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It took just a few hours for the baseless claim about the antifa bogeyman to spread throughout the entire right-wing media ecosystem.

Just after 2:30 on Wednesday afternoon, Trump supporters in DC for a mass “Stop the Steal” protest began smashing windows and trying to enter the northwest corner of the Capitol Building, outside the House chamber. Some of those observing, clearly uneasy with the violent turn their protest had taken, did the first thing that came to mind: They blamed antifa.

“Antifa, is that antifa? Get them out of there,” one Trump supporter shouted. Within seconds, that baseless allegation rippled out through the crowd as others repeated the accusation—a real-time, real-world example of disinformation traveling and spreading.

And in the hours since that moment of cognitive dissonance took place, the effort to blame antifa for Wednesday’s insurrection has grown louder. First it was boosted online by far-right extremists and QAnon supporters, and then by Republican lawmakers such as Rep. Paul Gosar and Rep. Matt Gaetz, high-profile conservative figures like Candace Owens and Sarah Palin, and finally by right-wing media outlets.

This effort took place despite images of the attack being broadcast across the globe, clearly showing those breaking into the Capitol were wearing Trump hats and shirts, waving Trump flags, and telling any reporter who would listen about their support for the president.

A standout example that the people involved in the attack on Capitol Hill yesterday were pro-Trump was Jake Angeli, the bare-chested Arizona man who posed for selfies inside the House chamber dressed in a buffalo horn helmet.

Angeli is a well-known figure within the QAnon community who goes by the nickname “Q Shaman,” but within hours of his picture being broadcast around the globe as the face of the attack, far-right extremists began throwing him under the bus, claiming he was in fact an antifa operative.

This was based on a picture claiming to show Angeli at a Black Lives Matter protest, but the image has been flagged by Twitter for being manipulated.
 

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Yeah, like, the only situation pointing out a "plant" works are when it's clearly a plant (out of place in the situation), and when the rest of the crowd is not likely to do the things you need the plant to do.

When the whole crowd is already covered with shitty tattoos and neck beards, brings their own pipe bombs, and carries their own firearms illegally, who needs plants?
 

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If it was antifa at the Capitol, why did Trump say he loves them?

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Some of the people pushing the “it was antifa!!” conspiracy theory suggest one of the people in the capital had a hammer&sickle tattoo, an obvious communist. Actually looking at the picture shows it is a symbol from the video game Dishonored 2

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The GOP is so deeply corrupt that it knows only to lie as a way of covering up all the past lies that led up to this sickening event. Mitt Romney is such an outlier as to make the mass of GOP senators and congressmen look like pygmies. I don't think there's much hope for the party, and in one generation they'll be gone from demographics alone. A lot of the crazy comes from the sunset mode they're stuck in. They've got a base that's radicalized as hell, boiling in conspiracy theories, and a donor class that will keep on demanding more protection of wealth. How they expect to grab the 15 or 20% of the 'independent' vote they need to win elections is the quandary. They better hope that gerrymandering and vote suppression tactics keep working for them. Expect them to shriek like stuck piggies if the John Lewis Voting Rights Act goes through.
 

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How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?

True. The amount of fingerpointing at bogeymen is pretty deranged. The mainstream media has done a really bad job of dismissing Antifa as "just an idea, not an organization". Or repeating the canard that they are simply "against fascists".
 

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How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?

Whataboutism, whataboutism whataboutism.

Not to mention that BLM was always primarily peaceful with behavioral outliers. The DC attack was anything but; in fact it was a premeditated assault, as evidenced by the fact that in building built to be a maze, with no doors marked, they managed to selectively trash the offices of democrats without touching the offices of republicans.

Imagine of you told me "one room in this house has a million dollars buried in the back wall, go find it!"

My search pattern would be very different if I knew vs if I didn't, which room had the money hidden: I would proceed systematically in a brute force methodology were I not to know. I would, on average, end up trashing fully half the rooms and potentially more than one wall in every failed search room.

Conversely, if I somehow had cheated and had planned it in advance with knowledge, I would expect one wall in exactly one room to be busted out.

Here we have the latter scenario: Terrorists didn't trash or even enter the Turtle's office. Terrorists didn't break in on Lindsey Graham's private sanctum. But they knew right where to go for Pelosi and Schumer's office.

It's almost like this was a coordinated attack.
 

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How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?

Well, videos of right wing thugs dressed in tactical black, breaking windows and inciting violence at BLM protests give credence to those claims ... no such thing has emerged from the right wing violent extremist assault on the Nation's Capitol showing BLMers egging them on... nor did "antifa" ever (to my knowledge) ask their "members" (followers?) to riot, attack police and kill lawmakers, disrupt federal government functions .... what Jarhyn said.

Oh I know you're just trying to drag discussion away from what actually happened here Derec because it makes"your side" look bad.
If it's any consolation, your side ALWAYS looks bad.
 

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How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?
Well, often those "false flag" claims are accompanied by arrests of right-wing zealots.
 

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Whataboutism, whataboutism whataboutism.

Not to mention that BLM was always primarily peaceful with behavioral outliers. The DC attack was anything but; in fact it was a premeditated assault, as evidenced by the fact that in building built to be a maze, with no doors marked, they managed to selectively trash the offices of democrats without touching the offices of republicans.

Imagine of you told me "one room in this house has a million dollars buried in the back wall, go find it!"

My search pattern would be very different if I knew vs if I didn't, which room had the money hidden: I would proceed systematically in a brute force methodology were I not to know. I would, on average, end up trashing fully half the rooms and potentially more than one wall in every failed search room.

Conversely, if I somehow had cheated and had planned it in advance with knowledge, I would expect one wall in exactly one room to be busted out.

Here we have the latter scenario: Terrorists didn't trash or even enter the Turtle's office. Terrorists didn't break in on Lindsey Graham's private sanctum. But they knew right where to go for Pelosi and Schumer's office.

It's almost like this was a coordinated attack.

Anyway, is Trump legally culpable for trashing the Senate chamber? It was a Trump property.

How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?

Well, videos of right wing thugs dressed in tactical black, breaking windows and inciting violence at BLM protests give credence to those claims ... no such thing has emerged from the right wing violent extremist assault on the Nation's Capitol showing BLMers egging them on... nor did "antifa" ever (to my knowledge) ask their "members" (followers?) to riot, attack police and kill lawmakers, disrupt federal government functions .... what Jarhyn said.

Oh I know you're just trying to drag discussion away from what actually happened here Derec because it makes"your side" look bad.
If it's any consolation, your side ALWAYS looks bad.

How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?
Well, often those "false flag" claims are accompanied by arrests of right-wing zealots.
So, now that we've thoroughly answered the 'how is that different', will it make a difference?

Enquiring minds and all that. ;)
 

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How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?
Well, often those "false flag" claims are accompanied by arrests of right-wing zealots.

Yup. When it's the other side getting arrested it's likely false flag. The other indicator to look for is the people involved at the time pointing out the bad guys and saying they're not with us.
 

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How is that different than people on here claiming "false flag" for every Antifa or #BLM act of violence, even those committed in Antfa strongholds like Portland and Seattle?
Well, often those "false flag" claims are accompanied by arrests of right-wing zealots.

Yup. When it's the other side getting arrested it's likely false flag. The other indicator to look for is the people involved at the time pointing out the bad guys and saying they're not with us.

Yeah, like, that shit was realtime. People were confronting the false flags amid the protests, pointing them out. Pointing out their social media saying they were going. Pointing them out to the FBI and police where their unmarked, plateless cars sat in hotel parking lots.

The fact is, it happened.

I might note that the same people who usually blame every conservative action on leftists under absurd false flag claims were the ones planning a false flag attack.

Funny how that works.
 

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It took just a few hours for the baseless claim about the antifa bogeyman to spread throughout the entire right-wing media ecosystem.

Just after 2:30 on Wednesday afternoon, Trump supporters in DC for a mass “Stop the Steal” protest began smashing windows and trying to enter the northwest corner of the Capitol Building, outside the House chamber. Some of those observing, clearly uneasy with the violent turn their protest had taken, did the first thing that came to mind: They blamed antifa.

“Antifa, is that antifa? Get them out of there,” one Trump supporter shouted. Within seconds, that baseless allegation rippled out through the crowd as others repeated the accusation—a real-time, real-world example of disinformation traveling and spreading.

And in the hours since that moment of cognitive dissonance took place, the effort to blame antifa for Wednesday’s insurrection has grown louder. First it was boosted online by far-right extremists and QAnon supporters, and then by Republican lawmakers such as Rep. Paul Gosar and Rep. Matt Gaetz, high-profile conservative figures like Candace Owens and Sarah Palin, and finally by right-wing media outlets.

This effort took place despite images of the attack being broadcast across the globe, clearly showing those breaking into the Capitol were wearing Trump hats and shirts, waving Trump flags, and telling any reporter who would listen about their support for the president.

A standout example that the people involved in the attack on Capitol Hill yesterday were pro-Trump was Jake Angeli, the bare-chested Arizona man who posed for selfies inside the House chamber dressed in a buffalo horn helmet.

Angeli is a well-known figure within the QAnon community who goes by the nickname “Q Shaman,” but within hours of his picture being broadcast around the globe as the face of the attack, far-right extremists began throwing him under the bus, claiming he was in fact an antifa operative.

This was based on a picture claiming to show Angeli at a Black Lives Matter protest, but the image has been flagged by Twitter for being manipulated.

Well, to be fair, he is now sitting in jail not eating because they won't bring him organic food. That alone is pretty anti-Trump. So probably he's antifa and he infiltrated the Qanon movement and secretly drinks soy milk every day.
 

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Interesting. I didn't watch too much of the protest, but I'm sure if there had been then it would have been constantly on almost every news channel.

"Look, this one guy with a molotov, he is all of them and they are all just like him."
 

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Interesting. I didn't watch too much of the protest, but I'm sure if there had been then it would have been constantly on almost every news channel.

"Look, this one guy with a molotov, he is all of them and they are all just like him."

We all know that the "news" you watch wouldn't have played anything about it in the first place. In fact that it didn't play anything about that, on account of you not knowing. The rest of us have been aware for over a mo th that people brought loaded weapons into a statehouse, and that there were Molotovs and pipe bombs brought in.
 

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Interesting. I didn't watch too much of the protest, but I'm sure if there had been then it would have been constantly on almost every news channel.

"Look, this one guy with a molotov, he is all of them and they are all just like him."

We all know that the "news" you watch wouldn't have played anything about it in the first place. In fact that it didn't play anything about that, on account of you not knowing. The rest of us have been aware for over a mo th that people brought loaded weapons into a statehouse, and that there were Molotovs and pipe bombs brought in.
Also, what's the over/under on the minimum number of people that have to have weapons at a riot for it to 'count'? I suspect the count is melanin based, eh?
 

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Interesting. I didn't watch too much of the protest, but I'm sure if there had been then it would have been constantly on almost every news channel.

"Look, this one guy with a molotov, he is all of them and they are all just like him."

We all know that the "news" you watch wouldn't have played anything about it in the first place. In fact that it didn't play anything about that, on account of you not knowing. The rest of us have been aware for over a mo th that people brought loaded weapons into a statehouse, and that there were Molotovs and pipe bombs brought in.
Also, what's the over/under on the minimum number of people that have to have weapons at a riot for it to 'count'? I suspect the count is melanin based, eh?

You also have to factor in the time decay. Black Panthers with sticks in the 1970s are scarier than white supremacist terrorists with molotovs and guns today, even though we’re closer to 2070 than 1970.
 

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Also, what's the over/under on the minimum number of people that have to have weapons at a riot for it to 'count'? I suspect the count is melanin based, eh?

You also have to factor in the time decay. Black Panthers with sticks in the 1970s are scarier than white supremacist terrorists with molotovs and guns today, even though we’re closer to 2070 than 1970.

Of course the two of you think that. For you two everything is melanin based, which is why to you two everyone else is racist.
 

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Also, what's the over/under on the minimum number of people that have to have weapons at a riot for it to 'count'? I suspect the count is melanin based, eh?

You also have to factor in the time decay. Black Panthers with sticks in the 1970s are scarier than white supremacist terrorists with molotovs and guns today, even though we’re closer to 2070 than 1970.

Of course the two of you think that. For you two everything is melanin based, which is why to you two everyone else is racist.

When some individuals excuse molotovs from given race A today, and rant about sticks from given race B in decades past, and I point that out - it's not me basing everything on melanin. If you think that the 'news' that Jarhyn is referencing doesn't do that then I'll gladly provide examples to make you eat crow.

Do me a favor and point to any post of mine where I propose such a thing <Insulting Language removed>.
 
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Of course the two of you think that. For you two everything is melanin based, which is why to you two everyone else is racist.

When some individuals excuse molotovs from given race A today, and rant about sticks from given race B in decades past, and I point that out - it's not me basing everything on melanin. If you think that the 'news' that Jarhyn is referencing doesn't do that then I'll gladly provide examples to make you eat crow.

Do me a favor and point to any post of mine where I propose such a thing <Consistency edit.>.

I didn't mention race when I mentioned molotovs. Antifa is mostly white college kids from upper-middle class backgrounds. YOU dragged melanin into this, because it is what you think of, which is why everyone else is racist.

Antifa isn't a race, it is a loose confederation of groups pretending it is just an idea.
 
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Of course the two of you think that. For you two everything is melanin based, which is why to you two everyone else is racist.

When some individuals excuse molotovs from given race A today, and rant about sticks from given race B in decades past, and I point that out - it's not me basing everything on melanin. If you think that the 'news' that Jarhyn is referencing doesn't do that then I'll gladly provide examples to make you eat crow.

Do me a favor and point to any post of mine where I propose such a thing <Consistency edit.>.

I didn't mention race when I mentioned molotovs. Antifa is mostly white college kids from upper-middle class backgrounds. YOU dragged melanin into this, because it is what you think of, which is why everyone else is racist.

Antifa isn't a race, it is a loose confederation of groups pretending it is just an idea.

Try reading the post you're talking about. The quote chain starts with the 'news' organizations, an over under is provided on the count, and I noted the obvious rubric that such 'news organizations' use.

To wit https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-black-panters-philly-2012-11

Somehow, you use that to insinuate that I'm a racist (and also a secret Antifa agent). The veracity of this is questionable, but I think I'm somehow supposed to accept it as an alternate opinion about reality for fear of hurting people's feelings.
 

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I suppose by pointing out that you brought race into it when race wasn't in it before, that could be considered insinuating you're a racist. There are very likely many explanations for why you would drag race into it.
 

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I didn't mention race when I mentioned molotovs. Antifa is mostly white college kids from upper-middle class backgrounds. YOU dragged melanin into this, because it is what you think of, which is why everyone else is racist.

Antifa isn't a race, it is a loose confederation of groups pretending it is just an idea.

Try reading the post you're talking about. The quote chain starts with the 'news' organizations, an over under is provided on the count, and I noted the obvious rubric that such 'news organizations' use.

To wit https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-black-panters-philly-2012-11

Somehow, you use that to insinuate that I'm a racist (and also a secret Antifa agent). The veracity of this is questionable, but I think I'm somehow supposed to accept it as an alternate opinion about reality for fear of hurting people's feelings.

For the record, I am a secret Antifa agent. :)
 

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If you are an Antifa agent, do you know the other two?

That information is classified. Above top secret. :cool:

Let's just say... very bad things would happen to me if the fellas at the ANTIFAB (Antifa Bureau) found out I had divulged that information (and no, our organization is not anti-fabulous. In fact, it is quite fabulous).
 

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Made up shit said:
Antifa is mostly white college kids from upper-middle class backgrounds.

Yes, and they're so good at keeping secrets that to this day, nobody knows that Antifa is a non-existent organization.
But keep on pulling "facts" out of your ass, Jason. You're so good at it!
 

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Made up shit said:
Antifa is mostly white college kids from upper-middle class backgrounds.

Yes, and they're so good at keeping secrets that to this day, nobody knows that Antifa is a non-existent organization.
But keep on pulling "facts" out of your ass, Jason. You're so good at it!

I forgot that according to you an organization only exists if it has bylaws, a charter, dues, and membership cards.
 

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Made up shit said:
Antifa is mostly white college kids from upper-middle class backgrounds.

Yes, and they're so good at keeping secrets that to this day, nobody knows that Antifa is a non-existent organization.
But keep on pulling "facts" out of your ass, Jason. You're so good at it!

I forgot that according to you an organization only exists if it has bylaws, a charter, dues, and membership cards.

One of the fundamental parts about being an "organization" is that it is, in some way, organized.

Antifa has no organizational structure.

Do you think "furry" is an organization, too?
 

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Come to Seattle and witness the violence and destruction perpetrated by the extreme left.

Mainstream media soft pedals ANTIFA as nothing, we know different here.
 

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I suppose by pointing out that you brought race into it when race wasn't in it before, that could be considered insinuating you're a racist. There are very likely many explanations for why you would drag race into it.

Quote the post or it didn't happen. Also, make sure you are quoting a post that says what you are claiming here, you have a horrible track record of both failing to quote posts when you are accusing someone of something, as well as those posts saying the thing you claim.

In sort, no one believes you when you characterize the posts of others, so you are going to need to show receipts.
 

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Come to Seattle and witness the violence and destruction perpetrated by the extreme left.

Mainstream media soft pedals ANTIFA as nothing, we know different here.

Isn't that kinda like the southern states and the KKK screaming bloody murder because the northern states dare fight against slavery?
 

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Come to Seattle and witness the violence and destruction perpetrated by the extreme left.

Mainstream media soft pedals ANTIFA as nothing, we know different here.

Isn't that kinda like the southern states and the KKK screaming bloody murder because the northern states dare fight against slavery?

One of my best friends works and lives in Seattle and I ask them regularly about what is going on over there and he consistently indicates media reports are overblown.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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I suppose by pointing out that you brought race into it when race wasn't in it before, that could be considered insinuating you're a racist. There are very likely many explanations for why you would drag race into it.

Quote the post or it didn't happen. Also, make sure you are quoting a post that says what you are claiming here, you have a horrible track record of both failing to quote posts when you are accusing someone of something, as well as those posts saying the thing you claim.

In sort, no one believes you when you characterize the posts of others, so you are going to need to show receipts.

Here's the post I wrote that Jahryn responded to. Note, I said nothing about skin color.

Interesting. I didn't watch too much of the protest, but I'm sure if there had been then it would have been constantly on almost every news channel.

"Look, this one guy with a molotov, he is all of them and they are all just like him."

This is Jahryn's response to my post where he tells me what news channels I watch.

We all know that the "news" you watch wouldn't have played anything about it in the first place. In fact that it didn't play anything about that, on account of you not knowing. The rest of us have been aware for over a mo th that people brought loaded weapons into a statehouse, and that there were Molotovs and pipe bombs brought in.

This is Worldtraveler's response. He introduced race into the discussion when replying to Jahryn.

Also, what's the over/under on the minimum number of people that have to have weapons at a riot for it to 'count'? I suspect the count is melanin based, eh?

Yeah, see, my post didn't talk about race at all. Worldtraveler introduced the concept when he said some count (he didn't specify which one) is based on melanin.

After that, Deepak went in a weird direction, because although I was talking about Antifa, he decided I must have been talking about Black Panthers.

You also have to factor in the time decay. Black Panthers with sticks in the 1970s are scarier than white supremacist terrorists with molotovs and guns today, even though we’re closer to 2070 than 1970.

I'm not sure how he got to that conclusion. I suspect that he had to dig deep into history to find a group with a racial component that used Molotovs, and therefore was able to declare from on high that I must have been talking about that group instead of Antifa. Except it is clear I was talking about Antifa. I wrote that the lack of Molotovs was proof Antifa wasn't involved.

After Worldtraveler and Deepak said it was a racial issue, I pointed out that they introduced race because that is what they think about, and that is how we know they aren't racist. To them everything is race which is how we know they aren't racist.

There you go. Receipts. You can clearly see who brought race into the discussion, and that it wasn't me. I don't talk about race much, which is how it is possible for posters like Worldtraveler and Deepak to make accusations of racism against me. Only those who are obsessed with race aren't racist.
 
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Here's the post I wrote that Jahryn responded to. Note, I said nothing about skin color.

Interesting. I didn't watch too much of the protest, but I'm sure if there had been then it would have been constantly on almost every news channel.

"Look, this one guy with a molotov, he is all of them and they are all just like him."

This is Jahryn's response to my post where he tells me what news channels I watch.

We all know that the "news" you watch wouldn't have played anything about it in the first place. In fact that it didn't play anything about that, on account of you not knowing. The rest of us have been aware for over a mo th that people brought loaded weapons into a statehouse, and that there were Molotovs and pipe bombs brought in.

This is Worldtraveler's response. He introduced race into the discussion when replying to Jahryn.

Also, what's the over/under on the minimum number of people that have to have weapons at a riot for it to 'count'? I suspect the count is melanin based, eh?

Yeah, see, my post didn't talk about race at all. Worldtraveler introduced the concept when he said some count (he didn't specify which one) is based on melanin.

After that, Deepak went in a weird direction, because although I was talking about Antifa, he decided I must have been talking about Black Panthers.

You also have to factor in the time decay. Black Panthers with sticks in the 1970s are scarier than white supremacist terrorists with molotovs and guns today, even though we’re closer to 2070 than 1970.

I'm not sure how he got to that conclusion. I suspect that he had to dig deep into history to find a group with a racial component that used Molotovs, and therefore was able to declare from on high that I must have been talking about that group instead of Antifa. Except it is clear I was talking about Antifa. I wrote that the lack of Molotovs was proof Antifa wasn't involved.

After Worldtraveler and Deepak said it was a racial issue, I pointed out that they introduced race because that is what they think about, and that is how we know they aren't racist. To them everything is race which is how we know they aren't racist.

There you go. Receipts. You can clearly see who brought race into the discussion, and that it wasn't me. I don't talk about race much, which is how it is possible for posters like Worldtraveler and Deepak to make accusations of racism against me. Only those who are obsessed with race aren't racist.

Way to cover your tracks there, when it was Deepak you accused of bringing race into the discussion, and in getting you to quote the posts you discovered that it wasn't Deepak who brought it up. Of course, you could not admit that you were wrong about that, so you had to throw Jarhyn, Worldtraveller, and Deepak's quotes all into one post to try to obfuscate the issue. Sorry, it didn't work, Deepak did not bring race into the discussion. This is why so many people do not trust you to engage in honest discussion here.

Also, I suspect the reason that Deepak brought up the Black Panthers is because Derec has also been involved in this thread, and Derec just loves to talk about the Black Panthers when it comes to this issue. It is just a suspicion, however, so I will let Deepak answer for himself if he cares to do so.
 

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Here's the post I wrote that Jahryn responded to. Note, I said nothing about skin color.



This is Jahryn's response to my post where he tells me what news channels I watch.



This is Worldtraveler's response. He introduced race into the discussion when replying to Jahryn.

Also, what's the over/under on the minimum number of people that have to have weapons at a riot for it to 'count'? I suspect the count is melanin based, eh?

Yeah, see, my post didn't talk about race at all. Worldtraveler introduced the concept when he said some count (he didn't specify which one) is based on melanin.

After that, Deepak went in a weird direction, because although I was talking about Antifa, he decided I must have been talking about Black Panthers.

You also have to factor in the time decay. Black Panthers with sticks in the 1970s are scarier than white supremacist terrorists with molotovs and guns today, even though we’re closer to 2070 than 1970.

I'm not sure how he got to that conclusion. I suspect that he had to dig deep into history to find a group with a racial component that used Molotovs, and therefore was able to declare from on high that I must have been talking about that group instead of Antifa. Except it is clear I was talking about Antifa. I wrote that the lack of Molotovs was proof Antifa wasn't involved.

After Worldtraveler and Deepak said it was a racial issue, I pointed out that they introduced race because that is what they think about, and that is how we know they aren't racist. To them everything is race which is how we know they aren't racist.

There you go. Receipts. You can clearly see who brought race into the discussion, and that it wasn't me. I don't talk about race much, which is how it is possible for posters like Worldtraveler and Deepak to make accusations of racism against me. Only those who are obsessed with race aren't racist.

Way to cover your tracks there, when it was Deepak you accused of bringing race into the discussion, and in getting you to quote the posts you discovered that it wasn't Deepak who brought it up. Of course, you could not admit that you were wrong about that, so you had to throw Jarhyn, Worldtraveller, and Deepak's quotes all into one post to try to obfuscate the issue. Sorry, it didn't work, Deepak did not bring race into the discussion. This is why so many people do not trust you to engage in honest discussion here.

Also, I suspect the reason that Deepak brought up the Black Panthers is because Derec has also been involved in this thread, and Derec just loves to talk about the Black Panthers when it comes to this issue. It is just a suspicion, however, so I will let Deepak answer for himself if he cares to do so.

More, I think JH is panicking because WT is correct.

Jason isn't fooling anyone with his dog whistles and selective language.

JH is in yet another thread wherein he is attempting to steer conversation away from the fact that JH still has yet to make any posts about white conservatives behaving badly. They have all this wide open space, they could run for miles with the ball on how CPAC made their center stage an Odal rune, or even just make the public statement "the January 6th insurrection was an attempted GOP coup", or even something as simple as "white nationalist terrorism is a problem".

They have not. They will not. I suspect that if they did, they would probably see their pay docked.
 

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The fact that you had to resort to saying there are dog whistles is itself an admission that the content you seek isn't there. I did not mention race. World Traveler and Deepak brought it up.

Their obsession with race is, of course, proof that they aren't racists.

By the way, only dogs can hear dog whistles.
 
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