US number 2 in prisoners per capita: liberty defending GOP Senator says that's not high enough

[ksen]

The United States has the second highest incarcerations rate per 100,000 people.

GOP liberty loving Senator Tom Cotton says the US has an "under incarceration" problem.

Last week at the Hudson Institute, Cotton tried to rebut arguments that backers of the criminal justice bill often make. He dismissed the notion that there are too many offenders in prison for relatively minor crimes and that incarceration is too expensive.

"Law enforcement is able to arrest or identify a likely perpetrator for only 19 percent of property crimes and 47 percent of violent crimes,” Cotton said. “If anything, we have an under-incarceration problem."

Nothing shows you love liberty more than wanting to put as many people in prison as possible.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Wonder why he didn't mention white collar crime percentage of arrest and conviction.

 

[cycomiko]

We can be #1. Make 'Murica great! Trump 2016

 

[Tom Sawyer]

In a completely unrelated story, private prison corporations have just announced that they're donating $200,000 to his re-election campaign.

 

[dismal]

The United States has the second highest incarcerations rate per 100,000 people.

GOP liberty loving Senator Tom Cotton says the US has an "under incarceration" problem.

Last week at the Hudson Institute, Cotton tried to rebut arguments that backers of the criminal justice bill often make. He dismissed the notion that there are too many offenders in prison for relatively minor crimes and that incarceration is too expensive.

"Law enforcement is able to arrest or identify a likely perpetrator for only 19 percent of property crimes and 47 percent of violent crimes,” Cotton said. “If anything, we have an under-incarceration problem."

Nothing shows you love liberty more than wanting to put as many people in prison as possible.

What percent of people who commit violent crimes are you for putting in prison? Less than 47%?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The United States has the second highest incarcerations rate per 100,000 people.

GOP liberty loving Senator Tom Cotton says the US has an "under incarceration" problem.



Nothing shows you love liberty more than wanting to put as many people in prison as possible.

What percent of people who commit violent crimes are you for putting in prison? Less than 47%?

Good ole dismal, missing the point of yet another OP.

 

[dismal]

What percent of people who commit violent crimes are you for putting in prison? Less than 47%?

Good ole dismal, missing the point of yet another OP.

Good old Higgins. Adding nothing.

Here's a tip: Try not posting if you can't handle a discussion that does not involve attacking posters personally.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

The United States has the second highest incarcerations rate per 100,000 people.

GOP liberty loving Senator Tom Cotton says the US has an "under incarceration" problem.



Nothing shows you love liberty more than wanting to put as many people in prison as possible.

What percent of people who commit violent crimes are you for putting in prison? Less than 47%?

Could you elaborate on your statement?

 

[ksen]

The United States has the second highest incarcerations rate per 100,000 people.

GOP liberty loving Senator Tom Cotton says the US has an "under incarceration" problem.



Nothing shows you love liberty more than wanting to put as many people in prison as possible.

What percent of people who commit violent crimes are you for putting in prison? Less than 47%?

Because i love liberty the best i think we should have everyone in prison.

 

[dismal]

What percent of people who commit violent crimes are you for putting in prison? Less than 47%?

Because i love liberty the best i think we should have everyone in prison.

You believe in liberty for violent criminals? That seems like a very uncommon belief to hold.

 

[dismal]

What percent of people who commit violent crimes are you for putting in prison? Less than 47%?

Could you elaborate on your statement?

Um, yes, if you were to take [the number of violent criminals in prison] and divide that by [all the violent criminals] what resultant number would be ideal to you?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Good ole dismal, missing the point of yet another OP.

Good old Higgins. Adding nothing.

Here's a tip: Try not posting if you can't handle a discussion that does not involve attacking posters personally.

Aw dismal, it means so much that you even bother to respond and try to sound witty.

The point was with reference to the Senator's statement "If anything, we have an under-incarceration problem."

At no point in the OP by ksen, did he suggest that people who committed violent crimes shouldn't be in prison. That was your wildly, but predictable, ridiculous presumption.

Granted, you do have bubble bias, so just to be clear, there have been oodles of threads regarding the incarceration of too many non-violent criminals and drug users.

 

[dismal]

Good old Higgins. Adding nothing.

Here's a tip: Try not posting if you can't handle a discussion that does not involve attacking posters personally.

Aw dismal, it means so much that you even bother to respond and try to sound witty.

The point was with reference to the Senator's statement "If anything, we have an under-incarceration problem."

At no point in the OP by ksen, did he suggest that people who committed violent crimes shouldn't be in prison. That was your wildly, but predictable, ridiculous presumption.

Granted, you do have bubble bias, so just to be clear, there have been oodles of threads regarding the incarceration of too many non-violent criminals and drug users.

Your higginsing up the threads with personal attacks is very tiresome. Leave and let us have a discussion about the topic.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Aw dismal, it means so much that you even bother to respond and try to sound witty.

The point was with reference to the Senator's statement "If anything, we have an under-incarceration problem."

At no point in the OP by ksen, did he suggest that people who committed violent crimes shouldn't be in prison. That was your wildly, but predictable, ridiculous presumption.

Granted, you do have bubble bias, so just to be clear, there have been oodles of threads regarding the incarceration of too many non-violent criminals and drug users.

Your higginsing up the threads with personal attacks is very tiresome. Leave and let us have a discussion about the topic.

I love you too dismal, but you really should respond to what is mentioned in posts if you are going to quote them.

 

[laughing dog]

Good ole dismal, missing the point of yet another OP.

Good old Higgins. Adding nothing.

Here's a tip: Try not posting if you can't handle a discussion that does not involve attacking posters personally.

Ah more meta-irony from the everlasting font of obtuseness.

The only way your comments are at all relevant is if you can show the US is roughly no. 2 in the world in criminal activity. Your "comments" ignore the reality that we incarcerate more per capita than almost every country on the planet that includes such bastions of civility as Guatemala and Russia. Can you substantiate your implicit assumption or will you simply regale this thread with more irrelavancies?

 

[ZiprHead]

Your higginsing up the threads with personal attacks is very tiresome. Leave and let us have a discussion about the topic.

You first.

 

[untermensche]

We have violent out of control police and any resistance to their brutality is labeled as violence.

We live in an incredibly intrusive police state where for the most part the police are above the law.

 

[ksen]

Because i love liberty the best i think we should have everyone in prison.

You believe in liberty for violent criminals? That seems like a very uncommon belief to hold.

I pledge allegiance
to the flag
of the United States of America.
And to the republic
for which it stands.
One nation
under God
Indivisible
with liberty
and justice
for all.

don't you?

 

[dismal]

You believe in liberty for violent criminals? That seems like a very uncommon belief to hold.

I pledge allegiance
to the flag
of the United States of America.
And to the republic
for which it stands.
One nation
under God
Indivisible
with liberty
and justice
for all.

don't you?

I'm Ok with liberty for all, but then taking away after they commit a violent crime. Not an uncommon position, I think.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I'm Ok with liberty for all, but then taking away after they commit a violent crime. Not an uncommon position, I think.

But what's the point? It's not like you have lower crime rates than other countries with lower levels of incarceration, so it's not all that valid to assume that higher rates of incarceration would suddenly just start to work to reduce crime.