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This gives me a thought. Will Trump flee to some other country to seek asylum? I'm guessing Russia.

Vladimir Putin could practice his English on him, and Trump could learn some Russian. Like Я хочу кошки (Ja khochu koshki) and Нэнси Пелоси — собака (Nensi Pelosi — sobaka).

Naive translations of "I want some pussy" and "Nancy Pelosi is a bitch".
 

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Speaking of Trump in court...


Former President Donald Trump's presidential campaign has been ordered to pay nearly $1.3 million in legal fees to former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman by a New York court arbitrator.

The award, handed down on Tuesday, comes after Trump filed a complaint against Manigault Newman over her 2018 book, "Unhinged: An Insider's Account of the Trump White House," in which she called Trump a racist and suggested that he was in "real and serious" mental decline.

A source with the Trump campaign told ABC News that Trump intends to appeal the ruling.

It is wonderful to see a grifter get grifted
 

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This gives me a thought. Will Trump flee to some other country to seek asylum? I'm guessing Russia.

Vladimir Putin could practice his English on him, and Trump could learn some Russian. Like Я хочу кошки (Ja khochu koshki) and Нэнси Пелоси — собака (Nensi Pelosi — sobaka).

Naive translations of "I want some pussy" and "Nancy Pelosi is a bitch".
4 years ago I placed my bet on Scotland. I think he has dual citizenship there.. or some heritage birthright or something... he also owns property there (they are trying to close down a golf course he owns there that, you guess it, is hemorrhaging money.. and not just his).
 

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The rants that Trump posted cover a narrow range of topics mainly devoted to his "Big Lie" that the 2020 presidential election was 'rigged" and "stolen" from him. Never mind that after 20 months, and sixty court challenges, he has failed to produce a shred of evidence. What follows are some of his key points, with reality-based annotations:

Trump began by assailing the Republican vice-chair of the Committee as "despicable human being Liz Cheney." As usual, he is incapable of factually rebutting anything that she has said, so he resorts to childish name-calling.

He complained that "HER Fake Unselect Committee may recommend CRIMINAL CHARGES against" him. If he really believes the Committee is "fake," then why is he so worried about the charges?

He repeated his ridiculous boast that he "got more votes than any sitting President." So what? He also got fewer votes than Joe Biden. You know, the winner. And both candidates got large vote totals because the population - and the electorate - are bigger.

He's thinks the Committee should "press charges instead against those that cheated on the Election." They would if that weren't a figment of his perverse imagination. He's tried dozens of times to assert his cheating claim in court. And he lost every case, even those with Republican judges.

Returning to his name-calling, Trump lashed out at "the highly partisan Unselect Committee of political Thugs." Of course, the Committee has two very conservative Republicans. Although there is a partisan aspect to the witnesses who have testified against him. They are all Republicans.

Naturally, he had to unleash his objections to the "Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax # 2, the 'No Collusion' Mueller Report and, overall, the GREATEST WITCH HUNT IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA." True to form, everything that Trump doesn't like is either a hoax or a witch hunt.

He wants the Committee to "go after the people who have been rioting." That's exactly what the Department of Justice is doing. In fact, some 800 of them them have already been arrested for storming Congress and trying to overthrow the government, at Trump's behest.

Then he adds "No, let’s get 'Trump'!" Don't worry, Donald, they'll get around to you. Also, why do you put your own name in quotes, as if it's a fictional reference?

Finally, Trump says that "none of these terrible events would have happened if I were President!!!" First of all, it's good to see him admit that he is not president. But it's preposterous for him to claim that the events he's griping about, most of which he is responsible for, wouldn't have happened were he still occupying the White House. And he was responsible for many other horrendous events when he was there as well.

And that was Trump's 4th of July message to America. That was what his glassy-eyed cult disciples regard as a patriotic address. But then what else would you expect from the guy who refused to visit a war memorial for American soldiers because he considers them to be "losers" and "suckers"?
 

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Is Trump going to do all this from a New York State prison? I can’t imagine he’ll be paroled before 2024. He’ll possibly be facing insurance fraud, criminal tax evasion, grand larceny, and scheming to defraud.

I'm sorry, but you failed to correctly name the charges. See, all those offenses he did are *.-while-white-and-wealthy.

The maximum penalties for these things are "slap on the wrist with a limo noodle".

The fact that you want a rich white man to get a slap on the wrist is dictator level behaviour on par with what Hitler did. :mad:
Its late and I'm in correction mode. It's "what Hitler supporters did."
 

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Is Trump going to do all this from a New York State prison? I can’t imagine he’ll be paroled before 2024. He’ll possibly be facing insurance fraud, criminal tax evasion, grand larceny, and scheming to defraud.

I'm sorry, but you failed to correctly name the charges. See, all those offenses he did are *.-while-white-and-wealthy.

The maximum penalties for these things are "slap on the wrist with a limo noodle".

The fact that you want a rich white man to get a slap on the wrist is dictator level behaviour on par with what Hitler did. :mad:
Its late and I'm in correction mode. It's "what Hitler supporters did."
Hey, Tom, I think you need to fill FDI in on the missed sarcasm.
 

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Former President Trump told ESPN Thursday that "nobody has gotten to the bottom of 9/11" after he was asked about 9/11 survivors and their families who are protesting a Saudi-backed LIV Golf event at one of his golf courses.

Driving the news: "Nobody has gotten to the bottom of 9/11 unfortunately, and they should have," Trump said, calling the people who carried out the terrorist attack "maniacs that did that horrible thing to our city, to our country, to the world."

Flashback: Last year, the FBI released a declassified document from 2016 related to its investigation, which showed Saudi hijackers allegedly received heavy support from Saudi government officials,
The big picture: Families of 9/11 victims have criticized the LIV Golf tour and asked Trump to cancel the event, which the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey is hosting.

  • The families also released an ad that criticized Trump for working with the new golf circuit, the Washington Post reports.
  • “We simply cannot understand how you could agree to accept money from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s golf league to host their tournament at your golf course, and to do so in the shadows of Ground Zero in New Jersey, which lost over 700 residents during the attacks,” the group wrote in a letter to Trump, per the Post.
  • “Were it not for the support that these hijackers received from the Saudi government, then 9/11 would have never happened,” Brett Eagleson, a founder of 9/11 Justice, told The Post.
  • Trump told the Wall Street Journal earlier this week that he "can't really comment" on the 9/11 families "because I don’t know exactly what they're saying, and what they're saying who did what."
I guess Trump's Muslim ban doesn't apply if you have enough money.
 
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Is Trump going to do all this from a New York State prison? I can’t imagine he’ll be paroled before 2024. He’ll possibly be facing insurance fraud, criminal tax evasion, grand larceny, and scheming to defraud.

I'm sorry, but you failed to correctly name the charges. See, all those offenses he did are *.-while-white-and-wealthy.

The maximum penalties for these things are "slap on the wrist with a limo noodle".

The fact that you want a rich white man to get a slap on the wrist is dictator level behaviour on par with what Hitler did. :mad:
To be fair, those were only state charges. The Jan 6 Committee is laying an extremely good federal case against Trump that will preclude him from ever holding office, earn him serious prison time. At this point, Trump has not actually established concentration camps so no he isn’t as bad as Hitler. Yet. Which is why we cannot let him ever ever ever run again for anything.
 

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Almost 2 years of Trump running for president. It is about to start getting weird again.
 

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The Saudi-backed LIV Golf Tour has...brought no shortage of controversy with it....judging by the anemic attendance and super cheap tickets available on StubHub for this weekend’s event at former President Donald Trump’s New Jersey golf club in Bedminster, the controversy has not helped its business....Writing for The Washington Post, Rick Maese reports: "there is no television rights deal...Fewer than 1,000 people were concurrently watching the Facebook Live feed for much of the first two rounds this weekend...On the course...estimates suggested only a few thousand spectators. Tickets...could be had on the secondary market for $1 apiece"
 

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At first I was shocked to learn that Fox Business would turn against His Orange Holiness by show-casing yet another of His Orangeness's defaults. However I assume the story is intended just to scrounge up more cash donations from gullible Trump-suckers. The hosting service supposedly in a bitter battle is itself staunchly right-wing.

After clicking, I learned two more things:
(1) Trump has a "controlling interest" in Truth Social despite investing little or no money. Our beloved 45th President is such a brilliant businessman!
(2) With no clicks from me, the webpage started up TWO copies of some video featuring Karl Rove. The videos were out of sync by about a quarter of a second; this rendered unintelligible, and gave a peculiar thumping character, to whatever Rove was babbling. There probably aren't a lot of competent web programmers in the bat-shit corner of America's political spectrum.
 

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At first I was shocked to learn that Fox Business would turn against His Orange Holiness by show-casing yet another of His Orangeness's defaults. However I assume the story is intended just to scrounge up more cash donations from gullible Trump-suckers. The hosting service supposedly in a bitter battle is itself staunchly right-wing.

After clicking, I learned two more things:
(1) Trump has a "controlling interest" in Truth Social despite investing little or no money. Our beloved 45th President is such a brilliant businessman!
(2) With no clicks from me, the webpage started up TWO copies of some video featuring Karl Rove. The videos were out of sync by about a quarter of a second; this rendered unintelligible, and gave a peculiar thumping character, to whatever Rove was babbling. There probably aren't a lot of competent web programmers in the bat-shit corner of America's political spectrum.
That's because all of the truly intelligent scoundrel programmers know they can make a fuckton more money selling viruses, ransomware, and money/crypto laundering tech on the dark web.

Why throw in with the political idiots when the political idiots don't even pay folks worth a damn?

If you want to just troll people for the lulz, even then there are more effective outlets that will be found by someone with enough brain cells to dereference a pointer.

I mean shit, I can see this and I don't even throw in with the scoundrel factio.
 

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NYT Editorial Board Opinion - Donald Trump Is Not Above the Law

The whole thing is well worth a read but I'll just post the last two paragraphs.

If Mr. Garland decides to pursue prosecution, a message that the Justice Department must send early and often is that even if Mr. Trump genuinely believed, as he claimed, that the election had been marred by fraud, his schemes to interfere in the certification of the vote would still be crimes. And even though Mr. Trump’s efforts failed, these efforts would still be crimes. More than 850 other Americans have already been charged with crimes for their roles in the Capitol attack. Well-meaning intentions did not shield them from the consequences of their actions. It would be unjust if Mr. Trump, the man who inspired them, faced no consequences.

No one should revel in the prospect of this or any former president facing criminal prosecution. Mr. Trump’s actions have brought shame on one of the world’s oldest democracies and destabilized its future. Even justice before the law will not erase that stain. Nor will prosecuting Mr. Trump fix the structural problems that led to the greatest crisis in American democracy since the Civil War. But it is a necessary first step toward doing so.
 

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Trump and the GOP did... and if you read the fine print, they said that most money wasn't ever going to such a cause. Only a fraction of the money raised was going to go to such a defense. They ripped off their supporters, and their supporters are as emboldened as ever to support the people fleecing them.
 

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Former President Donald Trump on Monday took time off from melting down over the FBI executing a search warrant at his home to seize classified documents to demand that he be installed as commander-in-chief of the United States—22 months after he decisively lost the 2020 race.

The twice-impeached ex-president, though, did propose a “minimal solution” if he is not returned to the White House right away: Declare the 2020 vote “irreparably compromised” and hold a new one “immediately.”
Delusional.
 

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“King Carlson” claims to be “Commander-in-Chief” of the “United States Armed Forces Civilian Command.” He claims he was awarded this position after a failed coup attempt “by the Clinton cartel to overthrow the election of Donald Trump. The military then stepped in and made sure that Donald Trump actually took office.”
The military then allegedly showed its gratitude by making him King of America and commander-in-chief. He offers no evidence to support his contention.

Go away Trump! We have a new king!
 

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^^^ That font color doesn't work well for people using After Dark Blue mode.
 

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Former President Donald Trump on Monday took time off from melting down over the FBI executing a search warrant at his home to seize classified documents to demand that he be installed as commander-in-chief of the United States—22 months after he decisively lost the 2020 race.

The twice-impeached ex-president, though, did propose a “minimal solution” if he is not returned to the White House right away: Declare the 2020 vote “irreparably compromised” and hold a new one “immediately.”
Delusional.
More like nuckin' futs.
 

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This gives me a thought. Will Trump flee to some other country to seek asylum? I'm guessing Russia.

I was thinking Saudi Arabia, but Russia would do.

Of course, it might be difficult to convince either country to take him in, his presence being a diplomatic albatross around the neck of his host... they might not consider it unless he had something valuable to barter for asylum.

... on that note, are we sure the Feds got all the classified intel out of Mar-a-Lago?
 

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Jared Kushner is telling his side of the story in a new book. It has met with derision, for example:
Natasha Noman said:
“Usually I avoid engaging in futile arguments, but this was enough. I could feel my voice rise,” [Jared Kushner] writes, describing a particularly tense moment with then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Tillerson bitterly opposed Kushner’s handling of the Middle East and, specifically, his suggestion that the U.S. embassy in Israel be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem — a decision decried by many policy experts as “reckless.” “My words had stung. The former oil titan was growing more frazzled and insecure, so I softened my tone.” So goes the biting account of a big boy who put an oil titan in his place.
 

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This gives me a thought. Will Trump flee to some other country to seek asylum? I'm guessing Russia.

I was thinking Saudi Arabia, but Russia would do.

Of course, it might be difficult to convince either country to take him in, his presence being a diplomatic albatross around the neck of his host... they might not consider it unless he had something valuable to barter for asylum.

... on that note, are we sure the Feds got all the classified intel out of Mar-a-Lago?
Well, there is this:

F.B.I. Found 48 Empty Folders That Had Contained Classified Documents at Trump’s Home​


 

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Reputed attorney-stiffer Donald Trump once tried to pay a lawyer with a horse, according to a new book by The New York Times’ David Enrich.
In a segment of “Servants of the Damned: Giant Law Firms, Donald Trump and the Corruption of Justice” reported Monday by the Guardian, Trump owed $2 million to “a lawyer at a white-shoe firm” in the 1990s.

The lawyer showed up unannounced at Trump Tower to confront Trump.
″‘I’m not going to pay your bill. I’m going to give you something more valuable,’ Trump replied, according to the book, due out later this month. “What on earth is he talking about? the lawyer wondered. ‘I have a stallion,’ Trump continued. ‘It’s worth $5 million.’ Trump rummaged around in a filing cabinet and pulled out what he said was a deed to a horse. He handed it to the lawyer.”

“This isn’t the 1800s. You can’t pay me with a horse,” the stunned attorney replied, threatening to sue.
Trump eventually “eventually coughed up at least a portion of what he owed,” the author wrote.
 

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What's next for Trump? Should be medication and therapy.

A short while ago, he took to Pravda Social to demand he be made President again:

This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!

He spent part of the holiday today crafting this gem:
Now that the FBI and DOJ have been caught in a massive and determinative Election Rigging Scam, are they going to change the results of the 2020 Presidential Election? They should!!!

He's at the "okay, grandpa...now let's get you in the car so you don't miss your appointment" stage.
 

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On Truth Social, Trump Embraces Far-Right Conspiracy Theories - The New York Times - "The former president’s activity on his social network, Truth Social, openly promotes far-right and conspiratorial ideas that are usually confined to corners of the internet."
n a 24-hour period this week, former President Donald J. Trump posted to his social media platform, Truth Social, 88 times, amplifying one conspiracy theory after another.

Among his unsupported claims: A retiring F.B.I. agent was behind both the search of his Mar-a-Lago property on Aug. 8 and the investigation into his campaign’s possible ties to Russia; a forthcoming report will prove widespread corruption against his 2016 campaign; and he should be reinstalled as president because the 2020 election was fraudulent.

“Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!” he wrote.
Like claiming that Barack Obama was not born in the US and dismissing investigations of him as partisan witch hunts. That last one reminds me of how Rush Limbaugh would claim that criticisms of him were efforts to shut him up.
He shared a flurry of 61 posts written by Truth Social users, many of whom had ties to QAnon, an online conspiracy movement aligned with the former president. One post included “the storm,” which QAnon followers use to describe the day when the movement’s enemies will be violently punished.

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Mr. Trump is well known for spending hours tuned in to Fox News. Some of his posts in the past week, including his call to be reinstalled as president, have received regular attention on the network.

But his posts suggest that he is increasingly attuned to voices in far-right and fringe publications that are even friendlier to his cause.
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He also shared an article from American Thinker, a conservative site that had posted conspiracy theories about the 2020 election that it later retracted, claiming the F.B.I. was “a campaign arm of the Democrat Party.”
I remember American Thinker having an article about George Soros and how that financier's speculations ruined a large number of people's retirement savings. I read that and I thought about how left-wing it seems. Because a proper right-wing response would be to say that those savings losers deserved their losses for being bad investors and that GS deserves his wealth because he is a much better investor than them. Yet another case of right-wingers sounding like left-wingers when they think it expedient for them to do so.
 

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What's next for Trump? Should be medication and therapy.

A short while ago, he took to Pravda Social to demand he be made President again:

This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country. REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!
I hereby declare the rightful winner of the 2020 election to be Biden.
 

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He's at the "okay, grandpa...now let's get you in the car so you don't miss your appointment" stage.
He's at the "Don't try to chew through the restraints, you'll just hurt your teeth and make us muzzle you again" stage.
They will need to position such that the trap comes down quickly on them from an unexpected angle.

If the final jaws of justice do not come down in such a way, Trump is exactly the kind of person who would try to threaten the one sided suicide pact with everyone.

Part of me worries that they rummaged through to find the absolute most damaging thing they could, and put it somewhere that it gets released from, should something happen to them.

The fact is, Twitler needs to be executed for this.

For Mierde-lardo, for having accessed state secrets and given them/exposed them to foreign interests and for mishandling nuclear secrets and for leading a violent insurrection against both houses of Congress to overturn a fair election.

There is no way to contain that kind of abusive power short of death.
 

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A federal grand jury investigating the activities leading up the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol and the push by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the result of the 2020 election has expanded its probe to include seeking information about Trump's leadership PAC, Save America, sources with direct knowledge tell ABC News.

The interest in the fundraising arm came to light as part of grand jury subpoenas seeking documents, records and testimony from potential witnesses, the sources said.

The subpoenas, sent to several individuals in recent weeks, are specifically seeking to understand the timeline of Save America's formation, the organization's fundraising activities, and how money is both received and spent by the Trump-aligned PAC.
Another grift to go down.
 

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A federal grand jury investigating the activities leading up the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol and the push by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the result of the 2020 election has expanded its probe to include seeking information about Trump's leadership PAC, Save America, sources with direct knowledge tell ABC News.

The interest in the fundraising arm came to light as part of grand jury subpoenas seeking documents, records and testimony from potential witnesses, the sources said.

The subpoenas, sent to several individuals in recent weeks, are specifically seeking to understand the timeline of Save America's formation, the organization's fundraising activities, and how money is both received and spent by the Trump-aligned PAC.
Another grift to go down.

... another thing that leaves me feeling totally in the dark.

Bannon was indicted for his grift, lying that he was collecting money to build The Wall while pocketing funds and using them otherwise.
Trump has been collecting HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS on his Stop The Steal grift. Shouldn't he at least be required to show that
1) there was ever a steal in the first place, and
2) that all that money went to stop it?

We all know The Big Lie is a lie. So how is Trump's grift not massive fraud?
 

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4 years ago I placed my bet on Scotland. I think he has dual citizenship there.. or some heritage birthright or something... he also owns property there (they are trying to close down a golf course he owns there that, you guess it, is hemorrhaging money.. and not just his).
Is that why he had the Queen murdered? :unsure:
 

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It still bothers me that this penultimate assclown narcissist wannabe fascist garners so much attention.
 

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