful” are problematic in themselves.

This includes most glaringly Germany’s approach to the offense of “defamation of religions,” which violates international human rights standards. Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights guarantees freedom of expression including the “freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers.” In 2018, the United Nations’ independent expert on freedom of expression expressed concern about the new act and other state-imposed models of intermediary liability as potential violations of Article 19.

Blasphemy is not free speech! You got that, bigot!

I invite you to move to Germany, where such a thing exists, if that is how you wish to live.

 

[Gun Nut]

Looks like the Jew fix is in. Well they had a good run.

You mean a broken jew has been repaired?

OT:

My wife worked at a tree nursery. most of the laborers were immigrants from Mexico. She has a picture of a work order to remove several Yew Trees for a customer.
It was filled out by a laborer that heard a "J" being pronounced as a "Y", as is the case in Spanish.
The work order read, "Remove dead Jews".

 

[repoman]

https://mobile.twitter.com/trunews/status/1199380701746995201?ref_url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.occidentaldissent.com%2f2019%2f11%2f27%2forganized-jewry-is-trying-to-take-out-trunews%2f

They got suspended for hate speech. That basically says they're not worth watching.

It's who says it that matters