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We're giving out security clearance to members of violent white supremacist groups now

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Now that this is out, it will be interesting to see what comes about.
 

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Well, at no time, on any clearance screening paperwork, have they asked if I was a white supremacist.

They've asked if I am, or have ever been a communist, or a socialist. Never asked about the KKK or alt-Right. The Navy and my current employer (one which brings me into contact with at least one branch of Northrop Gruman about four times a year), all hope to be able to say I support Equal Opportunity, but it hasn't been a deal breaker for most.

And that's over the last 38 years, so pretty independent of Trump.

The one Klansman I ever knew was in the Navy, had a SECRET clearance, but when the Navy discovered his membership... Well, they didn't kick him out, but they did permanently remove his recommendations for advancement and retention. His career ended, but he wasn't kicked out until the end of his contract.

I suspect that even if his association is known, NG isn't going to do anything to him. not for that.
But if he does give them the slightest excuse, either from being brought up on charges for criminal activity, OR for being late to work, or walking out of the building with a company pen in his pocket, they'll jettison his ass.
 

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I guess it comes down to, in the view of deciders, whether or not being a member of is an action or just expression of belief. Is he a member who attended an event at the request of the group or did he just show up to see what was going to happen?

As Keith&Co points out membership questions are left up to those applying rather than inquired by the evaluators. I'm pretty sure I failed to review whether those groups that I was member to or interested in were on any subservies lists during my clearance processes all of which I received right up to compartment level (electronic warfare).

Actions of evaluators seem to be consistent with passive review rather than assertive review. My late son was refused top secret clearance because he failed to name or acknowledge persons from the ME during lie detector tests who were muslim friends that later interviews of named friends revealed he knew. It's let the gee catchhisowndamnself. He went against my advice to admit what was was. Admitting one knows and associates with ME muslims is not cause to reject on it's face.
 
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