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The Rise and Fall of the “Freest Little City in Texas”

They had this glorious dream about incorporating so they could be "free" from the clutches of big government. But as a group they lacked the intellect to appreciate the fact that the freedom they enjoyed was directly the result of the big government they loathed. They failed to realize that freedom isn't free.

Beyond that it sounds like your typical, small town, inbred, provincial, emotional mentality where what you don't know really can hurt you.
 
Thanks to Unter for sharing this on Facebook. I thought it would be good for discussion here.

https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/

Unless it had the best little whorehouse in Texas, I do not think it can qualify as "freest".

"free" in this case meaning "Free from taxes" I suspect.

Turns out, you need taxes to pay for the things that would have attracted businesses to make up the tax shortfall to begin with. What a crazy cycle.
 
Unless it had the best little whorehouse in Texas, I do not think it can qualify as "freest".

"free" in this case meaning "Free from taxes" I suspect.

Turns out, you need taxes to pay for the things that would have attracted businesses to make up the tax shortfall to begin with. What a crazy cycle.
How does a town with a population of 1300 finance a police force, fire department and all the other services people enjoy? How do you even begin to expect that you can have sufficient revenue without collecting taxes? And they accepted federal grant money to do the very things they loathed.

This town clearly has a bipolar streak running through the population. This is what happens when idealism runs amok among not-so-smart people.

Right wing Idealists like to forget that the tit they're feeding on is attached to a gigantic liberal hog.
 
What a joke! They expect the services a city provides but they don't want to tax to get the money to pay for them. No wonder it collapsed.
 
It's a wonder no businesses flocked here given how free they were: free of sewage facilities, police, services, fire services...
 
It's a wonder no businesses flocked here given how free they were: free of sewage facilities, police, services, fire services...
You're forgetting that the libertopian free market magically and instantly takes care of all that icky stuff.
 
Thanks to Unter for sharing this on Facebook. I thought it would be good for discussion here.

https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/

I find it interesting that they acknowledge they need taxes to provide services. What is the rationalization of "sales taxes" being ok while "property taxes" are bad?

It's ok to tax tourists/outsiders, but not the people living there and actually using the services?

The place doesn't exactly sound like a tourist Mecca. Sounds more like they just prefer taxes that are harder on the lower classes than the upper.
 
To be fair, this wasn't real libertarianism.

The theory is still perfectly sound and does not have any flaws and its premises are in no way completely divorced from reality. It's just waiting for a proper implementation.
 
To be fair, this wasn't real libertarianism.

The theory is still perfectly sound and does not have any flaws and its premises are in no way completely divorced from reality. It's just waiting for a proper implementation.

Perfect implementation is going to require an iron fist... maybe a Kim Jong Un?
 
To be fair, this wasn't real libertarianism.

The theory is still perfectly sound and does not have any flaws and its premises are in no way completely divorced from reality. It's just waiting for a proper implementation.

Perfect implementation is going to require an iron fist... maybe a Kim Jong Un?

Ah, but the use of an iron fist means that the implementation wasn't perfect, so the failure of the attempt means that the perfection of the libertarian ideology isn't affected.
 
Ah, but the use of an iron fist means that the implementation wasn't perfect, so the failure of the attempt means that the perfection of the libertarian ideology isn't affected.

So you presume citizens have been run through a Vegematic before ideal state is realized.

Or we could be patient and wait for evolution to take the ideal state course and make people plants.
 
"free" in this case meaning "Free from taxes" I suspect.

Turns out, you need taxes to pay for the things that would have attracted businesses to make up the tax shortfall to begin with. What a crazy cycle.
How does a town with a population of 1300 finance a police force, fire department and all the other services people enjoy? How do you even begin to expect that you can have sufficient revenue without collecting taxes? And they accepted federal grant money to do the very things they loathed.

This town clearly has a bipolar streak running through the population. This is what happens when idealism runs amok among not-so-smart people.

Right wing Idealists like to forget that the tit they're feeding on is attached to a gigantic liberal hog.

This kind of scam works only when it's used by wealthy people to keep poor people out of their community. A small group of wealthy people can finance a government which enforces exclusionary local laws, and provide government services.

A community of middle class families cannot support a full service municipal government, without a strong business base.

These people had to learn the hard way. The infrastructure which supports business operations must be in place before the business arrives.
 
Thanks to Unter for sharing this on Facebook. I thought it would be good for discussion here.

https://www.texasobserver.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-freest-little-city-in-texas/

I find it interesting that they acknowledge they need taxes to provide services. What is the rationalization of "sales taxes" being ok while "property taxes" are bad?

It's ok to tax tourists/outsiders, but not the people living there and actually using the services?

Actually, that part of it made sense. The intent was to attract business with low taxes. They would make their money off sales tax levied on transactions for others--much like cities love to tax hotel rooms. The problem is the numbers didn't work.
 
I find it interesting that they acknowledge they need taxes to provide services. What is the rationalization of "sales taxes" being ok while "property taxes" are bad?

It's ok to tax tourists/outsiders, but not the people living there and actually using the services?

Actually, that part of it made sense. The intent was to attract business with low taxes. They would make their money off sales tax levied on transactions for others--much like cities love to tax hotel rooms. The problem is the numbers didn't work.

Every tax must include the cost of collecting the tax. This is the reason sales taxes are so popular. The merchant is the tax collector and is allowed to keep a portion of the collection, if the total is remitted on time. The problem is, sales taxes do not reflect the cost of providing government services, in the same way a property tax will. Sales taxes are very cyclical, following the general economy, as well as the weather and natural disasters.

This little town in Texas fell for the Field of Dreams hype and as has been demonstrated everywhere else the "cut taxes and prosperity will come to you," was tried, they discovered that nothing grows without investment, and what's really important, governments exist to to make the investments which cannot return a cash profit.

Of the billion miles of roads in this nation, a very tiny percent are toll roads. Of those roads, the tolls only supplement the costs. The people who drive over any road are a small percent of those who economically benefit.

It's a very simple proposition. If a community wants low taxes, they must accept a lower standard of living. This lower standard is not always a bad thing, but it can mean a septic tank which must be maintained at the owners expense, instead of a no-care sewer system. It may mean driving over substandard roads at low speeds, to drive to a faraway store. The fire department must use those substandard roads, too. It's always a trade off.

As they used to say, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
 
I find it interesting that they acknowledge they need taxes to provide services. What is the rationalization of "sales taxes" being ok while "property taxes" are bad?

It's ok to tax tourists/outsiders, but not the people living there and actually using the services?

Actually, that part of it made sense. The intent was to attract business with low taxes. They would make their money off sales tax levied on transactions for others--much like cities love to tax hotel rooms. The problem is the numbers didn't work.

So property taxes are theft but sales taxes are not?
 
Actually, that part of it made sense. The intent was to attract business with low taxes. They would make their money off sales tax levied on transactions for others--much like cities love to tax hotel rooms. The problem is the numbers didn't work.

So property taxes are theft but sales taxes are not?

Taxes as theft is just another form of Anarchism. I'm honestly surprised its proven so popular given how well anarchism does here in general. I guess it's just because "No taxes" is an easy sell for suckers.
 
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