SHOCKING: Libertarian will support right-wing judicial nominee crammed down your throat

[Jason Harvestdancer]

According to the Pope of Libertarianism that means they are not libertarians.

Since when are you religious?

Anyway, Libertarian/Authoritarian is orthogonal to Progressive/Conservative.

In theory, but not in practice.

In practice it is even less related than orthogonal.

 

[Derec]

It can't be less than orthogonal.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

In theory, but not in practice.

In practice it is even less related than orthogonal.

Wtf

 

[Underseer]

"After meeting Judge Kavanaugh and reviewing his record, I have decided to support his nomination," Paul said in a statement.

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"I have expressed my concern over Judge Kavanaugh's record on warrantless bulk collection of data and how that might apply to very important privacy cases before the Supreme Court," Paul said on Monday.

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He added he hoped Kavanaugh would be "more open" to protections on digital records and property in the wake of a Supreme Court ruling that found, in most cases, law enforcement has to obtain a warrant in order to search and seize long-term cell phone records that would show a person's location.

"Of course, my vote is not a single-issue vote, and much of my reading and conversation has been in trying to figure out exactly how good Judge Kavanaugh will be on other issues before the Court," Paul added.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/399496-rand-paul-announces-support-for-kavanaugh

Republican "moderates" and so-called libertarians are all falling in line. It will happen.

Gosh, even though libertarians and Republicans are supposedly polar opposites, this happens.

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Can't you see how incredibly surprised I am?

I can't wait to see the tantrums from the usual suspects. Goodness forbid we use facts in the Great Debate About How Totally Different Conservatives and Libertarians Are.

 

[untermensche]

Libertarians are hybrids.

They have some good qualities.

Expressed in positions on things like drugs.

They have some bad qualities.

Expressed in a blind devotion to unfettered capitalism.

Something that would create an even greater disparity in wealth, which in the real world means power.

They have a devotion to the idea of most dancing to the tune sung by some elite group of incredibly wealthy tyrants.

 

[Emily Lake]

In practice it is even less related than orthogonal.

It can't be less than orthogonal.

Wtf

Maybe if you introduce an imaginary axis? But yeah - they can't be less related than orthogonal.

 

[laughing dog]

Maybe if you introduce an imaginary axis?

We are talking about a libertarian, so any imaginary outcome is in play.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

So what I am hearing is that we might need a wormhole to bend space-time, thus making Libertarianism feasible.

 

[Emily Lake]

Maybe if you introduce an imaginary axis?

We are talking about a libertarian, so any imaginary outcome is in play.

No. Libertarianism, as a concept, is orthogonal to authoritarianism. It's not imaginary. Mostly, a whole lot of people insistently conflate the concept of libertarianism with the Libertarian Political Party, which is just about as cohesive as my grandfather's brain is right now.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

I submit as evidence the John Birch Society.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

In 3D space, one may have two lines that are neither parallel nor intersect. This is called "skew" and it is basic geometry.

 

[laughing dog]

In 3D space, one may have two lines that are neither parallel nor intersect. This is called "skew" and it is basic geometry.

It is obvious that orthogonal in this context refers to absolutely no overlap. So, your geometry lesson is inapt.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Look, LD learned something about geometry today and is proud.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Look, LD learned something about geometry today and is proud.

Your high school level of argument is unconvincing.

 

[laughing dog]

Look, LD learned something about geometry today and is proud.

Your high school level of argument is unconvincing. embarrassingly stupid

FIFY

 

[Emily Lake]

In 3D space, one may have two lines that are neither parallel nor intersect. This is called "skew" and it is basic geometry.

It is obvious that orthogonal in this context refers to absolutely no overlap. So, your geometry lesson is inapt.

Actually, orthogonal doesn't mean no overlap. The two lines intersect at a point. It simply means that they move in completely different directions. The most common usage of orthogonal refers to the axes in cartesian coordinates, which are at right angles to one another.

 

[Emily Lake]

In 3D space, one may have two lines that are neither parallel nor intersect. This is called "skew" and it is basic geometry.

Sure, but in this context, we're really only talking about two dimensions, so skew isn't an option. You'd need to add at least one more dimension to accomplish skew... unless you start introducing curves, and that just seems needlessly complicated...

 

[laughing dog]

In 3D space, one may have two lines that are neither parallel nor intersect. This is called "skew" and it is basic geometry.

It is obvious that orthogonal in this context refers to absolutely no overlap. So, your geometry lesson is inapt.

Actually, orthogonal doesn't mean no overlap. The two lines intersect at a point. It simply means that they move in completely different directions. The most common usage of orthogonal refers to the axes in cartesian coordinates, which are at right angles to one another.

Orthogonal in statistics means no correlation whatsoever - which means no overlap.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Economically, GOP has a lot of agreement with Libertarian Party. On the social side, there is some agreement, too, like with being against the Civil Rights Act and being for guns and religion. This is why Ron Paul was popular with Libertarians and conservatives.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Economically, GOP has a lot of agreement with Libertarian Party.

Republicans like protectionism, corporate subsidies, lush government contracts. Their stand on regulation is to benefit class A over class B, which is oppose the Democrat position that it should benefit class B over class A.
Libertarians oppose tariffs, subsidies, and lush government contracts. Their stand on regulation is to have a little as possible and to not favor either class.

That's exactly the same.

On the social side, there is some agreement, too, like with being against the Civil Rights Act and being for guns and religion.

That's why libertarians were in favor of gay marriage decades before progressives were. And in favor of interracial marriage before progressives were. Some Republicans think only one religion is valid for freedom of religion, that is clearly not a libertarian viewpoint. That's even before we get to the libertarian position on the war on vice (drugs, drinking, sex, prostition, etc.)

Yep, exactly the same again.