WAB
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Okay, nevermind the challenge. For my own benefit, I would like to talk with at least one accomplished poet, that's POET, not just writer, about the Oxford theory. You mention writers who reject Stratford: big whoop? Did they espouse the Oxford theory is the important thing for me, and is relevant for this thread because you and Moogly are Oxfordians, not just anti-Stratfordians.
Why it bothers me that I can't talk about the Oxford case with an accomplished poet is because I believe that a person who cannot see the gaping difference between De Vere's poetry and Shakespeare's will be far more inclined to believe all of the unfounded hype over Oxford.
Look at the opening monologue of Richard III, which I have posted upthread. I submit that no one with an ear for poetry will think that DeVere could have written that beautifully, that superbly.
It may not have been Stratford, so what? Okay, then it was someone who just happened to be the greatest poet in English, and this genius was hiding for some reason? Nobility seems a safe bet.
Sidney was superb, and a far better poet than Oxford, but alas, he died at Zutphen at 29 or so, so he couldn't have done it. The poet Mary Meriam, who is known, and is active at Eratosphere, has the idea that Sidney's sister Mary might have penned Shakespeare. Go and register at Eratosphere, and talk with her? It's free.
More later, but in short, I cannot be convinced of your Oxford theory if all you have are these codes and secret clues. It sounds like a silly conspiracy theory. And the stuff I have seen is not remotely compelling...
Why it bothers me that I can't talk about the Oxford case with an accomplished poet is because I believe that a person who cannot see the gaping difference between De Vere's poetry and Shakespeare's will be far more inclined to believe all of the unfounded hype over Oxford.
Look at the opening monologue of Richard III, which I have posted upthread. I submit that no one with an ear for poetry will think that DeVere could have written that beautifully, that superbly.
It may not have been Stratford, so what? Okay, then it was someone who just happened to be the greatest poet in English, and this genius was hiding for some reason? Nobility seems a safe bet.
Sidney was superb, and a far better poet than Oxford, but alas, he died at Zutphen at 29 or so, so he couldn't have done it. The poet Mary Meriam, who is known, and is active at Eratosphere, has the idea that Sidney's sister Mary might have penned Shakespeare. Go and register at Eratosphere, and talk with her? It's free.
More later, but in short, I cannot be convinced of your Oxford theory if all you have are these codes and secret clues. It sounds like a silly conspiracy theory. And the stuff I have seen is not remotely compelling...