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The women in Iran taking off the hijab

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Women across Iran are posting photos of themselves without the hijab to a dedicated Facebook page called "My Stealthy Freedom".

The Facebook page was set up just over a week ago, and already has 130,000 "likes". Almost all are from people in Iran, both men and women.

So far the page has around 150 photos. They show women on the beach, on the street, in the countryside, alone, with friends or their partners - but crucially - all without the headscarf. Most include a few words, for example: "I loathe the hijab. I too like the feel of the sun and the wind on my hair. Is this a big sin?"

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-27373368

More power to them!
 

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They're not just taking off the hijab, they're not wearing head coverings of any kind.

The Koran just says to cover your hair and dress modestly in public, which is why more moderate Muslims just wear scarves on their heads rather than the whole walking-tent hijab thing or the beekeeper-looking burqa thing. These ladies aren't even doing the scarf thing. Good for them. It's like the old timey 70s Muslim version of feminism is making a comeback.
 

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They're not just taking off the hijab, they're not wearing head coverings of any kind.

The Koran just says to cover your hair and dress modestly in public, which is why more moderate Muslims just wear scarves on their heads rather than the whole walking-tent hijab thing or the beekeeper-looking burqa thing. These ladies aren't even doing the scarf thing. Good for them. It's like the old timey 70s Muslim version of feminism is making a comeback.
Actually, the face covering type of hijab, like the niqab or burqa, is very rarely seen in Iran and mostly occurs in Arab minorities and not really among the majority Persian population. Most people in Iran wear a simple headscarf or the indigenous chador which is like a scarf/cloak but still allows the user to leave their face uncovered. The chador actually predates Islam and goes back to at least Achaemenid times were it was a sign of status (servants were not allowed to wear it).
 

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Women across Iran are posting photos of themselves without the hijab to a dedicated Facebook page called "My Stealthy Freedom".

The Facebook page was set up just over a week ago, and already has 130,000 "likes". Almost all are from people in Iran, both men and women.

So far the page has around 150 photos. They show women on the beach, on the street, in the countryside, alone, with friends or their partners - but crucially - all without the headscarf. Most include a few words, for example: "I loathe the hijab. I too like the feel of the sun and the wind on my hair. Is this a big sin?"

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-27373368

More power to them!

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Egad! Women doing what they want and not caring if men disapprove!

Where'd they get this idea that they're some kind of individuals? It wasn't from me.
 

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do you want muslims women to go topless too?
Frankly, no.
What _I_ would want is for all peoples all over the world to jettison oppressive, obsolete religions that teach hate, shame or bigotry, so that no one is subject to purely religious-based rules or expectations of conduct.

Then ALL women can go topless.

I mean, now that you mention it, that's what i would want.

Why not? What's wrong with topless, if it's the woman's personal choice? Other than sunburn or grass stains on some of those women....
 

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People have been imprisoned for what they've said on facebook, so I hope nothing happens to them.
 

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Poor Syed...still enslaved by such conservative ideas when they are Muslims who are HAPPY! You have probably never heard of the Muslim founded movement "Honesty Policy", Syed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVDIXqILqSM

salam

do you want muslims women to go topless too?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/05/topless-book-club-new-york-photos-nsfw_n_5267320.html

I gotta admit, I find this to be much more appealing and innocent than scenes and videos of insane Islamic Fundamentalists stoning and beheading people.
Which do you like better Syed?
 

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Poor Syed...still enslaved by such conservative ideas when they are Muslims who are HAPPY! You have probably never heard of the Muslim founded movement "Honesty Policy", Syed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVDIXqILqSM

salam

do you want muslims women to go topless too?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/05/topless-book-club-new-york-photos-nsfw_n_5267320.html

I gotta admit, I find this to be much more appealing and innocent than scenes and videos of insane Islamic Fundamentalists stoning and beheading people.
Which do you like better Syed?

we are not talking about osama bin laden
 

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I gotta admit, I find this to be much more appealing and innocent than scenes and videos of insane Islamic Fundamentalists stoning and beheading people.
Which do you like better Syed?

we are not talking about osama bin laden
How about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?
I really don't know what you're talking about, Syed, except for your usual taking the slightest thing all the way to the worst possible interpretation.
Some women make a choice you don't agree with, then they might as well be whores.

Should we, then, take that any Muslim might as well be a head-taking terrorist? Just to keep up?
 

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Poor Syed...still enslaved by such conservative ideas when they are Muslims who are HAPPY! You have probably never heard of the Muslim founded movement "Honesty Policy", Syed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVDIXqILqSM

salam

do you want muslims women to go topless too?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/05/topless-book-club-new-york-photos-nsfw_n_5267320.html

I gotta admit, I find this to be much more appealing and innocent than scenes and videos of insane Islamic Fundamentalists stoning and beheading people.
Which do you like better Syed?

we are not talking about osama bin laden
But I didn't ask you anything at all about bin laden, did I Syed?

Why not just reply to the question I actually posed rather than introducing a strawman.
Which is the more offensive to you, viewing a woman's wholesome and natural form, or viewing insane religious murders and beheadings performed in the name of Allah?
 

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Poor Syed...still enslaved by such conservative ideas when they are Muslims who are HAPPY! You have probably never heard of the Muslim founded movement "Honesty Policy", Syed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVDIXqILqSM

salam

do you want muslims women to go topless too?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/05/topless-book-club-new-york-photos-nsfw_n_5267320.html
I am French Syed....my hometown is on the French Riviera. Being topless on our beaches is not an issue in my country. Was born and raised in Africa until age 12, Syed. Saw naked breasts from the time I was a young child. Not an issue.

The alleged evil of exposed breasts is in the eye of the beholder, Syed.
 

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do you want muslims women to go topless too?
How about asking what each of the women living in that country wants? Muslim or not.
Why not leaving to themself to decide?

OK ... I don't know if you've ever enslaved anybody before, but this is a really horrible way to dehumanize a group of people and thus allow you to morally justify dominating and oppressing them.

I have to say that your post is giving me serious doubts about your level of commitment to evil.
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?
 

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going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.
Like ankles, which were covered at one time, risking shocking censure if they were exposed.
Or plunging necklines.
Miniskirts.
Bikinis.
We've become saturated with skin. Syed cries about the change, but ignores recent history. And human nature.

Interest and arousal surrounds the rare, the unattainable and the tabboo.

IF trends continue unabated, some day most of the citizenry will be actually or effectively naked, and Sports Illustrated will have the annual Business Suit issue.

Porn will be smoldering eyes behind a hijab.

Spring Break will survive on wet-burka contests.

We'll pay $10 at the peep show to watch a woman put ON a HAZMAT suit and a gas mask.
 

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Good for the women.

They're not just taking off the hijab, they're not wearing head coverings of any kind.

The Koran just says to cover your hair and dress modestly in public, which is why more moderate Muslims just wear scarves on their heads rather than the whole walking-tent hijab thing or the beekeeper-looking burqa thing. These ladies aren't even doing the scarf thing. Good for them. It's like the old timey 70s Muslim version of feminism is making a comeback.

It says to dress modestly for BOTH men and women, but for some reason, that covering-the-head thing only goes for women.

Again, another sign of men projecting their desires onto women.
 

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Good for the women.

They're not just taking off the hijab, they're not wearing head coverings of any kind.

The Koran just says to cover your hair and dress modestly in public, which is why more moderate Muslims just wear scarves on their heads rather than the whole walking-tent hijab thing or the beekeeper-looking burqa thing. These ladies aren't even doing the scarf thing. Good for them. It's like the old timey 70s Muslim version of feminism is making a comeback.

It says to dress modestly for BOTH men and women, but for some reason, that covering-the-head thing only goes for women.

Again, another sign of men projecting their desires onto women.

Actually, depending on the area, Islamic dress codes have been interpreted to mean that men must also cover their heads. You'll notice that almost all male religious figures in Islam cover their heads. Of course, this is enforced for women and merely "recommended" for men.
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?

where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?

where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?

As long as the rules are the same for women and men, I don't really care what is shown in public
 

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Blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars, nuclear explosions, rape and circumcisions.

about the clothes
So you DID notice that clothes weren't on my list...

Frankly, i'd tend to leave it up to the individual, personally.
I figure if we completely removed all clothing restrictions, we'd have widespread nudity for a while, then sunburn, windburn, car accidents, bug bites, hot asphalt and puddles would drive most of us slowly back to pre-enlightenment dress standards.

Some would never go naked, some would never go back.

Either way, there are many, many things i feel need restriction far more than clothing.
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?

where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?

As long as the rules are the same for women and men, I don't really care what is shown in public

basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?

where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?

As long as the rules are the same for women and men, I don't really care what is shown in public

basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals
Sounds correct to me.
 

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basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals
Atheist morality is hand crafted, by men, same as yours.
It's just harder for some prude to convince others that HIS morals come from a god so everyone else should follow.

BASICALLY, atheist morality just questions why CAN'T we show private parts? And your being afraid of them hardly counts as a good reason.

And i could give a rat's if you do or do not follow my morals, Syed. As long as you don't try to force me to follow YOUR morals, just because you think they're god-breathed.
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?

where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?

Hey Syed, why don't you need to wear a hijab? Why is it only the women that have to cover up?
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?

where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?

As long as the rules are the same for women and men, I don't really care what is shown in public

basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals
Actually all he said was people should have a choice.
 

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basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals
Atheist morality is hand crafted, by men, same as yours.
My wife would probably have some strong input on that statement :D

It's just harder for some prude to convince others that HIS morals come from a god so everyone else should follow.

BASICALLY, atheist morality just questions why CAN'T we show private parts? And your being afraid of them hardly counts as a good reason.

And i could give a rat's if you do or do not follow my morals, Syed. As long as you don't try to force me to follow YOUR morals, just because you think they're god-breathed.
Yup, I also don't need Syed to follow my morals, I just have to follow my wife's morals.

I'd also like to know why Syed thinks he doesn't need to wear a hijab? After all, gay sex isn't just a Christian/atheist thingy...
 

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where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?
Blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars, nuclear explosions, rape and circumcisions.

about the clothes

Blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars and suicide bombing is MUCH more offensive and harmful to the public than a few immodestly dressed women, woundn't you agree? Such events are common in the Islamic world yet you never seem to take offense and speak out against such things. Why are your priorities so fucked up?

Syed, can you explain why women choosing to bare their breasts in public is wrong?
 

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What you find shocking is what you've been enculturated to find shocking, Syed. It is not natural to find uncovered hair or breasts shocking. This is learned.

Remember that a century ago the women in the Happy Muslims video wearing tight trousers would have been shocking to your average American, but today no-one cares, because we're used to it.
If Muslim women began uncovering their hair or going topless on hot days it would soon become unremarkable and arouse no interest as well.

Do you not agree?

where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?

As long as the rules are the same for women and men, I don't really care what is shown in public

basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals

Wrong. People should be free to dress how they please, and those who are offened by immodest dresses should look away instead of making it a big deal and forcing women to dress in sacks from head to toe.
 

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Women across Iran are posting photos of themselves without the hijab to a dedicated Facebook page called "My Stealthy Freedom".

The Facebook page was set up just over a week ago, and already has 130,000 "likes". Almost all are from people in Iran, both men and women.

So far the page has around 150 photos. They show women on the beach, on the street, in the countryside, alone, with friends or their partners - but crucially - all without the headscarf. Most include a few words, for example: "I loathe the hijab. I too like the feel of the sun and the wind on my hair. Is this a big sin?"

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-27373368

More power to them!

one day they may became like this
If that's what they want to become, then we can only hope one day they do become like that. :)
 

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basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals

Wrong. People should be free to dress how they please, and those who are offened by immodest dresses should look away instead of making it a big deal and forcing women to dress in sacks from head to toe.

Exactly. People should live their lives as they choose and if some don't like the way that others are living it, then that's their problem and not the problem of the person who's offending them.
 

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suicide bombing is MUCH more offensive and harmful to the public than a few immodestly dressed women, woundn't you agree?
I dunno about that.
I mean, yeah, the way it's currently staged, as amateur public performances, yes.
But if people want to blow themselves up for their God, it could make a wonderfully satisfying reality show.

Divide them into teams, by skills, not necessarily by ideology. Give them some objectives. Park a tank in an abandoned warehouse or put mannaquins in four old school busses in a field. They choose the team member to go blow themselves up against the target, points are assessed, and donations made to the charity of the team's choice.

Producers could tighten the drama, asking IRA and Al Qaeda team members to cooperate in the destruction of a Pope mobile parked in a mosque. They have to destroy the vehicle but clean up the damage for services after...

Challenge a PETA/Muslim team that they'll get bonus explosives if they eat halal steaks...
 

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Sorry to disappoint, but blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars, nuclear explosions, rape and circumcisions are venerable traditions that western liberals have no right to interfere in. If you don't like blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars, nuclear explosions, rape and circumcisions, then that's your choice. But don't try to force your values on others! :p
 

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Sorry to disappoint, but blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars, nuclear explosions, rape and circumcisions are venerable traditions that western liberals have no right to interfere in. If you don't like blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars, nuclear explosions, rape and circumcisions, then that's your choice. But don't try to force your values on others! :p

Really? Circumcision? Do you think that belongs in the list with those other things? Why not just add in cutting infront of others in a line?
 

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I've often seen it said that the reason the koran tells women they should cover up is for the sake of modesty, but it really isn't. It's to distinguish themselves from non-muslim women, so that muslim men can tell which women are to be left in peace (i.e. muslim women) and which are fair game (i.e. non-muslim women). That could be just my nterpretation, but it's there in black and white:
33:The Clans said:
59. O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.
In the minds of those who impose coverall dress codes on women, women who don't cover up are saying, "I'm not really a believer, so it's okay for you to do what you want to me".
 

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I've often seen it said that the reason the koran tells women they should cover up is for the sake of modesty, but it really isn't. It's to distinguish themselves from non-muslim women, so that muslim men can tell which women are to be left in peace (i.e. muslim women) and which are fair game (i.e. non-muslim women). That could be just my nterpretation, but it's there in black and white:
33:The Clans said:
59. O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.
In the minds of those who impose coverall dress codes on women, women who don't cover up are saying, "I'm not really a believer, so it's okay for you to do what you want to me".

Thanks for pointing that out. That is what it seems to be saying. Syed, what do you think, should Muslim women be left in peace and only non-Muslim women harrassed in public?
 

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basically atheist morality is that you can show private parts and muslims should follow your morals

I don't think there is such a thing as atheist morality, because atheists are a very broad group of people that believe many different things. The only thing that all atheists agree on is that there are no gods, but that doesn't mean that they all agree with each other on the subject of morals and ethics.
 

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where do you draw the line?

what shouldnt be shown in public?
Blood sacrifices, beheadings, holy wars, nuclear explosions, rape and circumcisions.

Add to that: beatings of women
True.
More general: "Those actions which will, or may, or a person should know it may, or could be expected to know it may, pose a threat of death, grievous bodily harm, Celine Dion or permanent scarring upon an individual without their express consent at the time of infliction."

I suppose it's possible Syed would feel that a viewing of boobies would run a risk of causing permanent emotional scarring. But i'd contend that it's only his religion-based conditioning which causes the reaction. Islam has scarred him, boobies are harmless.
 
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