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Should white local people be encouraged to work as domestic servants in order to curb immigration?

Surely the answer lies in not hiring domestic servants. Why would anyone want one? Kiss your privacy goodbye. And if you don't personally want the experience of raising a kid, you know who works cheaper than Guatemalans? Trojans.

True, but unless having domestics is banned then people will still demand them, unless the whole system changes - and what better way than to ease the self-indulgent decadents off the teat of cheap and malleable migrant labour....
 
Not enough supply of legal workers compared to the demand? hmmm, what should normally happen when there's not enough supply to meet demand?

Then wages and conditions ought to improve, or technological advancement, self sufficiency etc....but will the elitists allow that? hmmm, I think not

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Putting locals to work won't make HERE any less attractive to someone who can't get food or clean water or a vote THERE.

The answer is to just ban the immigrants from coming in the first place.
 
In my neighborhood, all the house cleaners are middle aged white women.
 
What you appear to be missing is that the white people don't WANT to work those jobs.

That may be true, but no one really 'wants' these jobs. But surely better to push our own people into this kind of work than have them sit on benefits whilst the immigrants do it - I mean long term this must be better for the economy, surely? And they don't need to be 16hrs a day, can be a normal length shift.

You mean no one wants those jobs at the current wage rates for those jobs.
 
Is there a substantial amount of people who employ domestic servants in the UK such that it would make much of a difference when it comes to the overall rate of immigration?
 
You mean no one wants those jobs at the current wage rates for those jobs.


They may not 'want' them as such, but before all the mass immigrants came it was usually local people doing these jobs - now they've been displaced - so something clearly wrong there, iow: local people will do them!
 
Anecdotally, after living in southern California for sixteen years, you'd be hard-pressed to convince those who have positions available to hire citizens over immigrants. Many businesses that rely on low wage employees, e.g., lawn care, cleaning services, day laborers, etc. know they cannot be relied upon. They show up late, drunk, or not at all. So for all the people screaming to keep immigrants out, there are just as many business owners screaming to let them in.
See, first generation immigrants bust their asses for low wages so successive ones don't have to. Not only do they not have to, they don't want to. That's just the nature of the way things work.

You use the word "encourage". Encourage how? You got a plan twittering around in there. I'd love to hear it.
 
This is one of the main causes of mass immigration - ie: local whites would prefer not to work as domestic servants, cleaners, nannies etc..so we just get in immigrants instead. This problem is further exacerbated by the availability of welfare which, in UK at least, pays the same as min wage

So surely the answer lies in this mix somewhere?
I'm not sure what the problem is supposed to be. Fewer people desperate enough to accept a demeaning life under someone else's roof for peanuts... I call that progress.

It's not clear what "white" has to do with it either.
 
This is one of the main causes of mass immigration - ie: local whites would prefer not to work as domestic servants, cleaners, nannies etc..so we just get in immigrants instead. This problem is further exacerbated by the availability of welfare which, in UK at least, pays the same as min wage

So surely the answer lies in this mix somewhere?
Surely the answer lies in not hiring domestic servants. Why would anyone want one? Kiss your privacy goodbye. And if you don't personally want the experience of raising a kid, you know who works cheaper than Guatemalans? Trojans.

You really want a Trojan working for you? They'll let just about anyone into your house if that person has a present for them.
 
See, first generation immigrants bust their asses for low wages so successive ones don't have to. Not only do they not have to, they don't want to. That's just the nature of the way things work.

You use the word "encourage". Encourage how? You got a plan twittering around in there. I'd love to hear it.

Sure, here's the plan:

1. Cut welfare down to size
2. Employ farm workers etc through the state (local people only)

That will push some into work
 
Nobody with any self-respect would act as another's personal servant, surely? It is disgusting.
 
Nobody with any self-respect would act as another's personal servant, surely? It is disgusting.

I know a couple of people who would love to do it. They've also stated that it would need to pay at least $80K, because they would not give up their current job to do it.
 
See, first generation immigrants bust their asses for low wages so successive ones don't have to. Not only do they not have to, they don't want to. That's just the nature of the way things work.

You use the word "encourage". Encourage how? You got a plan twittering around in there. I'd love to hear it.

Sure, here's the plan:

1. Cut welfare down to size
2. Employ farm workers etc through the state (local people only)

That will push some into work

Not sure how cutting welfare even further will do it.
Also not sure on how using state resources will have any effect.
 
Putting locals to work won't make HERE any less attractive to someone who can't get food or clean water or a vote THERE.
The answer is to just ban the immigrants from coming in the first place.
Then why are you bothering with 'encouraging the locals' bullshit? You're doing it backwards.

1) Ban immigration entirely.
2) Then figure some effective way to stop illegals, because you haven't made 'here' any less attractive to the people that immigrate.
3) If the source of cheap labor dries up, the jobs will still be there, and people will have to pay decent wages to get the locals to deign to do them.
4) And then figure some way to police the business that remain profitable by hiring illegals to do the jobs immigrants had been doing and locals won't, not for the prices the businesses think they should have to pay for the labor....
 
Nobody with any self-respect would act as another's personal servant, surely? It is disgusting.

Self-respect or not, you'd do it if you had to put food on your kid's table. Pride doesn't last long when your kids are hungry.
 
Nobody with any self-respect would act as another's personal servant, surely? It is disgusting.

Self-respect or not, you'd do it if you had to put food on your kid's table. Pride doesn't last long when your kids are hungry.

Like the bar-girl in the Philippines once told me: "You'd be surprised what you'd put in your mouth when your hungry".
 
Surely the answer lies in not hiring domestic servants. Why would anyone want one? Kiss your privacy goodbye. And if you don't personally want the experience of raising a kid, you know who works cheaper than Guatemalans? Trojans.

You really want a Trojan working for you? They'll let just about anyone into your house if that person has a present for them.
You make one mistake, three thousand years ago, and people never let you hear the end of it! They learned their lesson good and hard. Today's Trojans' commitment to security is total. In the words of Yakov Smirnoff, "Individually tested? I want that job!"
 
OK, I have got to say this.

My grandmother worked in service as a cook for the majority of her work life. She never hung her head because there is no shame in a honest days work for a honest days wage. My mother worked many jobs before getting a job in the Postal Service, everything from bookkeeper to day worker. She never hung her head because there is no shame in a honest days work for a honest days wage. Being in service is NOT disgusting, it can be quite ennobling. Hopefully before some of the posters here find themselves old, decrepit and in need of someone else to wipe their asses, they will come to realize that.

AND

Why just white people?
 
OK, I have got to say this.

My grandmother worked in service as a cook for the majority of her work life. She never hung her head because there is no shame in a honest days work for a honest days wage. My mother worked many jobs before getting a job in the Postal Service, everything from bookkeeper to day worker. She never hung her head because there is no shame in a honest days work for a honest days wage. Being in service is NOT disgusting, it can be quite ennobling. Hopefully before some of the posters here find themselves old, decrepit and in need of someone else to wipe their asses, they will come to realize that.

AND

Why just white people?

Because when you stir, you want to stir the deepest pot.
 
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