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US House Speaker-A-Rama

Ryan has released his demands, the right-wing has rejected them. Boehner has scheduled a vote for next Wednesday.

All reports point to fail and a government shutdown.
 
I saw a brief clip of Ryan speechifying but didn't catch what he said. I thought it was one of those "I really dont want this but since you insist" acceptance speeches. What were his demands?
 
I saw a brief clip of Ryan speechifying but didn't catch what he said. I thought it was one of those "I really dont want this but since you insist" acceptance speeches. What were his demands?

Basically that he is in charge, there will be no shutdown, and nobody is allowed to disrupt his freetime.
 
I saw a brief clip of Ryan speechifying but didn't catch what he said. I thought it was one of those "I really dont want this but since you insist" acceptance speeches. What were his demands?

Basically, his demands amount to:

1) Promise to let me do whatever I want, and
2) Promise to do whatever I say
 
To be fairer to Ryan, he wanted power to negotiate without having to worry about the Impossibilist Caucus stabbing him in the back. In other words, he demanded basic party discipline, and wouldn't accept being Speaker in name only.
 
A Party divided against itself cannot stand.

I never thought I'd live to see the day when the Republican Party became such a bunch of panty-poopers.
 
Boehner has scheduled a vote for next Wednesday.

Interesting.

A party caucus vote, or the real vote (full House)? If the latter, we could wind up with a Republican speaker elected with a majority of votes from Democrates.
 
Boehner has scheduled a vote for next Wednesday.

Interesting.

A party caucus vote, or the real vote (full House)? If the latter, we could wind up with a Republican speaker elected with a majority of votes from Democrates.

I think all the Democrats should vote against whomever the GOP nominates. That way, the fractured party won't be able to elect anyone.

Sure, it would be a stupid and childish waste of time, but it's not like Congress would be doing something productive instead.
 
Interesting.

A party caucus vote, or the real vote (full House)? If the latter, we could wind up with a Republican speaker elected with a majority of votes from Democrates.

I think all the Democrats should vote against whomever the GOP nominates. That way, the fractured party won't be able to elect anyone.

Sure, it would be a stupid and childish waste of time, but it's not like Congress would be doing something productive instead.

The Dems are backing Nancy Pelosi.
 
I think all the Democrats should vote against whomever the GOP nominates. That way, the fractured party won't be able to elect anyone.

Sure, it would be a stupid and childish waste of time, but it's not like Congress would be doing something productive instead.

The Dems are backing Nancy Pelosi.
Don't they still have a large enough majority to get the establishment choice over the top? Or is a majority vote required, not just a plurality?
 
Not only this Speaker turmoil...but assuming in 6 months that the Trump is starting to win primaries (I'm assuming by a plurality, but who knows with this electorate)...are the Republicans going to create a vast implosive black hole (with Jesse Helms sitting inside, with glowing, pulsating red eyeballs?)
 
Not only this Speaker turmoil...but assuming in 6 months that the Trump is starting to win primaries (I'm assuming by a plurality, but who knows with this electorate)...are the Republicans going to create a vast implosive black hole (with Jesse Helms sitting inside, with glowing, pulsating red eyeballs?)
The idea of Trump winning primaries seemed so outlandish months ago, but now... doesn't seem impossible. Of course, if Trump wins Iowa, that should bring smiles to the Democrats as that would almost guarantee a Democrat Presidency.
 
The Dems are backing Nancy Pelosi.
Don't they still have a large enough majority to get the establishment choice over the top? Or is a majority vote required, not just a plurality?

Not sure which "they" you're referring to.

The Freedom Caucus, one assembly of the crazies, has about 40 members. They are expected to vote in a bloc and if they do not support the (presumably sole) GOP candidate there aren't enough sane (well, less insane) Republicans to constitute a majority.

Neither are there enough Democrats to constitute a majority. But all the Democrats plus 30 Republicans do make a majority, and could elect a (presumably GOP) Speaker acceptable to what's left of the moderate wing of the GOP and the Democrats.
 
Don't they still have a large enough majority to get the establishment choice over the top? Or is a majority vote required, not just a plurality?

Not sure which "they" you're referring to.

The Freedom Caucus, one assembly of the crazies, has about 40 members. They are expected to vote in a bloc and if they do not support the (presumably sole) GOP candidate there aren't enough sane (well, less insane) Republicans to constitute a majority.
But the Republicans have a greater than 40 member majority in the House.
 
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