This week's top woke fauxgressive idiot

[Derec]

Bernie's mittens be racist, y'all! Or at least so says a woke San Francisco teacher and SF Chronicle writer.

Did Bernie's inauguration outfit epitomize 'white privilege'? A San Francisco teacher thinks so.

Original article on SF Chronicle. Paywalled, as if anybody would pay for that dreck.
S.F. high school students get a lesson in subtle white privilege

 

[ideologyhunter]

Oh, the horror, the horror. Tell me, do you spend the same amount of time running down the insane stuff that Marjorie Taylor Greene promotes, every day? You should. That would be a good use of your time, and it would demonstrate that your right wing views are not divorced from morality. And in the case of Ms. Greene, unlike this nutty woman that obsesses you, she's in the goddamned government, has Cong. committee assignments (so far), and in 2019 she "liked" an online comment which advocated shooting Nancy Pelosi in the head. She thinks Sandy Hook and the Florida school shooting were both staged.
Go ahead. Demonstrate your sanity and your standards by saying that a far worse nutcase -- Marjorie -- is a blot on the side you favor.

 

[Metaphor]

Oh, the horror, the horror. Tell me, do you spend the same amount of time running down the insane stuff that Marjorie Taylor Greene promotes, every day?

No, he doesn't. Is Derec obligated to? Why?

Tell me, do you think this board has a dearth of people and posts attacking conservatives and Republicans? Is there a gap in the market that you want Derec to fill?

You should. That would be a good use of your time, and it would demonstrate that your right wing views are not divorced from morality.

Are you serious? Until every view you don't like is 'covered' by Derec, you consider that there's no evidence that Derec himself is not 'divorced' from morality?

And in the case of Ms. Greene, unlike this nutty woman that obsesses you,

He's 'obsessed' with a woman he's never heard of before because he made one post about her nutty ramblings?

she's in the goddamned government, has Cong. committee assignments (so far), and in 2019 she "liked" an online comment which advocated shooting Nancy Pelosi in the head. She thinks Sandy Hook and the Florida school shooting were both staged.
Go ahead. Demonstrate your sanity and your standards by saying that a far worse nutcase -- Marjorie -- is a blot on the side you favor.

What on earth obligates Derec to do anything of the sort? Did Derec defend Greene's behaviour?

 

[Derec]

Oh, the horror, the horror. Tell me, do you spend the same amount of time running down the insane stuff that Marjorie Taylor Greene promotes, every day? You should.

Why? This thread is not about her. Not all threads have to be about your particular obsession.
MTG gets more than enough attention as it is, and she is a fringe kook from Bumfuck, GA.
On the other hand, the "white supremacy is everywhere" kooks like ISO are not fringe anymore, they are in ascendancy. ISO is also from one of the major cities in the US, and not some rural backwater.
Her toxic views part of same cancer as SF school board cancelling Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt etc. It is also the same toxic ideology behind black supremacists like Ibrahim × Kendi. Or NYC schools quoting cop killers as part of their support for the #BLM movement.

So please don't derail this thread. MTG is not the subject of this thread.

That would be a good use of your time, and it would demonstrate that your right wing views are not divorced from morality.

First of all, I am not a right winger. Second of all, why do you left wingers always attack anybody criticizing left wing kooks?

And in the case of Ms. Greene,

Enough of your derails. What is your opinion on ISO's lunacy?

 

[ideologyhunter]

Enough of your derails. What is your opinion on ISO's lunacy?

1. It's wacky.
2. It's fairly innocuous.
3. It's unlikely to cause any tangible harm to anyone.

 

[Gospel]

Aww look, it's Ingrid Seyer-Ochi a nutjob I never herd of until now and won't recall in five minutes.

 

[laughing dog]

In a world of 6 billion people, there are lots of absurd ideas promoted by people. So, nothing like this is surprising. Nor is it noteworthy.

 

[ZiprHead]

meh...

 

[Metaphor]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

And for those calling it innocuous, it isn't. It's the product of believing systemic racism is everywhere and everything, and that means fantasising that wearing mittens on a cold day is a sign of 'white privilege'. Remember, CRT believers want white people to give up their privilege, they want privilege dismantled.

 

[Gospel]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

And for those calling it innocuous, it isn't. It's the product of believing systemic racism is everywhere and everything, and that means fantasising that wearing mittens on a cold day is a sign of 'white privilege'. Remember, CRT believers want white people to give up their privilege, they want privilege dismantled.

Having concern over folks calling for the dismantling of something that doesn't exist is a weird flex but I can dig it.

 

[Metaphor]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

And for those calling it innocuous, it isn't. It's the product of believing systemic racism is everywhere and everything, and that means fantasising that wearing mittens on a cold day is a sign of 'white privilege'. Remember, CRT believers want white people to give up their privilege, they want privilege dismantled.

Having concern over folks calling for the dismantling of something that doesn't exist is a weird flex but I can dig it.

I don't believe wearing mittens on a cold day is 'white privilege'. I also don't want to dismantle the ability for white people to wear mittens on cold days. Your mileage may vary.

EDIT: I also don't believe that black people or women were prevented from wearing mittens, by the law or social pressure or anything else worth thinking or talking about, though perhaps their own vanity prevented it. (Just like AOC doesn't like the expectation that women wear makeup, but her vanity ensures she continues to model and reinforce that behaviour by wearing makeup every single day, even though she is an elected official who cannot be disciplined for not wearing makeup and her job is not in jeopardy if she does not).

 

[laughing dog]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

And for those calling it innocuous, it isn't. It's the product of believing systemic racism is everywhere and everything, and that means fantasising that wearing mittens on a cold day is a sign of 'white privilege'. Remember, CRT believers want white people to give up their privilege, they want privilege dismantled.

So? Are you under the impression that this is a burgeoning movement ready to metaphorically impoverish white people?

Frankly, I'm much more worried about violent white supremacists in my country than the cathode ray tubers.

 

[Metaphor]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

And for those calling it innocuous, it isn't. It's the product of believing systemic racism is everywhere and everything, and that means fantasising that wearing mittens on a cold day is a sign of 'white privilege'. Remember, CRT believers want white people to give up their privilege, they want privilege dismantled.

So? Are you under the impression that this is a burgeoning movement ready to metaphorically impoverish white people?

Frankly, I'm much more worried about violent white supremacists in my country than the cathode ray tubers.

I can see why. White supremacists have clearly completed their long march through the institutions and its white supremacists all the way down, right?

 

[TSwizzle]

1. It's wacky.
2. It's fairly innocuous.
3. It's unlikely to cause any tangible harm to anyone.

Innocuous, unlikely to cause harm ? WTF ? This nut bar is a teacher and teaching this nonsense to her students it seems.

 

[Gospel]

1. It's wacky.
2. It's fairly innocuous.
3. It's unlikely to cause any tangible harm to anyone.

Innocuous, unlikely to cause harm ? WTF ? This nut bar is a teacher and teaching this nonsense to her students it seems.

Yeah, I'll give you that. She has no business being a teacher if she's serious about mittens being a sign of white privilege.

 

[Gospel]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

And for those calling it innocuous, it isn't. It's the product of believing systemic racism is everywhere and everything, and that means fantasising that wearing mittens on a cold day is a sign of 'white privilege'. Remember, CRT believers want white people to give up their privilege, they want privilege dismantled.

Having concern over folks calling for the dismantling of something that doesn't exist is a weird flex but I can dig it.

I don't believe wearing mittens on a cold day is 'white privilege'. I also don't want to dismantle the ability for white people to wear mittens on cold days. Your mileage may vary.

EDIT: I also don't believe that black people or women were prevented from wearing mittens, by the law or social pressure or anything else worth thinking or talking about, though perhaps their own vanity prevented it. (Just like AOC doesn't like the expectation that women wear makeup, but her vanity ensures she continues to model and reinforce that behaviour by wearing makeup every single day, even though she is an elected official who cannot be disciplined for not wearing makeup and her job is not in jeopardy if she does not).

I don't even like mittens. There is a distinct way I have to hold my spliffs which mittens don't allow. But yes sir, I haven't been deprived of them.

 

[Keith&Co.]

1. It's wacky.
2. It's fairly innocuous.
3. It's unlikely to cause any tangible harm to anyone.

Innocuous, unlikely to cause harm ? WTF ? This nut bar is a teacher and teaching this nonsense to her students it seems.

My wife taught for seventeen years. She couldn't get her students to stop using 'gay' as an insult, to bring a pencil to class each day, or to stop being late to school because they stopped for Starbucks. The effectiveness of teacher influence is grossly overestimated by fearmongers.

 

[Gospel]

1. It's wacky.
2. It's fairly innocuous.
3. It's unlikely to cause any tangible harm to anyone.

Innocuous, unlikely to cause harm ? WTF ? This nut bar is a teacher and teaching this nonsense to her students it seems.

My wife taught for seventeen years. She couldn't get her students to stop using 'gay' as an insult, to bring a pencil to class each day, or to stop being late to school because they stopped for Starbucks. The effectiveness of teacher influence is grossly overestimated by fearmongers.

I dunno about that. Judging by the current state of the world (being the ghetto that it is) I think there are a shit ton of teachers like Ingrid Seyer-Ochi putting their own spin on education.

 

[laughing dog]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

And for those calling it innocuous, it isn't. It's the product of believing systemic racism is everywhere and everything, and that means fantasising that wearing mittens on a cold day is a sign of 'white privilege'. Remember, CRT believers want white people to give up their privilege, they want privilege dismantled.

So? Are you under the impression that this is a burgeoning movement ready to metaphorically impoverish white people?

Frankly, I'm much more worried about violent white supremacists in my country than the cathode ray tubers.

I can see why. White supremacists have clearly completed their long march through the institutions and its white supremacists all the way down, right?

I can understand why someone prone to hysterical over-reaction would post such a ridiculous straw man, but why would you?

 

[Metaphor]

I can see why. White supremacists have clearly completed their long march through the institutions and its white supremacists all the way down, right?

I can understand why someone prone to hysterical over-reaction would post such a ridiculous straw man, but why would you?

You are more afraid of violent white supremacists than of CRT peddlers. Why? How many violent white supremacists do you encounter each day? At work, at home, shopping for groceries?

I encounter zero. If there are white supremacists at my work, I have no idea of it, because social standards so condemns violent white supremacy nobody would dare to admit it. And I have not met or interacted with violent white supremacists. (A couple of years ago, I was assaulted by a drug addict on a bus because he thought I was "looking" at him, but we were both white, so I'm pretty sure race didn't play into it).

But in the American academy, American for-profit corporations, and American public schools in far left districts (San Francisco particularly) - and in Canada and Australia and the UK as well - it is a matter of faith to proclaim that all institutions and conventions are systemically racist (including the concept of merit), that non-white minorities that achieve higher than whites are white adjacent enablers (multi-racial whiteness), that non-equal outcomes means systemic racism. White people (and cis white heterosexual men especially) can be castigated for the actions of some of their ancestors and are de-racialised by the very people who think 'white people' racialise others.

High schools that achieved prestige by being selective are now destroying their own value because merit is racist.

Medical schools in the febrile grip of CRT madness continue to select students who have lower medical aptitude in order to achieve something approaching racial 'representativeness'. Meanwhile, all the posturing and virtue signalling in the world cannot improve the higher black failure rate in the USMLEs, a failure rate easily statistically predictable given the lower overall aptitude and achievement scores of black medical students compared to white medical students.

No. I am not afraid of violent white supremacists. I am afraid of society destroying its own value and achievements for a vision built on an illusion.