Lynch, lynch, lynch the nuts are honking!
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Lynch, lynch, lynch the nuts are honking!
In which case they'd have this many dead every day, even if the politzei had to do it for them!
As with the IRA, people listen to their parents unsupported 'historical' memories, and it takes generations to outgrow the myths. We're not Americans, so we'll have to wait and see, but the dreadful history of imperialism in the Middle East, up to and including Bliar's merry doings, make someone (drunk, criminal and ignorant of the religion) of Muslim background not unlikely. By and large, English Nazis tend to murder admirable individuals. It is people like American Republicans who hate whole populations, I think.
repoman
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is Katie Hopkins going to prison finally?
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To clarify we still don't know who did this. Let's see what happens. Muslims don't do such things. Just one or two do.
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You accidentally linked to a fake news site
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Are you thinking about the Yazidi genocide? That didn't target children specifically. That targetted everybody. While just as awful, was spun by them as a kind of defence of the faith, involving sex slaves, which apparently is ok according to the Quran if you read between the lines. The attack in Manchester obviously wasn't genocide. It was an attack on teenage girls. Only. Nobody (except Kellyanne Conway) can put a positive spin on that. Not even the most bonkers religous extremist, no matter how tightly they've tied their turban.
Read the New Testament and then the history of the Crusades. In what sense were the latter crimes 'Christian' terrorism? Your hatred is scrambling your brain.
Well, good, if Muslims don't do these things we won't have to endure the usual stream of Muslim apologism we get in the wake of Muslims doing these things this time.
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The Swedish attacker wasn't. It turned out that he'd been lying to his wife and family about how super he was doing in Sweden. He just couldn't bear the embarrassement of it if he went home. So he tried to kill himself by committing a terrorrist attack. As if that somehow would mask his shame. Which it of couse didn't. It's hard to see how Islam entered into that one. He only became militant a month before the attack. And the attack itself must have taken at least that long to plan. It's most likely that he first thought of suicide, and afterwards thought of the way to kill himself.
Anyhoo... lets wait to see if this one is similar before we blame anything in particular.
Normally, at the moment, pretend 'Muslims' tend to do these things, as in the past it was people of Irish background who believed their drunken parents. There are also Nazis and nutters in profusion in all societies, and civilised persons wait to find out the facts as established in a court of law.
CNN reporting now that ISIS has claimed responsibility but no real evidence that they actually did it yet.
It must be harrowing to be a Muslim and hear about an event like this. The first thought must be to hope it isn't a Muslim, knowing that it probably is. It is like a never-ending PR disaster.
It must be harrowing to be a Muslim and hear about an event like this. The first thought must be to hope it isn't a Muslim, knowing that it probably is. It is like a never-ending PR disaster.
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How responsible did you feel when Dylan Roof murdered the people in the church?
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Higgins Law - The value of arguments via jpeg memes is proportional to the fraction of 0 divided by the number of images used, times the number of words in the meme.
Salman Abedi. Could be Irish.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ariana-...rena-bombing-suspect-salman-abedi-isis-claim/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ariana-...rena-bombing-suspect-salman-abedi-isis-claim/
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Because he might share a similar range on the skin-tone spectrum with Roof?
Islam isn't a skin tone or an ethnicity. It is a choice to accept and endorse a set of inherently authoritarian, anti-liberty, intolerant and irrational assumptions about reality and morality. Beliefs and values are THE cause of human action. Skin tone is not. So, when someone acts in an irrationally intolerant way and says it is due to their core beliefs that are at their logical base irrational and intolerant, then others who either do or pretend to share the set of core beliefs should feel guilty. If they don't endorse those actions, then they should (most of them for the first time in their life) honestly re-evaluate their claimed core beliefs for what they logically presume and thus inherently promote and decide whether they should keep endorsing those beliefs by adopting the labels and ritual dressings those beliefs gave rise to.
Religion is essentially a political ideology. Thus, a far closer analogy is "Should members of the Nazi party have felt guilty over the actions of Hitler and other Nazis, even if they personally did not agree with those actions?" Or, should registered Republicans who voted to give control of Congress to the GOP and who donate to the GOP and thus empower it to do what it wants, feel responsibility for the harm a GOP policy cause others, even when they don't agree with that specific GOP policy?
(hint: The answer to both is yes)
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Yet millions have no issue living peacefully.
Why should people that live peaceful lives have to recant a religion because a minority of those that share said religion are extremist nuts? Why are they held to such a standard of the actions of other people? Millions of Muslims live in the US productively and peacefully.
Godwin Error... Divide by 0 error...
All the Nazis deserved much worse than they got, because they were all committed to very nasty racism. Muslims are not committed to terrorism: it is a product of Saudi heresy.
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Good to see nothing changes - the usual suspects jump to conclusions for no compelling reason whatsoever.