Should we put shame on us all? We burden our children.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Should we put shame on us all? We burden our children.

It is said that all parents hurt their children in some way or another. This is true, inadvertently.

No sane parent plans to intentionally hurt their children. Except, shamefully, in these enlightened times.

We are showing ourselves to be quite callous. Perhaps this is not the brightest thing to do.

We intentionally pass on our negative biases to our children and continue to pass on our
war mongering ways and debt.

I hope, like me; you do not take pride in passing on debt, a polluted world, continuing strife in issues that should have been resolved hundreds of years ago, homophobia, misogyny etc.

If we were half as bright as we think we are, none of us would be passing on our responsibilities and creating hardship for our progeny.

I have no way to effect mass change and am thus a prisoner to my shame.
I thought some might share theirs with me.

Caring seems to be at a low point these days.

Polarization is evil as it inhibits caring.

Shame reduces polarization.

Share your shame.

It is sharing love.

Regards
DL

 

[LordKiran]

I'd say the diservice we do to future generations beyond "Leaving the world in a worst state than when we found it" is that children seem to get less and less attention from their parents as we invent more and more ways to keep them distracted. Coupled with this is that we are asking more and more of our children. Putting a child through 16 years of deticated schooling (Some of which can be quite taxing and rigorous) and then expecting them to immediately enter the work force with nary a breath between steps? Maybe its just because I didn't turn out that way but that always seemed unreasonable to me. Good way to stress young people out and make them old before their time.

 

[untermensche]

Many children are abused mentally with tales of gods and other lies.

 

[LordKiran]

Many children are abused mentally with tales of gods and other lies.

/eyeroll

 

[starwater]

I don't understand why this is in Politcal Discussions topic.

 

[untermensche]

Many children are abused mentally with tales of gods and other lies.

/eyeroll

You find widespread child abuse amusing?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Many children are abused mentally with tales of gods and other lies.

/eyeroll

You find widespread child abuse amusing?

There is raising children with ideas of deism... then there is sending children to places like Jesus Camp... then there are the girls kidnapped by Boko Haram. So there are obviously levels to this.

 

[untermensche]

You find widespread child abuse amusing?

There is raising children with ideas of deism... then there is sending children to places like Jesus Camp... then there are the girls kidnapped by Boko Haram. So there are obviously levels to this.

Yes. There is child abuse and then there is harsher child abuse.

It's all abuse.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

I'd say the diservice we do to future generations beyond "Leaving the world in a worst state than when we found it" is that children seem to get less and less attention from their parents as we invent more and more ways to keep them distracted. Coupled with this is that we are asking more and more of our children. Putting a child through 16 years of deticated schooling (Some of which can be quite taxing and rigorous) and then expecting them to immediately enter the work force with nary a breath between steps? Maybe its just because I didn't turn out that way but that always seemed unreasonable to me. Good way to stress young people out and make them old before their time.

Well put and accurate.

Regards
DL

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Many children are abused mentally with tales of gods and other lies.

Indeed. Mental abuse that we as a society tolerate.

Regards
DL

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I don't understand why this is in Political Discussions topic.

Because debt and the environment are political issues.

Regards
DL

 

[PyramidHead]

We burden our children first and foremost by the act of creating them. All other burdens can be traced back to this original imposition.

 

[LordKiran]

We burden our children first and foremost by the act of creating them. All other burdens can be traced back to this original imposition.

I mean you're not wrong, though I think we can judge some burdens as more or less superfluous than others

 

[Jolly_Penguin]

Don't trust children. Children are plotting to take over our jobs. Build a wall.

 

[PyramidHead]

We burden our children first and foremost by the act of creating them. All other burdens can be traced back to this original imposition.

I mean you're not wrong, though I think we can judge some burdens as more or less superfluous than others

Naturally. But having to wrestle with (and inevitably succumb to) one's own mortality is a pretty big one that nobody asked for.

 

[rousseau]

In some respects I believe thinking people need to accept that the world is imperfect, there are a lot of things we're going to screw up, and it may even be the case that we have no control over these screw-ups.

I don't know that feeling bad about not being perfect, or contributing to environmental degradation, is really all that useful. If anything, worrying about the short-term impacts of billions of years of evolution leading to this moment seems like the more irrational perspective.

I don't know that anyone on the planet wouldn't walk 20 minutes to press a 'fix everything' button if they could, but that's not really how reality works.

 

[Emily Lake]

I'd say the diservice we do to future generations beyond "Leaving the world in a worst state than when we found it" is that children seem to get less and less attention from their parents as we invent more and more ways to keep them distracted. Coupled with this is that we are asking more and more of our children. Putting a child through 16 years of deticated schooling (Some of which can be quite taxing and rigorous) and then expecting them to immediately enter the work force with nary a breath between steps? Maybe its just because I didn't turn out that way but that always seemed unreasonable to me. Good way to stress young people out and make them old before their time.

For a huge portion of our history, children got very little attention from their parents, and were merely farmhands grown in-house. They got little to no schooling, and were expected to enter the workforce as soon as they could manage a hoe or a hatchet. And they got old somewhere around 40, with a life expectancy of around 50 or 60.

It may not be as great as it was in your "good old days", but I dont think it's quite as bad as you make it out. After all, they're not expected to walk 7 miles uphill both directions in the snow while barefoot anymore .

 

[LordKiran]

I'd say the diservice we do to future generations beyond "Leaving the world in a worst state than when we found it" is that children seem to get less and less attention from their parents as we invent more and more ways to keep them distracted. Coupled with this is that we are asking more and more of our children. Putting a child through 16 years of deticated schooling (Some of which can be quite taxing and rigorous) and then expecting them to immediately enter the work force with nary a breath between steps? Maybe its just because I didn't turn out that way but that always seemed unreasonable to me. Good way to stress young people out and make them old before their time.

For a huge portion of our history, children got very little attention from their parents, and were merely farmhands grown in-house. They got little to no schooling, and were expected to enter the workforce as soon as they could manage a hoe or a hatchet. And they got old somewhere around 40, with a life expectancy of around 50 or 60.

It may not be as great as it was in your "good old days", but I dont think it's quite as bad as you make it out. After all, they're not expected to walk 7 miles uphill both directions in the snow while barefoot anymore .

Coincidentally, most of human history fucking sucked for most people who lived it. So I am not of the mind that it should necessarily be imitated. Children were regarded with much emotional distance on account of their likelihood to expire before they were six, so it made sense to treat children that way. Hard times call for hard hearts as they say. But that was centuries/millennia ago. Whats the modern excuse?

 

[untermensche]

Indeed. Mental abuse that we as a society tolerate.

The problem is, when you try to ban this form of mental abuse by force that becomes abuse.

We have politicians not leaders.

Politicians use shared delusions to win votes. They reinforce ignorance and promote it in their interests.

Humanity is still in such an insane state.

Most likely it will end soon.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Indeed. Mental abuse that we as a society tolerate.

The problem is, when you try to ban this form of mental abuse by force that becomes abuse.

We have politicians not leaders.

Politicians use shared delusions to win votes. They reinforce ignorance and promote it in their interests.

Humanity is still in such an insane state.

Most likely it will end soon.

Eh. No.

If you look at the stats and your view of an insane state, you will see the opposite.

The stats are near the end of this link if you want to ignore the rest, but I recommend watching the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLulcfyqrc0

Regards
DL