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Trump considering kicking off 2024 run during Biden's inauguration: report | TheHill
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Trump’s Already Gaming Out a 2024 Run, Including an Event During Biden’s Inauguration
In the twilight of his presidency, Donald Trump is discussing different ways to disrupt the impending Joe Biden era, chief among them by announcing another run against him.

According to three people familiar with the conversations, the president, who refuses to acknowledge he lost the 2020 election as he clearly did, has not just talked to close advisers and confidants about a potential 2024 run to reclaim the White House but about the specifics of a campaign launch. The conversations have explored, among other things, how Trump could best time his announcement so as to keep the Republican Party behind him for the next four years. Two of these knowledgeable sources said the president has, in the past two weeks, even floated the idea of doing a 2024-related event during Biden’s inauguration week, possibly on Inauguration Day, if his legal effort to steal the 2020 election ultimately fails.
 

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Trump considering kicking off 2024 run during Biden's inauguration: report | TheHill
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Trump’s Already Gaming Out a 2024 Run, Including an Event During Biden’s Inauguration
In the twilight of his presidency, Donald Trump is discussing different ways to disrupt the impending Joe Biden era, chief among them by announcing another run against him.

According to three people familiar with the conversations, the president, who refuses to acknowledge he lost the 2020 election as he clearly did, has not just talked to close advisers and confidants about a potential 2024 run to reclaim the White House but about the specifics of a campaign launch. The conversations have explored, among other things, how Trump could best time his announcement so as to keep the Republican Party behind him for the next four years. Two of these knowledgeable sources said the president has, in the past two weeks, even floated the idea of doing a 2024-related event during Biden’s inauguration week, possibly on Inauguration Day, if his legal effort to steal the 2020 election ultimately fails.

Well, his legal effort is certainly failing and failing spectacularly, so he'd better start planning.
 

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Trump considering kicking off 2024 run during Biden's inauguration: report | TheHill
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Trump’s Already Gaming Out a 2024 Run, Including an Event During Biden’s Inauguration
In the twilight of his presidency, Donald Trump is discussing different ways to disrupt the impending Joe Biden era, chief among them by announcing another run against him.

According to three people familiar with the conversations, the president, who refuses to acknowledge he lost the 2020 election as he clearly did, has not just talked to close advisers and confidants about a potential 2024 run to reclaim the White House but about the specifics of a campaign launch. The conversations have explored, among other things, how Trump could best time his announcement so as to keep the Republican Party behind him for the next four years. Two of these knowledgeable sources said the president has, in the past two weeks, even floated the idea of doing a 2024-related event during Biden’s inauguration week, possibly on Inauguration Day, if his legal effort to steal the 2020 election ultimately fails.

Well, his legal effort is certainly failing and failing spectacularly, so he'd better start planning.

I doubt that he has any intention of trying to win in '24. It's a gimmick to get the attention and adulation he craves, from the Q-razies who got him 50 million votes in 2020.
 

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Clownstick has also set up a new PAC called Save America. If SarahPAC could raise a few million, and take her personal national tours for half a dozen years living well off of it, how much does anyone think Don the Con could raise for his personal slush fund PAC? Clownstick's favorite color is green, and I'm sure he'll be able to raise a few tens of millions bilking the Trumpster Trash lemmings... Free money with few to no rules on use???
 

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Well, his legal effort is certainly failing and failing spectacularly, so he'd better start planning.

I doubt that he has any intention of trying to win in '24. It's a gimmick to get the attention and adulation he craves, from the Q-razies who got him 50 million votes in 2020.

I bet he's afraid of retaliation from the Q-razies if he doesn't.
 

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Trump running starting in January 2021, would be what he did in 2017, he started running (filed the paperwork) almost immediately. This would allow him to do a couple things he loves most, be adored by a crowd and not have to pay for it. Everyone remember when Palin did likewise, to a smaller scale, kind of pretending she was thinking of running with her Palin bus, because the cash was coming in... for a bit. It was a great gig to talk about nothing, be held accountable for nothing, and have other people pay for it.

I imagine this would be the absolute last thing the GOP would want. Of course, they have enabled him to this point, they really don't have a choice.
 

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I have no doubt Trump is trying to pave the way for him to be Palin 2.0, I just don't see him having the charisma to pull it off.
 

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Seems like Kamala Harris responded by laughing. I've heard her give that response to some other issues, and that might end up being a common caricature of her.
 

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The idiots! They think they are paying to help save this election. They don't get most of the money is going to the RNC and Trump's 4 year paid vacation (2021-2025).
 

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Why isn't this massive fraud? The fleeces the rubes for $170,000,000.00 using an email full of falsehoods.
If I collected $170.00 doing that, I'd probably be in jail.
 

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Republicans cheer on a Trump 2024 run - POLITICO
Congressional Republicans were slow to embrace Donald Trump’s White House campaign in 2016. But the ousted president will have plenty of support on Capitol Hill should he run again in 2024.

Trump is even getting cheered on publicly by some of the very Republicans who could seek higher office in the future. Even in defeat, Trump’s hold on the party remains strong.
Like Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) and Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL).
In a series of interviews Wednesday, House and Senate Republicans made clear that the GOP has no intention of turning its back on Trumpism — or Trump himself. That’s in part because Trump remains an exceedingly popular figure in his party, far more than most congressional Republicans. Some Republicans declined to discuss the 2024 race, however, deeming it too speculative.
 

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This would be so very, very funny if Trump tried a half-assed run in 2024, split the GOP vote and handed the Democrats the election. Go, Trump! Onwards to total humiliation and defeat!
 

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Civil war between MAGA, GOP establishment could hand Dems total control | TheHill

After noting how only 3% of MAGA people think that Joe Biden will be the US's next President, starting next year,
Which leads to a big problem for those who have an eye on the 2024 prize. That list includes Vice President Mike Pence, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, Governors Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) and Kristi Noem (R-S.D.), Sens. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), Rick Scott (R-Fla.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas), among others.
After noting what Big Names they are,
News Flash: None of them remotely have a chance if Trump runs again.

A big chunk of the reason lies in the enormous loyalty Trump retains from his base, which is much bigger than the pre-election pundits believed given the more than 74 million votes the candidate received, or 20 million more than Ronald Reagan received in 1984 in winning 49 states.

Another is media attention, where Jupiter Trump blocks out the sun and therefore any light on any of the aforementioned candidates above, just as he did in 2016 against 17 others – including Cruz and Rubio – who received a fraction of the coverage.

Trump also has the role of victim going for him.

Author Joe Concha ends with
As we exit 2020, the longtime two-party system has expanded to four.

It's MAGA vs. the GOP establishment. It's “the Squad” vs. the Democratic establishment.

Save for a Hail Mary in the legal process, President Trump will become an ex-president and a presidential candidate at around the same time. With such a fractured landscape, don't expect unity to be a theme in Washington anytime soon.
Seems like the Tea Party has become the MAGA movement.
 

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I... almost hope he runs? I mean, provided he doesn't actually win. He wouldn't, right? I mean... he couldn't... right?
 

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The tea party morphed into Trumpism - The Washington Post by Geoffrey Kabaservice
The tea party movement was just getting started when I began writing a history of the Republican Party in 2009. I viewed the movement as the latest iteration of a basically cyclical populist phenomenon. It would push American politics to the right, I thought at the time, but eventually its impact would dissipate. The country would then swing back toward the center for a number of years until the next conservative counter-reaction.

But the tea party never really faded away. It mutated. It became the Trump movement, which is likely to dominate the Republican Party and have a major impact on politics for years to come. If the best guide to conservatism was once Arthur Schlesinger Jr.’s “The Cycles of American History,” now it might be Leon Trotsky’s “The Permanent Revolution.” Conservatism’s familiar pattern of advance, consolidation, retrenchment and renewal has vanished. In its place is some
He then noted bursts of conservative activism, bursts separated by some 10 - 15 years of quiescence.
  • late 1930's - early 1940's: "America First"
  • early 1950's: a Red Scare and Sen. Joe McCarthy
  • (didn't mention the John Birch Society: late 1950's - early 1960's)
  • 1964: Barry Goldwater's candidacy
  • 1976, 1980: Ronald Reagan's candidacy
  • 1994: the angry white males who made Newt Gingrich speaker
  • 2010: the Tea Party
The "teabaggers" were rather easy to make fun of: "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!"

What created this cycle?
For one thing, it’s hard to keep any political movement going at full steam for a long time. Activists can put their jobs and personal lives on hold for a while when their efforts gather force and advance toward victory, but that’s not sustainable indefinitely.
In short, activism burnout. Another is electing some of the activists to public office.

Much like how a Schlesinger liberal period ends. From activism burnout and having some successes.

But once in office, such legislators become more moderate, or at least more pragmatic. Former Senator Slade Gordon (R-WA) noted a cycle:

First the Goldwaterites, then the Reaganites, then the Gingrichites, then the teabaggers.
“The people who are in party organizations and want to win elections have to make certain compromises,” Gorton told me, “and then they get thrown out by the true believers.” A perfect example was John Boehner, who had been a right-wing bomb-thrower during the Gingrich era but became the embodiment of the GOP establishment until tea partyers made his job as House speaker so miserable that he resigned in 2015.
 

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The teabaggers were something else.
The tea party, though, was something new. It departed from the cyclical pattern of previous conservative movements. The 87 Republicans swept into the House by the tea party wave in 2010 mostly came from gerrymandered conservative districts, so they had no need to moderate to win over Democratic and independent voters; their only threat to reelection was being outflanked from the right in a GOP primary. But while they could have had long political careers, comparatively few did. A 2016 profile of the tea party class observed that by that time, nearly a quarter were gone, many of them having “decided after just five years that they’ve had enough of Congress.” By 2018, nearly half had left the House (although some went on to the Senate or other political offices).

Many of these legislators genuinely hated being in government — and so, unsurprisingly, were lousy at governing.
Then such awful governance as not coming up with any good substitute for Obamacare, despite wanting to "repeal and replace" it. Also interfering with cooperation with President Obama and forcing out Speaker John Boehner for supposedly being too willing to make deals with Democrats.

Trump's Presidency revived the Tea Party under the name MAGA - Make America Great Again.
Trump in 2016 articulated grievances that were based on the real problems of non-college-educated Americans in rural regions and postindustrial towns, communities that have been destroyed by job losses, family dysfunction, and epidemics of drug and alcohol addiction. The tea party had also channeled the anger and disappointment of Americans who had lost manufacturing jobs to automation and globalization, who sensed that both parties had permitted much of the economy’s gains to be captured by special interests, and who felt disdained by the cultural elite and ignored by the political elite. But both the tea party and Trump’s movement also were rooted in fact-free conspiracy theories about the treachery of Democrats and elites, who allegedly plotted to destroy the livelihoods and traditions of “real Americans” for their own benefit.
Donald Trump himself has noted the TP - MAGA contibuity.
Trump and Republicans in Congress could have chosen to pursue policies that would have improved the lives of their supporters. But the tea party’s contempt for policymaking carried over into the Trump administration; the GOP couldn’t even be bothered to assemble a platform at this year’s convention.
These self-styled fiscal conservatives let the budget deficient grow by $4 trillion over Trump's Presidency. Despite Trump's completely failed leadership against the COVID-19 virus, many of them came to believe in QAnon, a conspiracy theory that pictures Trump as a heroic leader battling Democratic pedophiles.

Then how the TP-MAGA movement is about Trotsky-style permanent revolution.
It has become a perpetual grievance machine unwilling (and unable) to address those grievances through governance or the legislative process. And in refusing to accept Trump’s defeat, the conservative movement increasingly insists that the rule of law, truth and democracy are what the revolution says they are.
 

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Civil war between MAGA, GOP establishment could hand Dems total control | TheHill

Republican 2024 presidential hopefuls already descending on newfound battleground Georgia

Listing such potential candidates as VP Mike Pence, SC Gov UN Amb Nikki Haley, FL Gov Ron DeSantis, SD Gov Kristi Noem, AR Sen Tom Cotton, FL Sens Rick Scott and Marco Rubio, MO Sen Josh Hawley, TX Sen Ted Cruz.

Whether Trump has a sliver of an opportunity to run again depends on his financial and legal affairs over the next couple years. If he does survive that gauntlet, the above list is only about 20% of the Republicans who think they have a shot at the Republican Presidential nomination. Trump will be Reaganized by the GOP, where his name and memory will be held in reverence, but no one will commit to continuing his policies.
 

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Civil war between MAGA, GOP establishment could hand Dems total control | TheHill

Republican 2024 presidential hopefuls already descending on newfound battleground Georgia

Listing such potential candidates as VP Mike Pence, SC Gov UN Amb Nikki Haley, FL Gov Ron DeSantis, SD Gov Kristi Noem, AR Sen Tom Cotton, FL Sens Rick Scott and Marco Rubio, MO Sen Josh Hawley, TX Sen Ted Cruz.

Whether Trump has a sliver of an opportunity to run again depends on his financial and legal affairs over the next couple years. If he does survive that gauntlet, the above list is only about 20% of the Republicans who think they have a shot at the Republican Presidential nomination. Trump will be Reaganized by the GOP, where his name and memory will be held in reverence, but no one will commit to continuing his policies.

To your first point, whether Trump is Reaganized or Nixoned depends on his financial and legal affairs. I expect that Trump will be able to marshal enough lawyers to keep himself out of actual jail, however, I also expect a melt-down of the Trump empire. No bank will ever touch him again, all the loans will come due, and whatever he owes the Russians may very well come out of this hide.
 

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To your first point, whether Trump is Reaganized or Nixoned depends on his financial and legal affairs. I expect that Trump will be able to marshal enough lawyers to keep himself out of actual jail, however, I also expect a melt-down of the Trump empire. No bank will ever touch him again, all the loans will come due, and whatever he owes the Russians may very well come out of this hide.

Meh. As long as he is raking in $100m/month on his email scam, he can pay off his debts including to Putin, and bankroll his 2024 campaign while hanging on to all his properties and retaining an army of lawyers. It's called WINNING. The GOP is suckling at that teat too, so they're not going to give up on him any time soon. The question is when will he run out of suckers and losers he can keep bilking?
 

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To your first point, whether Trump is Reaganized or Nixoned depends on his financial and legal affairs. I expect that Trump will be able to marshal enough lawyers to keep himself out of actual jail, however, I also expect a melt-down of the Trump empire. No bank will ever touch him again, all the loans will come due, and whatever he owes the Russians may very well come out of this hide.

Meh. As long as he is raking in $100m/month on his email scam, he can pay off his debts including to Putin, and bankroll his 2024 campaign while hanging on to all his properties and retaining an army of lawyers. It's called WINNING. The GOP is suckling at that teat too, so they're not going to give up on him any time soon. The question is when will he run out of suckers and losers he can keep bilking?
Sure PACs can be abused to a huge degree, but it would be hard to hide paying his LLC debts with 10s of millions of dollars from a PAC. Additionally, I'd guess that the money train will slow greatly by 20 January 2021. Just how bad Clownstick's LLCs financial situation is, I have no freaking clue... His marketing of 'Trump' as a brand to license out is probably almost dead, which is where most of his revenue was coming from what I've read.
 

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To your first point, whether Trump is Reaganized or Nixoned depends on his financial and legal affairs. I expect that Trump will be able to marshal enough lawyers to keep himself out of actual jail, however, I also expect a melt-down of the Trump empire. No bank will ever touch him again, all the loans will come due, and whatever he owes the Russians may very well come out of this hide.

Meh. As long as he is raking in $100m/month on his email scam, he can pay off his debts including to Putin, and bankroll his 2024 campaign while hanging on to all his properties and retaining an army of lawyers. It's called WINNING. The GOP is suckling at that teat too, so they're not going to give up on him any time soon. The question is when will he run out of suckers and losers he can keep bilking?
Sure PACs can be abused to a huge degree, but it would be hard to hide paying his LLC debts with 10s of millions of dollars from a PAC. Additionally, I'd guess that the money train will slow greatly by 20 January 2021. Just how bad Clownstick's LLCs financial situation is, I have no freaking clue... His marketing of 'Trump' as a brand to license out is probably almost dead, which is where most of his revenue was coming from what I've read.

Mobsters are always running multiple games... but I doubt that he has anything going that is nearly as lucrative as playing victim to his rubes. I'm not so sure they're going to give up on him after he is banished from the White House.
 

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Civil war between MAGA, GOP establishment could hand Dems total control | TheHill

Republican 2024 presidential hopefuls already descending on newfound battleground Georgia

Listing such potential candidates as VP Mike Pence, SC Gov UN Amb Nikki Haley, FL Gov Ron DeSantis, SD Gov Kristi Noem, AR Sen Tom Cotton, FL Sens Rick Scott and Marco Rubio, MO Sen Josh Hawley, TX Sen Ted Cruz.

Whether Trump has a sliver of an opportunity to run again depends on his financial and legal affairs over the next couple years. If he does survive that gauntlet, the above list is only about 20% of the Republicans who think they have a shot at the Republican Presidential nomination. Trump will be Reaganized by the GOP, where his name and memory will be held in reverence, but no one will commit to continuing his policies.

But REgan got Alzheimer's and wasn't a total sociopathic narcissist; also he had a spokeswife who was somewhat respected by Repugs and by her husband.
 

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Civil war between MAGA, GOP establishment could hand Dems total control | TheHill

Republican 2024 presidential hopefuls already descending on newfound battleground Georgia

Listing such potential candidates as VP Mike Pence, SC Gov UN Amb Nikki Haley, FL Gov Ron DeSantis, SD Gov Kristi Noem, AR Sen Tom Cotton, FL Sens Rick Scott and Marco Rubio, MO Sen Josh Hawley, TX Sen Ted Cruz.

Whether Trump has a sliver of an opportunity to run again depends on his financial and legal affairs over the next couple years. If he does survive that gauntlet, the above list is only about 20% of the Republicans who think they have a shot at the Republican Presidential nomination. Trump will be Reaganized by the GOP, where his name and memory will be held in reverence, but no one will commit to continuing his policies.

But REgan got Alzheimer's and wasn't a total sociopathic narcissist; also he had a spokeswife who was somewhat respected by Repugs and by her husband.

I was never a Reagan fan but he got the handle "The Great Communicator." My vote for Trumpy's epitaph is " The Insulter."
 

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Most Republicans, independents believe Trump will run in 2024: poll | TheHill
According to the poll, conducted from Dec. 4-6 among 1,990 registered voters, 76 percent of Republicans polled say that a Trump 2024 run is likely, with 60 percent of independents concurring.

The poll found that just 47 percent of Democratic respondents believed Trump will run again in the next general election year. The survey had a 2 percentage-point margin of error.

Four reasons Donald Trump will likely become a spent force | TheHill
1) A substantial number of Americans who embraced Trump because he advanced their evangelical or economic agenda or because he stuck a finger in the eye of the establishment may stop hanging on every tweet when he relinquishes the platform, prerogatives and power of the presidency. ...

2) Aspirants for the Republican presidential nomination in 2024 are already stirring. A shortlist includes Vice President Pence, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), and former South Carolina Governor and United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley. ...

3) The mountain of litigation Trump faces will very likely result in politically as well as personally damaging revelations about him. ...

4) Legitimate questions have been raised about Trump’s health. ...
Hmmm...
 

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To your first point, whether Trump is Reaganized or Nixoned depends on his financial and legal affairs. I expect that Trump will be able to marshal enough lawyers to keep himself out of actual jail, however, I also expect a melt-down of the Trump empire. No bank will ever touch him again, all the loans will come due, and whatever he owes the Russians may very well come out of this hide.

Meh. As long as he is raking in $100m/month on his email scam, he can pay off his debts including to Putin, and bankroll his 2024 campaign while hanging on to all his properties and retaining an army of lawyers. It's called WINNING. The GOP is suckling at that teat too, so they're not going to give up on him any time soon. The question is when will he run out of suckers and losers he can keep bilking?

My prediction is that once the Trump brand is no longer an international phenomenon, and people stop letting him put his name on high class hotels, he will buy out a distressed motel chain in the US South, slap some gaudy gold paint on all the "new" Trump Resorts Hotels Motels, and his rubes will flock to them. He will soak them for $100 a night to stay in cockroach infested rooms, but they will lap it up just so they can say they stayed at a Trump property.
 

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To your first point, whether Trump is Reaganized or Nixoned depends on his financial and legal affairs. I expect that Trump will be able to marshal enough lawyers to keep himself out of actual jail, however, I also expect a melt-down of the Trump empire. No bank will ever touch him again, all the loans will come due, and whatever he owes the Russians may very well come out of this hide.

Meh. As long as he is raking in $100m/month on his email scam, he can pay off his debts including to Putin, and bankroll his 2024 campaign while hanging on to all his properties and retaining an army of lawyers. It's called WINNING. The GOP is suckling at that teat too, so they're not going to give up on him any time soon. The question is when will he run out of suckers and losers he can keep bilking?

My prediction is that once the Trump brand is no longer an international phenomenon, and people stop letting him put his name on high class hotels, he will buy out a distressed motel chain in the US South, slap some gaudy gold paint on all the "new" Trump Resorts Hotels Motels, and his rubes will flock to them. He will soak them for $100 a night to stay in cockroach infested rooms, but they will lap it up just so they can say they stayed at a Trump property.
As well, how far downmarket is Ivanka willing to go to peddle her made-in-China women's clothes and jewels. She could also go into marketing cheap perfume, giving it some "scandalous" brandname.
 

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So what's next for Trump? - Page 2
both parties have for the last 60 years at least been pretty predictable in this regard:
either accidentally stumble into letting someone vaguely different and interesting grab the nomination, or insert the next boring-as-shit bran muffin political appointment who's "turn" it is to get to try to be president.
it seems kind of random which way they go with it, though more often than not it seems the bran muffins get trotted out to go up against incumbents and the vaguely unique ones get sparked after a double term is ending.
my prediction would be the next conservative will be an insider pick that gets trotted out to be the 'responsible' one that will 'make the GOP great again" - what's jeb bush doing these days? or maybe ted cruz.
I then made a list:
  • 1968: Richard Nixon (R): different, Hubert Humphrey (D): bran muffin
  • 1972: Richard Nixon (R): different, George McGovern (D): different
  • 1976: Jimmy Carter (D): different, Jerry Ford (R): bran muffin
  • 1980: Ronald Reagan (R): different, Jimmy Carter (D): different
  • 1984: Ronald Reagan (R): different, Walter Mondale (D): bran muffin
  • 1988: George Bush I (R): bran muffin, Mike Dukakis (D): bran muffin
  • 1992: Bill Clinton (D): different, George Bush I (R): bran muffin
  • 1996: Bill Clinton (D): different, Bob Dole (R): bran muffin
  • 2000: George Bush II (R): different, Al Gore (D): bran muffin
  • 2004: George Bush II (R): different, John Kerry (D): bran muffin
  • 2008: Barack Obama (D): different, John McCain (R): bran muffin
  • 2012: Barack Obama (D): different, Mitt Romney (R): bran muffin
  • 2016: Donald Trump (R): different, Hillary Clinton (D): bran muffin
  • 2020: Joe Biden (D): bran muffin, Donald Trump (R): different
Bran muffins seldom win, so Joe Biden is rather unusual.

I'll now consider the success rate of Presidents who have tried to run for re-election and compare the success of primary challenges.
  • 1972: Richard Nixon 92% won
  • 1976: Jerry Ford: 54% lost
  • 1980: Jimmy Carter: 55% lost
  • 1984: Ronald Reagan: 99.80% won
  • 1992: George Bush I: 68% lost
  • 1996: Bill Clinton: 92% won
  • 2004: George Bush II: 99.20% won
  • 2012: Barack Obama: 95% won
Uncommitted votes ignored. JF was challenged by RR and JC by Teddy Kennedy.
 

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Collecting the numbers:
  • Win: 92% 92% 95% 99.20% 99.80%
  • Lose: 54% 55% 68%
So the Presidents with weaker primary challenges were those that won. Trump is an exception, since his primary challengers this year barely tried.


Trump 'Is the Republican Party,' Pollster Says as President Hoards Campaign Donations
Republican pollster John McLaughlin said President Donald Trump is now effectively the Republican Party as the president continues to bring in campaign donations ahead of the Georgia Senate runoffs on January 5.

His comments come as Trump's new leadership PAC, Save America, is making fundraising appeals and calling on the president's supporters to help Republican Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue win reelection.

But Save America does not appear to be spending on the Georgia Senate elections, according to ABC News, citing ad placement data and campaign disclosures.
So Trump cheats his donors also. Seems like this is how he'll finance his upcoming political career.
 

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Collecting the numbers:
  • Win: 92% 92% 95% 99.20% 99.80%
  • Lose: 54% 55% 68%
So the Presidents with weaker primary challenges were those that won. Trump is an exception, since his primary challengers this year barely tried.


Trump 'Is the Republican Party,' Pollster Says as President Hoards Campaign Donations
Republican pollster John McLaughlin said President Donald Trump is now effectively the Republican Party as the president continues to bring in campaign donations ahead of the Georgia Senate runoffs on January 5.

His comments come as Trump's new leadership PAC, Save America, is making fundraising appeals and calling on the president's supporters to help Republican Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue win reelection.

But Save America does not appear to be spending on the Georgia Senate elections, according to ABC News, citing ad placement data and campaign disclosures.
So Trump cheats his donors also. Seems like this is how he'll finance his upcoming political media career.

FTFY
 

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Romney: GOP 'has strayed' from what he once knew - POLITICO
Appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union,” the Utah Republican and past GOP presidential nominee said his party has taken a “different course” from its embrace of free trade, concerns about government spending and hawkishness on Russia.

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Instead, he said, it has pivoted toward emulating President Donald Trump.

“The party that I knew is one that was very concerned about Russia and [Vladimir] Putin and Kim Jong Un and North Korea, and we pushed back aggressively against them,” Romney said. “We were a party concerned about balancing the budget.”

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On Sunday, the Utah senator characterized the GOP he once knew as one that placed importance on the character of its leaders. Now, he said, he represents a small slice of the party.

“We’ve strayed from that. I don't see us returning to that for a long time,” Romney lamented. “As I look at the 2024 [GOP presidential] contenders, most of them are trying to become as much like Donald Trump as they can be.”
He ought to try to organize a faction of the Republican Party to support his positions.
 

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Romney: GOP 'has strayed' from what he once knew - POLITICO
Appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union,” the Utah Republican and past GOP presidential nominee said his party has taken a “different course” from its embrace of free trade, concerns about government spending and hawkishness on Russia.

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Instead, he said, it has pivoted toward emulating President Donald Trump.

“The party that I knew is one that was very concerned about Russia and [Vladimir] Putin and Kim Jong Un and North Korea, and we pushed back aggressively against them,” Romney said. “We were a party concerned about balancing the budget.”

...
On Sunday, the Utah senator characterized the GOP he once knew as one that placed importance on the character of its leaders. Now, he said, he represents a small slice of the party.

“We’ve strayed from that. I don't see us returning to that for a long time,” Romney lamented. “As I look at the 2024 [GOP presidential] contenders, most of them are trying to become as much like Donald Trump as they can be.”
He ought to try to organize a faction of the Republican Party to support his positions.

He ought to do what any creature with a spine ought to do, and leave the Republican Party. This is what Romney always does, he throws out some worthless gesture, but continues to remain in, support, and enjoy the benefits of the party that he claims is betraying every principle for which they stand. There is no line in the sand too far for him, but he's sure gonna let you know how much it pains him every time his party steps over the next line.
 

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Collecting the numbers:
  • Win: 92% 92% 95% 99.20% 99.80%
  • Lose: 54% 55% 68%
So the Presidents with weaker primary challenges were those that won. Trump is an exception, since his primary challengers this year barely tried.


Trump 'Is the Republican Party,' Pollster Says as President Hoards Campaign Donations
Republican pollster John McLaughlin said President Donald Trump is now effectively the Republican Party as the president continues to bring in campaign donations ahead of the Georgia Senate runoffs on January 5.

His comments come as Trump's new leadership PAC, Save America, is making fundraising appeals and calling on the president's supporters to help Republican Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue win reelection.

But Save America does not appear to be spending on the Georgia Senate elections, according to ABC News, citing ad placement data and campaign disclosures.
So Trump cheats his donors also. Seems like this is how he'll finance his upcoming political media career.

FTFY
Could be both, but a fake political career can be paid with by campaign donations. If he did a media company... well... he can't he doesn't have the cash. He could appear on OANN, maybe get his name branded on the channel, but that'd be about it.
 

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The new center of Trump's political world: Palm Beach - POLITICO
n anticipation of Trump setting up permanent residence at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach after leaving the White House in January, Trump allies, conservative media firebrands and MAGA-boosting activist groups are setting up the next Trumpy hub of GOP power.

Some Trump supporters have settled in South Florida, drawn by Florida’s friendly tax climate and the state’s current GOP leadership. Other prominent MAGA groups, like the student organizing outfit Turning Point USA, are holding events in the area. And the next Conservative Political Action Conference, the annual gathering of the GOP’s most conservative factions, will even be held a couple hours drive north, in Orlando.

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Taken together, the moves will inevitably make the Palm Beach area and Florida ground zero for the MAGA movement, giving Trump convenient access to potential donors and some of his most devoted allies as he plots a potential 2024 comeback bid. Unlike previous presidents, like Barack Obama and George W. Bush, who quietly entered their post-presidency and spent time working on their books or picking up oil painting, Trump is expected to cannonball into his next chapter by keeping a hold on his political base with the help of his family, antagonizing the Biden administration on Twitter, and holding MAGA events. Supporters will continue to flock to Palm Beach, even as it grates on many long-time residents, who see their locale as a quiet enclave above politics and are fighting the president over a permanent move to Mar-a-Lago.
What kind of a career might he have? Would he become a talk-show host? I'm trying to think of something that would keep him visible.
 

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The new center of Trump's political world: Palm Beach - POLITICO
n anticipation of Trump setting up permanent residence at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach after leaving the White House in January, Trump allies, conservative media firebrands and MAGA-boosting activist groups are setting up the next Trumpy hub of GOP power.

Some Trump supporters have settled in South Florida, drawn by Florida’s friendly tax climate and the state’s current GOP leadership. Other prominent MAGA groups, like the student organizing outfit Turning Point USA, are holding events in the area. And the next Conservative Political Action Conference, the annual gathering of the GOP’s most conservative factions, will even be held a couple hours drive north, in Orlando.

...
Taken together, the moves will inevitably make the Palm Beach area and Florida ground zero for the MAGA movement, giving Trump convenient access to potential donors and some of his most devoted allies as he plots a potential 2024 comeback bid. Unlike previous presidents, like Barack Obama and George W. Bush, who quietly entered their post-presidency and spent time working on their books or picking up oil painting, Trump is expected to cannonball into his next chapter by keeping a hold on his political base with the help of his family, antagonizing the Biden administration on Twitter, and holding MAGA events. Supporters will continue to flock to Palm Beach, even as it grates on many long-time residents, who see their locale as a quiet enclave above politics and are fighting the president over a permanent move to Mar-a-Lago.
What kind of a career might he have? Would he become a talk-show host? I'm trying to think of something that would keep him visible.

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What kind of a career might he have? Would he become a talk-show host? I'm trying to think of something that would keep him visible.

What would he consider worthy of a president (or him)? Could there be anything?

Boy Orange could never become a conservative talk show host as he gets frustrated too easily simply because he isn't very smart and tends to shit his pants on command. He's an asset to progressive causes if we can just keep him flapping his mouth. It's no accident that conservatives lost the WH, didn't regain the House and may very well lose the Senate. We can thank Orange Mouth for this.
 

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What kind of a career might he have? Would he become a talk-show host? I'm trying to think of something that would keep him visible.

What would he consider worthy of a president (or him)? Could there be anything?

I'm thinking standing tall in his 3" lift shoes in front of a firing squad would be a classic "leader" pose... I'm sure a lot of people would watch. Best ratings EV-ERRRR.
 

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What kind of a career might he have? Would he become a talk-show host? I'm trying to think of something that would keep him visible.

What would he consider worthy of a president (or him)? Could there be anything?

I'm thinking standing tall in his 3" lift shoes in front of a firing squad would be a classic "leader" pose... I'm sure a lot of people would watch. Best ratings EV-ERRRR.

Not a firing squad. Shooting gallery.
Pay $500 to shoot one BB at him as he stumbles down a ramp 30 feet from the gallery.
For $1000, you get two BBs to shoot at the shooters from 50 feet away, giving the idiot cover fire.
For $2000, you can run the supermagnet over him to pull out the BBs that hit.
 

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Boy Orange could never become a conservative talk show host as he gets frustrated too easily simply because he isn't very smart and tends to shit his pants on command.
He'd have to have a critical but very short, non-interactive role. Someone else takes the guest thru their paces, then we cut to commentary by Trump. Like Statler and Waldorf, maybe?
Isolated, off to the side of events, but center-camera. Interchangeable commentary, they could film his reaction shots gor the week in one morning.
 

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What kind of a career might he have? Would he become a talk-show host? I'm trying to think of something that would keep him visible.
President-in-exile. He has never so much as suggested that he would consider stepping down from his current role. Which, of course, he barely performs. But he'll continue doing the same things: rallying, tweeting, giving people in the GOP vague and contradictory marching orders. He'll just be doing it without official power, and as now, only a fifth of the government will recognize his authority to give those orders.
 

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Could be both, but a fake political career can be paid with by campaign donations. If he did a media company... well... he can't he doesn't have the cash. He could appear on OANN, maybe get his name branded on the channel, but that'd be about it.

I remember when Trump was so rich he didn't need campaign donations.

Of course, I also remember when Trump had evidence that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

Tom
 

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I don't think Trump will be in any condition to run in 2024, but I did see my first "Trump 2024" sign today. Sheesh. Some people really don't want to leave the cult.

I'm wondering if the rest of the Trump signs will come down after Biden is inaugurated on the 20th. There was a sign about a mile from my house that read: "Never Hillary" that was only taken down after Biden won the primaries. I live near a bunch of lunatics!
 
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