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Tucker Carlson: white nationalism vs civic nationalism

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https://twitter.com/JackSmithIV/status/1038445273687699456

https://www.facebook.com/MicMedia/videos/1791717714184344/

I wasn't able to find a YouTube link. Sorry.

The video demonstrates how Tucker Carlson has been using white nationalist talking points. The usual people deny this of course, but that doesn't change the fact that Carlson is making the same arguments as white nationalists. Even if you insist that we should not apply the label, the fact remains that he is promoting many of the same beliefs, so the difference is academic.

Anyway, the point I want to make is about civic nationalism vs white nationalism (or the euphemism "ethnic nationalism" that cryptofascists like to use), as this can help you spot white nationalists given that they are rarely honest about who and what they are.

Americans believe that Americans share a common identity through ideas, mainly ideas about how to arrange government, how to hold government accountable, and the proper relationship between the individual and society and/or the government.

White nationalists believe that American identity is based on blood, that only white Anglo-Saxon protestants count as American at all and everyone else is a dirty outsider. Of course, if you think identity through blood is the most important thing, then we need to acknowledge that we stole this country from the people who were already living here, and send everyone else back to whatever countries our ancestors came from.

Anyway, if you've seen any of the many videos on social media covering racist tirades, you probably scratched your head like I did that many of these racists seem to think that people who are obviously American don't count as American just because they are the wrong race, ethnicity, religion, etc.

This confused the heck out of me because like most Americans, I was taught that our national identity and sense of nationalism came from shared ideas/ideals. It turns out that a rather large percentage of white people don't think anyone else counts as American at all, which is why so many of those ranting racists on those videos on social media say those bizarre things.
 
Carlson is a bit simple minded probably reading scripts off a teleprompter.

I watch him for a good laugh.
 
At the very least, to confuse the very least, if Fox News were better integrated, they'd be much less less confuse Aretha Franklin and Patti LaBelle.

THey'd also be much less likely to call a person like Common a "thug.
 
Carlson asks: "What are our ideals?"

Our strongest ideal is probably our endorsement of freedom of speech.

And most importantly the freedom to question the actions of the government which is not an elected monarchy although that is exactly what it looks like.

When spokespeople for the government come out and tell provable lies the government is acting exactly like monarchy.

We have lost the democracy.

Another ideal Tucker.

The analysis in the video is first rate.

And it is not that you could take all the whites out and replace them and you would have the same country.

You wouldn't. You would have a different country that still may have millions of racists.

The point is: When you remove and ignore American ideals you have changed the country.

When you speak out against democracy and freedom of speech and equality in the law you are trying to change the country.
 
At the very least, to confuse the very least, if Fox News were better integrated, they'd be much less less confuse Aretha Franklin and Patti LaBelle.

THey'd also be much less likely to call a person like Common a "thug.

Yeah, unlike MSNBC who employs Al "R-E-S-P-I-C-T" Sharpton. :)
 
Tucker has been desperately trying to recover from that dressing down Jon Stewart gave him years ago. I don't think he ever really will fully do so.
 
At the very least, to confuse the very least, if Fox News were better integrated, they'd be much less less confuse Aretha Franklin and Patti LaBelle.

THey'd also be much less likely to call a person like Common a "thug.

Yeah, unlike MSNBC who employs Al "R-E-S-P-I-C-T" Sharpton. :)

Oh look, another what-aboutism tu quoque fallacy used to suddenly change the subject.

Thanks for admitting that Tucker Carlson is indeed a racist. You're wrong about Sharpton being also racist, but the fact that you used this argument at all to change the subject proves that you know the arguments being leveled against Carlson are right.

There, see?

Is it really so bad to admit that you're a racist?
 
Carlson is a bit simple minded probably reading scripts off a teleprompter.

I watch him for a good laugh.

White nationalism is funny to you?

I saw Jim Crow in action firsthand when I was in the service in Memphis area in the VN war. I got on a busn in Mephis and sat next to a black person dewing anger from the driver.

He is a joke. I doubt many at FOX are card carrying racists. The on air anchors are in it for the money. That is obvious.

White nationalism is in a way a joke. The best response is to laugh at it and let the legal system work to keep it restrained.

Ever hear of Louis Franken and black nationalism Nation Of Islam? He advocated banning interracial marriage among other thing.. Try and take a balanced view to culture issues.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan
 
Tucker Carlson Congratulates Himself For ‘Honesty’ In His Expressed Racism

Even the loathsome maggot himself admits it...

[FONT=&quot]The only thing more nauseating than listening to Tucker Carlson suggest he’d love nothing better than an ethnic cleansing in America was seeing him pat himself on the back for his “honesty” and holding himself up as a paragon of tolerance.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As he often does, Carlson couched this bit of white nationalism in an “I’m just asking the questions nobody else has the courage to ask” pretense.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Carlson’s attack on diversity began with Democrats Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton calling diversity a “strength” of this country. But despite the fact that “E pluribus unum” (out of many one) appears on our country’s Great Seal and our coinage, Carlson wants you to think he’s more American for suggesting that diversity is exactly what’s wrong with the U.S.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“It’s hard to know exactly what it means, though,” Carlson said, other than “stop talking or else.” With his furrowed brow that’s a stand in for sincere thoughtfulness, he declared, “We won’t stop talking.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A lower-third banner read: “RULING CLASS REPEATS ‘DIVERSITY’ MANTRA.” Given that Carlson couldn’t be a more entrenched member of the ruling class, that’s yet another piece of dishonesty.


More at....

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/09/tucker-carlson-congratulates-himself[/FONT]
 
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