What will the upcoming Putin/Trump new world order look like?

[Keith&Co.]

let me tell you what is threat to west and what is not.

Wow.
NO one's believed your delusional, unsupported assertions before, but I'm sure that THIS time it'll be believable and rational, won't it?

 

[Jarhyn]

Here's something I've wondered about this breed of Muslims, Syed. What does it matter to Muslims how many other people are Muslims? Why do you need to take over anything? Why can't people just get to pick whatever religion they want? Why this need to force people? If Islam and Allah is so great then wouldn't everybody sooner or later figure out it's greatness on their own? Why does God need help from humans?

we dont forced

No, your own book of bronze age bullshit just says to execute anyone who has second thoughts, and to enslave anyone who never agrees in the first place. That isn't forcing people at all. Oh.. wait. That's exactly forcing people.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

1) I have no cult.

2) If you truly anger the major powers of the world Islam will die. 30 minutes after His Flatulence decided the threat was intolerable there would be no more Middle East. Putin would be more likely to make that decision and the result would be faster, also.

You think of us as a paper tiger but that's because we have never faced a problem we considered truly intolerable.

you couldn't kill all jews so how can you kill all muslims?
be realistic islam is taking over europe not other way around

You're not addressing the point.

And while someone pushing the button wouldn't kill all the Muslims the removal of the governments backing the radicals would go a long way towards ending the problem.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

People who are Christian isn't the same thing as Christians.

The Muslims have been fighting to impose Islam for as long as they have existed. The last time we were fighting to impose Christianity was the Crusades.

You have a funny version of human history....

What is your example of a more recent time?

One would think most anyone would know about the Spanish Inquisition, which went on for centuries after the crusades…

And then there is the Portuguese Goa Inquisition.

1) These occurred in areas that were already Christian.

2) The Inquisitions were mostly a way of stealing the money of those who had wealth well beyond their power. Supposed heresy was far more a tool than an objective.

In modern times, there is the Central African Republic where Anti-balaka Christian groups have terrorized Muslims.

And there weren't Muslim groups terrorizing Christians first?

Though much more modest in scale, and has petered out, there is Nagaland:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Nagaland

Its manifesto is based on the principle of Socialism for economic development and a Baptist Christian religious outlook ‘Nagaland for Christ’.[67] In some of their documents the NSCN has called for recognizing only Christianity in Nagalim.[68] They believe in Christian theocracy

Look more carefully--that's a separatist movement, they're not trying to impose Christianity.

Never mind that the biggest backers of the Shrub’s invasion/occupation of Iraq were Evangelicals. They most probably didn’t think they were converting anyone, but killing Muslims was certainly seen in a positive light by these groups. I see it in my own in-law family, where they aren’t far from saying ‘the only good Muslim is a dead one’. Muslim extremist terrorism in the US and the EU isn’t about imposing Islam on the west either….as long as we are comparing apples to farts…

As you say, it wasn't about imposing Christianity--you're proving my position!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

human are unpredictable creature, maybe good maybe bad , but islam is human destiny

Then extinction is human destiny. The Muslims at least at present do not have the ability to actually run the world. A resource collapse would come in short order and it would be brutal enough I would not expect a viable population to be left.

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Yeah right. You just condone violence if your demands are not met.

let me tell you what is threat to west and what is not.

sharia law is NOT threat to the west

radical muslims is NOT threat to the west

muslim brotherhood is NOT threat to the west

isis is NOT threat to the west

alqaeda is NOT threat to the west

hamas is NOT threat to the west

iran is NOT threat to the west

jihad is NOT threat to the west

islam is the REAL threat to the west

islam is a POWERFUL religion and christianity is a STUPID religion

so islam will take over the christianity and the west

THIS IS NOT A TAQIYYA

You say it's not a threat and then you say it will take over.

That takeover will not be peaceful. Therefore it is a threat.

 

[Jayjay]

Yeah right. You just condone violence if your demands are not met.

let me tell you what is threat to west and what is not.

sharia law is NOT threat to the west

radical muslims is NOT threat to the west

muslim brotherhood is NOT threat to the west

isis is NOT threat to the west

alqaeda is NOT threat to the west

hamas is NOT threat to the west

iran is NOT threat to the west

jihad is NOT threat to the west

islam is the REAL threat to the west

islam is a POWERFUL religion and christianity is a STUPID religion

so islam will take over the christianity and the west

THIS IS NOT A TAQIYYA

Funny how "taqqiya", i.e. lying through your teeth, is such an integral part of your religion that you have to explicitly say that you are not lying. Which of course itself could be a lie so it is a meaningless proclamation. "This time I'm not lying, honest!"

None of the things mentioned, including Islam, are existential threats to the west. They are nuisances at best. As for which is dumber, Christianity or Islam, I leave that between those who want to argue it. They are both pretty dumb. But what will happen is that Islam in the west is going to be neutered just as Christianity was. Only difference is that thanks to internet it will happen a lot faster.

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Then extinction is human destiny. The Muslims at least at present do not have the ability to actually run the world. A resource collapse would come in short order and it would be brutal enough I would not expect a viable population to be left.

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let me tell you what is threat to west and what is not.

sharia law is NOT threat to the west

radical muslims is NOT threat to the west

muslim brotherhood is NOT threat to the west

isis is NOT threat to the west

alqaeda is NOT threat to the west

hamas is NOT threat to the west

iran is NOT threat to the west

jihad is NOT threat to the west

islam is the REAL threat to the west

islam is a POWERFUL religion and christianity is a STUPID religion

so islam will take over the christianity and the west

THIS IS NOT A TAQIYYA

You say it's not a threat and then you say it will take over.

That takeover will not be peaceful. Therefore it is a threat.

Read again. He is saying that it is a threat.

 

[barbos]

I thought I got to a wrong thread, apparently not.

 

[DrZoidberg]

we dont forced

But why talk about it at all? Why not just be a Muslim without making a fuss about it? Why does anybody but the Muslims themselves know what they believe?

When I asked my father if he believed in God he just told me to mind my own business. He said that this is something we all just need to figure out for ourselves.

If God is truly omnipotent isn't the fact that Muslims talk about it at all an admission that they don't believe God is particularly powerful at all? Why not leave it to God to convert people? Why does Allah need help from humans?