Should white local people be encouraged to work as domestic servants in order to curb immigration?

[iolo]

Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

I don't understand this. He is providing you with labour for which he is compensated. It is exactly like you are being a good little drone in your office cubicle working for a corporation and getting paid for it. So why a line?

To work for an individual bully is to be a slave.

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Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

Since you would prefer to be either a beggar or a thief, to trading work for honest wages, it seems your copy of the social contract has different text than mine.

My contract specifies that is is bad to choose to be a parasite on society and if I choose to be a beggar or thief, I am a bad person.

All capitalists are parasites on society, living off the backs of others and producing nothing, as you know. Do try to stop talking holy bilge.

 

[ksen]

Since you would prefer to be either a beggar or a thief, to trading work for honest wages, it seems your copy of the social contract has different text than mine.

lol, "honest wages" hasn't been a thing since at least the 1970s.

 

[Bronzeage]

Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

I don't understand this. He is providing you with labour for which he is compensated. It is exactly like you are being a good little drone in your office cubicle working for a corporation and getting paid for it. So why a line?

To work for an individual bully is to be a slave.

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Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

Since you would prefer to be either a beggar or a thief, to trading work for honest wages, it seems your copy of the social contract has different text than mine.

My contract specifies that is is bad to choose to be a parasite on society and if I choose to be a beggar or thief, I am a bad person.

All capitalists are parasites on society, living off the backs of others and producing nothing, as you know. Do try to stop talking holy bilge.

That might be a different discussion, but if you value your personal property as much as anyone, trashing capitalists is hypocritical.

I would like to hear the defense of living on the charity of others, or simply stealing their stuff, within a moral system.

 

[ksen]

I would like to hear the defense of living on the charity of others, or simply stealing their stuff, within a moral system.

You could ask some of them like these guys:

https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/list

 

[Bar-Jesus]

I don't understand this. He is providing you with labour for which he is compensated. It is exactly like you are being a good little drone in your office cubicle working for a corporation and getting paid for it. So why a line?

o
It's not the same, as office work isn't tending to another's personal needs in their home, ie: it is at least 10X Less sickeningly bourgeoisie!

 

[Bar-Jesus]

Some of the what I would call personal assistants or private service labor make far better wages than lots of Walmart or fast food jobs. My parents had good friends who basically were caretakers for a wealthy person's property/house. From everything I heard they loved their near retirement "job". Babysitting, yard services, drivers, house keeping, cooks/chefs, personal trainers are all part of personal services which are pretty normal jobs IMPOV.

no,no, no - these jobs aren't the same as being a servant in the home - far less intimate, far less demeaning

A servant is like a paid slave hanging onto his master's every word, and responding to his or her every whim, whenever and wherever

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My son and daughter in law just hired what we called a domestic who is white. But she is called a home manager.

A domestic cooked and cleaned, shopped for groceries and took care of the kids. A home manager does all of these and the main difference is that they are called home managers.

Perhaps this is the secret, to call the person who does the work a manager. Or better yet, an engineer.

Well I guess if they are dumb enough to fall for that then it's ok!

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Yes, we have Sanitation Engineers that drive by our house once a week

And I actually have a 'girlfriend' who visits me twice a wk (of course I have to slip her 30 bucks on the way out though)

 

[Canard DuJour]

no,no, no - these jobs aren't the same as being a servant in the home - far less intimate, far less demeaning

A servant is like a paid slave hanging onto his master's every word, and responding to his or her every whim, whenever and wherever

Then why is it a good idea to make people who aren't that desperate that desperate?

 

[Bar-Jesus]

how do you mean, clarify please

 

[iolo]

Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

I don't understand this. He is providing you with labour for which he is compensated. It is exactly like you are being a good little drone in your office cubicle working for a corporation and getting paid for it. So why a line?

To work for an individual bully is to be a slave.

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Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

Since you would prefer to be either a beggar or a thief, to trading work for honest wages, it seems your copy of the social contract has different text than mine.

My contract specifies that is is bad to choose to be a parasite on society and if I choose to be a beggar or thief, I am a bad person.

All capitalists are parasites on society, living off the backs of others and producing nothing, as you know. Do try to stop talking holy bilge.

That might be a different discussion, but if you value your personal property as much as anyone, trashing capitalists is hypocritical.

I would like to hear the defense of living on the charity of others, or simply stealing their stuff, within a moral system.

Nothing to do with personal property. Capitalists live by stealing workers' wages, as you know. Anyone else - people who just want to live normally without slaving for instance - costs us thousands of times less than these bloody sharks

 

[Harry Bosch]

Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

I don't understand this. He is providing you with labour for which he is compensated. It is exactly like you are being a good little drone in your office cubicle working for a corporation and getting paid for it. So why a line?

To work for an individual bully is to be a slave.

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Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

- - - Updated - - -

He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

Since you would prefer to be either a beggar or a thief, to trading work for honest wages, it seems your copy of the social contract has different text than mine.

My contract specifies that is is bad to choose to be a parasite on society and if I choose to be a beggar or thief, I am a bad person.

All capitalists are parasites on society, living off the backs of others and producing nothing, as you know. Do try to stop talking holy bilge.

That might be a different discussion, but if you value your personal property as much as anyone, trashing capitalists is hypocritical.

I would like to hear the defense of living on the charity of others, or simply stealing their stuff, within a moral system.

Nothing to do with personal property. Capitalists live by stealing workers' wages, as you know. Anyone else - people who just want to live normally without slaving for instance - costs us thousands of times less than these bloody sharks

Since capitalists are so bad, I'm sure that you could provide us with an example of a country that worked better for it's citizens after it got rid of it's capitalist leeches?

 

[Bar-Jesus]

Soviet Union was fine if you ask me.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

You are doing it wrong.

 

[ksen]

Since capitalists are so bad, I'm sure that you could provide us with an example of a country that worked better for it's citizens after it got rid of it's capitalist leeches?

Iceland

 

[Bronzeage]

That might be a different discussion, but if you value your personal property as much as anyone, trashing capitalists is hypocritical.

I would like to hear the defense of living on the charity of others, or simply stealing their stuff, within a moral system.

Nothing to do with personal property. Capitalists live by stealing workers' wages, as you know. Anyone else - people who just want to live normally without slaving for instance - costs us thousands of times less than these bloody sharks

You seem to have a poor understanding of Capitalism and economics, in general. Capitalism is based on private property and could not exist without it. If you do not understand that part of the system, any more discussion is pointless.

 

[repoman]

Is this what you are beating around the bush about, Bar-Jesus?

 

[whichphilosophy]

Is this what you are beating around the bush about, Bar-Jesus?

Unfortunately the extreme right and left use the race card with respect to economic migration. Few are actual refugees. Many British and European citizens are from different ethnic minorities and also object to the lack of security on the borders. Australia stopped the boats coming with a tough policy on refusing to process anyone who took that route. Meanwhile while politicians do nothing snake direct the boats to Italy Spain, Greece and other locations.

 

[whichphilosophy]

Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

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He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

I don't understand this. He is providing you with labour for which he is compensated. It is exactly like you are being a good little drone in your office cubicle working for a corporation and getting paid for it. So why a line?

To work for an individual bully is to be a slave.

- - - Updated - - -

Someone. obviously, who works directly for one other person, like a body slave.

- - - Updated - - -

He/she is not a personal servant.

Where do you draw the line? If a person employs a cook to work in their home and serve meals, is that disgusting?

Yes

Since you would prefer to be either a beggar or a thief, to trading work for honest wages, it seems your copy of the social contract has different text than mine.

My contract specifies that is is bad to choose to be a parasite on society and if I choose to be a beggar or thief, I am a bad person.

All capitalists are parasites on society, living off the backs of others and producing nothing, as you know. Do try to stop talking holy bilge.

That might be a different discussion, but if you value your personal property as much as anyone, trashing capitalists is hypocritical.

I would like to hear the defense of living on the charity of others, or simply stealing their stuff, within a moral system.

Nothing to do with personal property. Capitalists live by stealing workers' wages, as you know. Anyone else - people who just want to live normally without slaving for instance - costs us thousands of times less than these bloody sharks

Since capitalists are so bad, I'm sure that you could provide us with an example of a country that worked better for it's citizens after it got rid of it's capitalist leeches?

Capitalism in its purest form only benefits a handful of people while the rest are expendable low cost coolies.
Most Europeans have reformed capitalism so that even a moderate factory or office worker no longer needs to live just above or just below the poverty line.

 

[Canard DuJour]

how do you mean, clarify please

What's not to get? You've said welfare should be cut so that "local whites" will go into "demeaning" domestic service.

Why is this a good idea? If immigration is supposed to be "the problem", it's hard to imagine a more oblique solution. It'd make far more sense if you thought welfare was the problem and you were trying to stoke up xenophobia to turn people against it.

Only this isn't The Daily Mail and you've got the wrong audience.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Since capitalists are so bad, I'm sure that you could provide us with an example of a country that worked better for it's citizens after it got rid of it's capitalist leeches?

Iceland

For some reason, Iceland gets a bad rap for being a socialistic state. There are many strong Icelandic privately held companies. Below are some of their biggest companies:

Marel (producer of machinery for the fishing and agricultural industries)

Icelandair Group (airline and hotel chain)

Landsbankinn (the national bank of Iceland)

Alcoa Fjarðarál (aluminum smelter)

Icelandic Group (company in the seafood industry)

Promens (plastics manufacturer)

Samherji ( company in the seafood industry)

Samskip (container shipping company)

 

[Harry Bosch]

Soviet Union was fine if you ask me.

It worked well from some. Not so well for all the others who were thrown into the gulag: teachers, professionals, business owners, and etc. The people didn't have any political rights, right to assemble, right to complain. And they spent their free time waiting in line all day waiting to buy bread. They needed a fence to keep people in. Capitalist countries build a fence to keep people out. I wouldn't have done well in the old USSR!