What will Republicans say about Trump's Failed Presidency

[whichphilosophy]

How would mass protests by people who simply hate the fact that the Democrats lost be relevant to anything else.

Ask the fat orange asshole who feels the need to lie about crowd sizes. Nobody gave a fuck about it until he got all butthurt and started lying about it instead of doing his job.

So you agree it's sour grapes about the Democrats losing the democratic vote. Also the issues many seem to be protesting have been existing for a considerable amount of time.

The evidence that he he won't do his job or will do his job is as flimsy as the CIA claims the Russians lost the Democrats the elections.

 

[Elixir]

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So you agree it's sour grapes \

Of course. Why else would the first utterance from Trump's spokesman be an outright lie about crowd sizes? Sour grapes is an understatement - they're driven insane by the fact they couldn't atract a third of the number of people who showed up to protest his policies.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

So they are little different from the Democrats. Shouldn't they be working together.

It was the Democrats who gave us Social Security.

It was the Republicans (Reagan) that taxed Social Security benefits. Double taxation.

And people still sing the praises of that deluded idiot Reagan.

Half of social security benefits should be taxable as half of the money paid in was taxed.

It was the increase from 50% to 85% that was double taxation.

 

[untermensche]

It was the Democrats who gave us Social Security.

It was the Republicans (Reagan) that taxed Social Security benefits. Double taxation.

And people still sing the praises of that deluded idiot Reagan.

Half of social security benefits should be taxable as half of the money paid in was taxed.

It was the increase from 50% to 85% that was double taxation.

Why should the pennies the elderly try to survive on be taxed?

Why this insane idea?

 

[bilby]

Half of social security benefits should be taxable as half of the money paid in was taxed.

It was the increase from 50% to 85% that was double taxation.

Why should the pennies the elderly try to survive on be taxed?

Why this insane idea?

Because poor pensioners can't afford lobbyists.

Rich people can't be taxed, because they are wealthy enough to pay congressmen to vote them tax cuts.

And the money's got to come from somewhere.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

And yes, I say he will fail. And will fail massively. At some point it will be obvious to all. But at that point, what will the Republicans and other neocons say? Will they deny the economic data or violence in front of them? Will they just claim they never were really Trump supporters? Claim that Trump really was never one of them all along. Find a way to blame Democrats? (the 2008 financial crisis was all Dems fault even though the Repubs controlled Congress, the White House and the Courts.

So what do you think will be their bullshit excuses for a Trump presidency?

SLD

This question is actually absurdly painfully easy to answer, to the point where I feel embarrassment on your behalf that you even need to ask it. Republican Party leadership never wanted Trump and never supported Trump, and only grudgingly accepted him when he agreed to put in his cabinet Republicans more acceptable to the party. They even campaigned against him in the primary, much the way the Democratic Party campaigned against Bernie. Unlike the Democrats, the Republicans weren't able to squash the person standing in the way of the candidate they wanted.

So if there comes a problem that can be shown to be the result of a Trump decision, the leadership can say "see, we told you he wasn't one of us."

That's been apparent since long before the convention.

I know that most people who follow US politics have distressingly short memories, but this is a pretty sad and extreme example of that problem.

Now on the other hand, since during the Trump administration, and this will be true no matter what Trump does, there will be severe economic turmoil 25 years in the making, turmoil that briefly broke out in 2001 and 2008 but was pushed back down to build up even more pressure each time, the question is whether Trump will get the blame for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or if he will successfully point out that the problem started before he got into office.

 

[Elixir]

Why should the pennies the elderly try to survive on be taxed?

Why this insane idea?

Because poor pensioners can't afford lobbyists.

Rich people can't be taxed, because they are wealthy enough to pay congressmen to vote them tax cuts.

And the money's got to come from somewhere.

Brilliantly stated. Almost simple enough for a Trump voter to understand. It could be the start of a platform statement...

 

[whichphilosophy]

It was the Democrats who gave us Social Security.

It was the Republicans (Reagan) that taxed Social Security benefits. Double taxation.

And people still sing the praises of that deluded idiot Reagan.

Half of social security benefits should be taxable as half of the money paid in was taxed.

It was the increase from 50% to 85% that was double taxation.

So they should work together on this.

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So you agree it's sour grapes \

Of course. Why else would the first utterance from Trump's spokesman be an outright lie about crowd sizes? Sour grapes is an understatement - they're driven insane by the fact they couldn't atract a third of the number of people who showed up to protest his policies.

This is not the context of the quote.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Half of social security benefits should be taxable as half of the money paid in was taxed.

It was the increase from 50% to 85% that was double taxation.

Why should the pennies the elderly try to survive on be taxed?

Why this insane idea?

To a very large degree the tax code is designed that a dollar is taxed exactly once when it changes hands.

Half of the money that goes into social security has already been taxed, half has not. Thus that other half should be taxed when it comes back out.

If social security is all that a retiree has to live on they'll be in the 0% bracket anyway, it doesn't matter if it's taxed.

 

[Elixir]

So they should work together on this.

This is not the context of the quote.

Should be.

 

[J842P]

And yes, I say he will fail. And will fail massively. At some point it will be obvious to all. But at that point, what will the Republicans and other neocons say? Will they deny the economic data or violence in front of them? Will they just claim they never were really Trump supporters? Claim that Trump really was never one of them all along. Find a way to blame Democrats? (the 2008 financial crisis was all Dems fault even though the Repubs controlled Congress, the White House and the Courts.

So what do you think will be their bullshit excuses for a Trump presidency?

SLD

You realize the Neocons were vehemently against Trump and many openly supported Clinyon?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

And yes, I say he will fail. And will fail massively. At some point it will be obvious to all. But at that point, what will the Republicans and other neocons say? Will they deny the economic data or violence in front of them? Will they just claim they never were really Trump supporters? Claim that Trump really was never one of them all along. Find a way to blame Democrats? (the 2008 financial crisis was all Dems fault even though the Repubs controlled Congress, the White House and the Courts.

So what do you think will be their bullshit excuses for a Trump presidency?

SLD

You realize the Neocons were vehemently against Trump and many openly supported Clinyon?

So was McCain and Rubio and plenty in Congress, yet their concerns seemed to have evaporated.

 

[J842P]

You realize the Neocons were vehemently against Trump and many openly supported Clinton?

So was McCain and Rubio and plenty in Congress, yet their concerns seemed to have evaporated.

Well, again, I'm talking about Neocons. They will say "I told you so." Take Bill Kristol, for example. He still maintains his opposition. I think Kristol is an evil man, but at least he sticks to his principles.

Rubio? Rubio is a dangerous fool. And McCain? While I've always disagreed with McCain, I used to think he was more or less a principled man. It seems he cares most about reelection.