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Voyager 2 joins Voyager 1 in interstellar space

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Or at least in the interstellar medium, as opposed to being in the solar wind. News | NASA's Voyager 2 Probe Enters Interstellar Space
For the second time in history, a human-made object has reached the space between the stars. NASA's Voyager 2 probe now has exited the heliosphere - the protective bubble of particles and magnetic fields created by the Sun.

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The most compelling evidence of Voyager 2's exit from the heliosphere came from its onboard Plasma Science Experiment (PLS), an instrument that stopped working on Voyager 1 in 1980, long before that probe crossed the heliopause. Until recently, the space surrounding Voyager 2 was filled predominantly with plasma flowing out from our Sun. This outflow, called the solar wind, creates a bubble - the heliosphere - that envelopes the planets in our solar system. The PLS uses the electrical current of the plasma to detect the speed, density, temperature, pressure and flux of the solar wind. The PLS aboard Voyager 2 observed a steep decline in the speed of the solar wind particles on Nov. 5. Since that date, the plasma instrument has observed no solar wind flow in the environment around Voyager 2, which makes mission scientists confident the probe has left the heliosphere.

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While the probes have left the heliosphere, Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 have not yet left the solar system, and won't be leaving anytime soon. The boundary of the solar system is considered to be beyond the outer edge of the Oort Cloud, a collection of small objects that are still under the influence of the Sun's gravity. The width of the Oort Cloud is not known precisely, but it is estimated to begin at about 1,000 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun and to extend to about 100,000 AU. One AU is the distance from the Sun to Earth. It will take about 300 years for Voyager 2 to reach the inner edge of the Oort Cloud and possibly 30,000 years to fly beyond it.
Their Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTG's) are still running, though they are slowly running down. The two spacecraft's cameras were shut down long ago, because there is not much to see with them in interstellar space. The two spacecraft's operators expect the RTG's to stop delivering enough current to run the spacecraft around 2025 or thereabouts.
 
From what I remember, Proxima Centauri is about 40,000 years away at Voyager speed. If the outer edge of the Oort Cloud is 30,000 Voyager years away then Oort Clouds must somehow overlap at least in terms of distance though not direction. Solar systems must therefore share space, which makes sense.

Makes things seem not so far away, though they certainly are.

There's that video somewhere that makes the Sun and Proxima into peas. At that scale they are 125 miles apart as memory serves. Pretty darn amazing how huge space is and how distant stars are from each other.
 
Seems like an awful waste of space. I’d have at least put a Denny’s or something halfway.
 
From what I remember, Proxima Centauri is about 40,000 years away at Voyager speed. If the outer edge of the Oort Cloud is 30,000 Voyager years away then Oort Clouds must somehow overlap at least in terms of distance though not direction. Solar systems must therefore share space, which makes sense.

Makes things seem not so far away, though they certainly are.

There's that video somewhere that makes the Sun and Proxima into peas. At that scale they are 125 miles apart as memory serves. Pretty darn amazing how huge space is and how distant stars are from each other.

This is saying 24 kilometers, have not done the simple math myself

http://creativeintentions.com.au/earthtosunpea.htm

It would be interesting to see how far apart all stars (or stars the sun's size and up) are on average from the nearest neighbor in our galaxy. The cutoff point of the galactic volume would be the hard part. Then there would be all sorts of types of "mean" distances according to definition, but whatever that would be overly precise math wankery.
 
From what I remember, Proxima Centauri is about 40,000 years away at Voyager speed. If the outer edge of the Oort Cloud is 30,000 Voyager years away then Oort Clouds must somehow overlap at least in terms of distance though not direction. Solar systems must therefore share space, which makes sense.

Makes things seem not so far away, though they certainly are.

There's that video somewhere that makes the Sun and Proxima into peas. At that scale they are 125 miles apart as memory serves. Pretty darn amazing how huge space is and how distant stars are from each other.

This is saying 24 kilometers, have not done the simple math myself

http://creativeintentions.com.au/earthtosunpea.htm

It would be interesting to see how far apart all stars (or stars the sun's size and up) are on average from the nearest neighbor in our galaxy. The cutoff point of the galactic volume would be the hard part. Then there would be all sorts of types of "mean" distances according to definition, but whatever that would be overly precise math wankery.

From the nearest star, or from the nearest star not part of the same multi-star system?

Most stars are binaries...
 
All galactic volume divided by all galactic stars

ball park volume from Phil Plait:

https://plus.google.com/+PhilipPlait/posts/HwSmDnjVyH8

8 trillion cubic light year = 8*10^12 (ly)^3

the amount of stars in the galaxy is much more roughly known:

low end 100 billion, high end 400 billion. Wow, what a range.

take a geometric mean midrange of 200 billion and that gives

~40 (ly)^3 volume per each star.

Putting into simple cubic structure (so much uncertainty elsewhere, no reason to do HCP or BCC) I get each star in a box about 3.4 light-years on a side.

So, our sun is in a roughly average density neighborhood of the galaxy?
 
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