Malintent
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I actually think that is a good idea... and for there to be sanctions of some kind against parents that send kids to school with a fever, while we're at it during this Flu season.
Shaved heads and uniforms... not the only institution to adopt an anti-individualism policy. Individualism is for College, not for grade school where you first need to learn HOW to learn.
That said, the hair types you mention can certainly be combed sufficiently to reveal any eggs.. .the problem is when the hair is braided, tied, dreaded, or otherwise made knotted beyond being able to be combed at all - even just medically.
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You can theoretically remove lice and eggs by soaking dreads in alcohol. However, without combing, one cannot CONFIRM the eggs have been killed until they hatch (or don't).
So while one may be able to rid themselves of lice, they will not be able to get themselves back in school because a combing of the hair cannot be done to demonstrate removal or death of the eggs.
There are certain treatments that claim to treat the lice and their eggs such as MOOV Head Lice Solution, KP24 (and claims to protect against re-infestation).
Some other remedies, though they don't kill the eggs work if applied every three days to any type of hair. This would include some home remedies and as you mentioned the use of alcohol.
and how, after ALLEGED treatment by the parent at home, does the school confirm it is safe for the kid to return to the population without danger of spreading the problem? If a kid is sent home from school with a fever, many schools require a clean bill of health from a doctor to allow the kid back.. so how do we do this with a lice problem in a kid who cannot pass a comb through even one time a little bit just to show no eggs.
Having lice is not having a disease and they are removable with treatments. Clean and not so clean people get lice.
Yeah, lice are merely gross, not dangerous. Amusingly, many of the people that oppose keeping kids out of school that are a real danger to others because they haven't been vaccinated are likely to support keeping kids out of school for only some of the conveniently chosen hairstyles that might make it harder to get rid of lice if the person happens to get lice which are not dangerous.
interesting point... still, school uniforms (and the associated hairstyle restrictions, etc..) are resurging. Implementation of a set of standards that limit individualism in the classroom have proven to be effective and are coming back, especially in the UK recently. So, no need to make anti-dreeds about limiting access to school, but rather this should be a discussion about the value of setting certain standards that have historically proven a positive thing.
There is no way to limit hairstyles for the purpose of "uniformity" without essentially requiring everyone of both genders to shave their heads. If some kids cannot have dreads and cornrows, then others cannot use hairspray, get perms, use curling irons, etc.. Any attempt to allow some but not all "styles" will be arbitrary and inherently biased against some kids of some natural hair properties. Also, any restrictions (including length) that are not identical for boys and girls is inherently coercive in forcing gender norms that is unacceptable for public shchools in any society pretending to be something other than fascistic.
Besides, there is actually zero evidence that hair restrictions themselves do anything positive. Whatever evidence their is for "uniformity" effects entails countless different restrictions being implemented at once, many of them having nothing to do with appearance. So, no valid inferences can be drawn than any particular restriction does anything. They all might do a little, or one might do a lot and the others nothing or even have slightly negative impacts.
I completely agree that all restrictions should be acted upon uniformly. dreads should not be allowed on ANYONE.. not just blacks.. whites, Asians, Indians, etc... all should not be allowed to wear hairstyles that are considered inappropriate for the institution these minors are subject to attending. Hairspray, "jerry curls", grease, whatever... all can be washed out simply for the purpose of passing a comb through. braids can be removed... hats can be removed... dreads cannot be removed... that is the only hairstyle known to man that is irreversibly impossible to pass a comb through. cornrows is just a tight braid (am I wrong about that?) that can be unbraided if need be.
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I actually think that is a good idea... and for there to be sanctions of some kind against parents that send kids to school with a fever, while we're at it during this Flu season.
Shaved heads and uniforms... not the only institution to adopt an anti-individualism policy. Individualism is for College, not for grade school where you first need to learn HOW to learn.
That said, the hair types you mention can certainly be combed sufficiently to reveal any eggs.. .the problem is when the hair is braided, tied, dreaded, or otherwise made knotted beyond being able to be combed at all - even just medically.
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You can theoretically remove lice and eggs by soaking dreads in alcohol. However, without combing, one cannot CONFIRM the eggs have been killed until they hatch (or don't).
So while one may be able to rid themselves of lice, they will not be able to get themselves back in school because a combing of the hair cannot be done to demonstrate removal or death of the eggs.
There are certain treatments that claim to treat the lice and their eggs such as MOOV Head Lice Solution, KP24 (and claims to protect against re-infestation).
Some other remedies, though they don't kill the eggs work if applied every three days to any type of hair. This would include some home remedies and as you mentioned the use of alcohol.
and how, after ALLEGED treatment by the parent at home, does the school confirm it is safe for the kid to return to the population without danger of spreading the problem? If a kid is sent home from school with a fever, many schools require a clean bill of health from a doctor to allow the kid back.. so how do we do this with a lice problem in a kid who cannot pass a comb through even one time a little bit just to show no eggs.
Having lice is not having a disease and they are removable with treatments. Clean and not so clean people get lice.
Yeah, lice are merely gross, not dangerous. Amusingly, many of the people that oppose keeping kids out of school that are a real danger to others because they haven't been vaccinated are likely to support keeping kids out of school for only some of the conveniently chosen hairstyles that might make it harder to get rid of lice if the person happens to get lice which are not dangerous.
interesting point... still, school uniforms (and the associated hairstyle restrictions, etc..) are resurging. Implementation of a set of standards that limit individualism in the classroom have proven to be effective and are coming back, especially in the UK recently. So, no need to make anti-dreeds about limiting access to school, but rather this should be a discussion about the value of setting certain standards that have historically proven a positive thing.
There is no way to limit hairstyles for the purpose of "uniformity" without essentially requiring everyone of both genders to shave their heads. If some kids cannot have dreads and cornrows, then others cannot use hairspray, get perms, use curling irons, etc.. Any attempt to allow some but not all "styles" will be arbitrary and inherently biased against some kids of some natural hair properties. Also, any restrictions (including length) that are not identical for boys and girls is inherently coercive in forcing gender norms that is unacceptable for public shchools in any society pretending to be something other than fascistic.
Besides, there is actually zero evidence that hair restrictions themselves do anything positive. Whatever evidence their is for "uniformity" effects entails countless different restrictions being implemented at once, many of them having nothing to do with appearance. So, no valid inferences can be drawn than any particular restriction does anything. They all might do a little, or one might do a lot and the others nothing or even have slightly negative impacts.
You don't see to grasp the whole concept of free association well. In a free society I don't need a scientific proof to hire the people I want to hire, or reject a job I want to reject. It's my call, not yours.
That depends on whether we are talking about a public or private school, though. If a private school, you are correct. If public, then your personal freedom (as the 'decider' for the public school) is moot.