Where did God get the feminine nature to put into women?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Where did God get the feminine nature to put into women?

The world could use a bit of femininity right now.

Helpmeet ---a helpful companion or partner, especially one's husband or wife.

A female helpmeet’s nature is quite different from a mans.

A man is to die for her. Not her for him.

In the beginning there was only God and all that is has emanated from him. This means that the female nature is incorporated into God’s image.

No man can be in God’s image, physically, because we are not androgenous the way Yahweh was. Men cannot think like women either.

Men today, like at no other dismal time in history, are sorely in need of a calming feminine helpmeet type, --- to end our self destruction, --- both ecologically and politically.

There is a female Jesus and or Goddess out there somewhere.

Nice if she would step up.

Regards
DL

 

[Politesse]

We are all born female, at least in terms of morphology. At a certain point in our development, a release of testosterone may or may not occur, in which case we likely present as biologically male. All human beings have the potential to present the traits of either biological sex, or some intermediate condition.

I disagree with your assumption that god must be considered male, for the record; that sounds like absurd anthropocentrism at odds with both the grander metaphysical claims of Christianity, and with common sense.

The "female Jesus" is the person called Sophia, and I'm pretty surprised that even a nominal Gnostic would somehow not know this; she has been adored in Gnostic ritual for two millennia.

From the early Gnostic Christian work known as Thunder, the Perfect Mind:


For I [Sophia] am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.
For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

We are all born female, at least in terms of morphology. At a certain point in our development, a release of testosterone may or may not occur, in which case we likely present as biologically male. All human beings have the potential to present the traits of either biological sex, or some intermediate condition.

I disagree with your assumption that god must be considered male, for the record; that sounds like absurd anthropocentrism at odds with both the grander metaphysical claims of Christianity, and with common sense.

The "female Jesus" is the person called Sophia, and I'm pretty surprised that even a nominal Gnostic would somehow not know this; she has been adored in Gnostic ritual for two millennia.

From the early Gnostic Christian work known as Thunder, the Perfect Mind:


For I [Sophia] am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.
For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.

Thanks for this.

You indicate that we adore Sophia.

We do not adore or idol worship anything. especially when Sophia only represents wisdom and knowledge to us.

We are perpetual seekers while you think our ideology fixed and adored.

That is not the case at all.

Do you adore your ideology, and what makes you think I would idol worship mine?

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Men today, like at no other dismal time in history, are sorely in need of a calming feminine helpmeet type, --- to end our self destruction, --- both ecologically and politically.

We've been pretty psychotic for a while. First half of 20th Century was particularly but, the killing has been a theme for millennia.

There is a female Jesus and or Goddess out there somewhere.

That is a bit presumptuous.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Men today, like at no other dismal time in history, are sorely in need of a calming feminine helpmeet type, --- to end our self destruction, --- both ecologically and politically.

We've been pretty psychotic for a while. First half of 20th Century was particularly but, the killing has been a theme for millennia.

There is a female Jesus and or Goddess out there somewhere.

That is a bit presumptuous.

Perhaps, but to this Christian and her organization, perhaps not.



The right wing are wrong about many things but not in this one.

Where did the female nature come from if not God and where is our Goddess? ----- is what all Christians should be asking themselves.

The bible says that Jesus would be elected.

I think the world is in a real need of a she Jesus.

A Russian ecologist one would be timely.

Regards
DL

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Men today, like at no other dismal time in history, are sorely in need of a calming feminine helpmeet type, --- to end our self destruction, --- both ecologically and politically.

We've been pretty psychotic for a while. First half of 20th Century was particularly but, the killing has been a theme for millennia.

There is a female Jesus and or Goddess out there somewhere.

That is a bit presumptuous.

Perhaps, but to this Christian and her organization, perhaps not.



The right wing are wrong about many things but not in this one.

Where did the female nature come from if not God...

Why would it not come from God? God creates man and woman at the same time in the First Story of Creation. God doesn't impart anything spirituality wise to them in the story, other than to boink and multiple.

And then we get uptight religious people telling us boinking the wrong people or at the wrong time is wrong... when the fucking Bible opens up by telling us the first thing God tells people is to boink each other.

...and where is our Goddess? ----- is what all Christians should be asking themselves.

They are too busy advocating for God about a nonsensical and unsubstantiated position of non-boinking to be asking about a bonus god.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

We've been pretty psychotic for a while. First half of 20th Century was particularly but, the killing has been a theme for millennia.

Think longer term and things are really good.

It is the persistent religious beliefs that are slowing our collective progress.

They foolishly resist the shrinking pains of Laïcité and secular space, while demanding their own space.

The wise and moral ignore the religious immoral double standard.

That view is picking up speed along with modernization.

Demographically speaking, the stats are great.

Putin is to global change, what Trump was to the U.S.

A God from heaven for the left, as he discredits the right.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Why would it not come from God?

Nice to see you here and now.

Let me speak to you by point.

I am saying it did. From an androgynous God/Jesus, who split off his feminine nature.

Where did it go and come from initially if not from Yahweh?

God creates man and woman at the same time in the First Story of Creation. God doesn't impart anything spirituality wise to them in the story, other than to boink and multiple.

Yes, but when to multiply in early Christianity is what kept the baby sacrifices to a minimum, thanks to the well respected Temple prostitutes.

They have become as Gods in the knowing of good and evil, to me, is spiritual judgement.

And then we get uptight religious people telling us boinking the wrong people or at the wrong time is wrong... when the fucking Bible opens up by telling us the first thing God tells people is to boink each other.

Does secular law not do the same?

Yes it does, so we can only argue degree here.

I am pro choice, if that helps us skip this part.

Gnostic Christians are not like the Christians that used inquisitions on us.

To a Christian, I am worse than an atheist, from a moral point of vies.

Regards
DL

 

[steve_bank]

Hugh Hefner?

 

[Politesse]

We are all born female, at least in terms of morphology. At a certain point in our development, a release of testosterone may or may not occur, in which case we likely present as biologically male. All human beings have the potential to present the traits of either biological sex, or some intermediate condition.

I disagree with your assumption that god must be considered male, for the record; that sounds like absurd anthropocentrism at odds with both the grander metaphysical claims of Christianity, and with common sense.

The "female Jesus" is the person called Sophia, and I'm pretty surprised that even a nominal Gnostic would somehow not know this; she has been adored in Gnostic ritual for two millennia.

From the early Gnostic Christian work known as Thunder, the Perfect Mind:


For I [Sophia] am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.
For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.

Thanks for this.

You indicate that we adore Sophia.

We do not adore or idol worship anything. especially when Sophia only represents wisdom and knowledge to us.

We are perpetual seekers while you think our ideology fixed and adored.

That is not the case at all.

Do you adore your ideology, and what makes you think I would idol worship mine?

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

I didn't just indicate this, I shared a source supporting my point.

Who is "we", and why do "they" think that ideology has to be "fixed" in order to honor the feminine? Why would it be any more ideologuic to honor a goddess than a god?

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

We are all born female, at least in terms of morphology. At a certain point in our development, a release of testosterone may or may not occur, in which case we likely present as biologically male. All human beings have the potential to present the traits of either biological sex, or some intermediate condition.

I disagree with your assumption that god must be considered male, for the record; that sounds like absurd anthropocentrism at odds with both the grander metaphysical claims of Christianity, and with common sense.

The "female Jesus" is the person called Sophia, and I'm pretty surprised that even a nominal Gnostic would somehow not know this; she has been adored in Gnostic ritual for two millennia.

From the early Gnostic Christian work known as Thunder, the Perfect Mind:


For I [Sophia] am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.
For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.

Thanks for this.

You indicate that we adore Sophia.

We do not adore or idol worship anything. especially when Sophia only represents wisdom and knowledge to us.

We are perpetual seekers while you think our ideology fixed and adored.

That is not the case at all.

Do you adore your ideology, and what makes you think I would idol worship mine?

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

I didn't just indicate this, I shared a source supporting my point.

Who is "we", and why do "they" think that ideology has to be "fixed" in order to honor the feminine? Why would it be any more ideologuic to honor a goddess than a god?

It is more fitting, as women, through Eve, are the mothers of the world.

Unity is required and women unify better than men.

Estrogen, Yah. Testosterone, boo.

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

We are all born female, at least in terms of morphology. At a certain point in our development, a release of testosterone may or may not occur, in which case we likely present as biologically male. All human beings have the potential to present the traits of either biological sex, or some intermediate condition.

I disagree with your assumption that god must be considered male, for the record; that sounds like absurd anthropocentrism at odds with both the grander metaphysical claims of Christianity, and with common sense.

The "female Jesus" is the person called Sophia, and I'm pretty surprised that even a nominal Gnostic would somehow not know this; she has been adored in Gnostic ritual for two millennia.

From the early Gnostic Christian work known as Thunder, the Perfect Mind:


For I [Sophia] am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.
For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.

Thanks for this.

You indicate that we adore Sophia.

We do not adore or idol worship anything. especially when Sophia only represents wisdom and knowledge to us.

We are perpetual seekers while you think our ideology fixed and adored.

That is not the case at all.

Do you adore your ideology, and what makes you think I would idol worship mine?

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

I didn't just indicate this, I shared a source supporting my point.

Who is "we", and why do "they" think that ideology has to be "fixed" in order to honor the feminine? Why would it be any more ideologuic to honor a goddess than a god?

It is more fitting, as women, through Eve, are the mothers of the world.

Unity is required and women unify better than men.

Unity isn't required. A deep urge that needs to be satisfied (like most other mammals) is what is required.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

We are all born female, at least in terms of morphology. At a certain point in our development, a release of testosterone may or may not occur, in which case we likely present as biologically male. All human beings have the potential to present the traits of either biological sex, or some intermediate condition.

I disagree with your assumption that god must be considered male, for the record; that sounds like absurd anthropocentrism at odds with both the grander metaphysical claims of Christianity, and with common sense.

The "female Jesus" is the person called Sophia, and I'm pretty surprised that even a nominal Gnostic would somehow not know this; she has been adored in Gnostic ritual for two millennia.

From the early Gnostic Christian work known as Thunder, the Perfect Mind:


For I [Sophia] am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.
For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored and the scorned,
I am the harlot and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am the m[oth]er and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.

I am the barren one and the one with many children.
I am she whose marriage is multiple, and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not give birth.
I am the comforting of my labor pains.

Thanks for this.

You indicate that we adore Sophia.

We do not adore or idol worship anything. especially when Sophia only represents wisdom and knowledge to us.

We are perpetual seekers while you think our ideology fixed and adored.

That is not the case at all.

Do you adore your ideology, and what makes you think I would idol worship mine?

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

I didn't just indicate this, I shared a source supporting my point.

Who is "we", and why do "they" think that ideology has to be "fixed" in order to honor the feminine? Why would it be any more ideologuic to honor a goddess than a god?

It is more fitting, as women, through Eve, are the mothers of the world.

Unity is required and women unify better than men.

Unity isn't required. A deep urge that needs to be satisfied (like most other mammals) is what is required.

??

One and the same to me, given that you did not qualify that urge you are talking about.

I guess I am supposed to guess.

Do you not recognize your own tribal needs and instincts, that has you seek fellowship?

Regards
DL

 

[steve_bank]

Adam was lonely so god gave him sex and made it an 'urge'.
God mase humans so we need to eat, an 'urge'.

In modern tines we call it genetic programming. Basic survival instincts. Eat and procreate. Some Christians insist sex for anyting but procretion is wrong. That is not the way 'god made us'.

Some crtATues mate only for a limited time each year. Rabbits and humans are in heat 24/7 360 days a year.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Adam was lonely so god gave him sex and made it an 'urge'.
God mase humans so we need to eat, an 'urge'.

In modern tines we call it genetic programming. Basic survival instincts. Eat and procreate. Some Christians insist sex for anyting but procretion is wrong. That is not the way 'god made us'.

Some crtATues mate only for a limited time each year. Rabbits and humans are in heat 24/7 360 days a year.

You are calling nature God.

Progress.

Regards
DL

 

[steve_bank]

Adam was lonely so god gave him sex and made it an 'urge'.
God mase humans so we need to eat, an 'urge'.

In modern tines we call it genetic programming. Basic survival instincts. Eat and procreate. Some Christians insist sex for anyting but procretion is wrong. That is not the way 'god made us'.

Some crtATues mate only for a limited time each year. Rabbits and humans are in heat 24/7 360 days a year.

You are calling nature God.

Progress.

Regards
DL

Nope, sarcasm directed at the belief in a god be it Yahweh, The Great Spirit, A higher Power, or Nature.

Saying nature is god or using 'mother nature' is mataphor, a maner of speaking to illustrae a point. 'It is not wise to fool with motker nature' is an and maxim.

I have no prejudice or bias, on the forum I impune all gods and beliefs equally. Given that nature or in the case of creationists made us sexually active 24/7 and then the idea is we are supposed to supress it is the basis of or culturall sexual problems like rape and sex abuse.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Adam was lonely so god gave him sex and made it an 'urge'.
God mase humans so we need to eat, an 'urge'.

In modern tines we call it genetic programming. Basic survival instincts. Eat and procreate. Some Christians insist sex for anyting but procretion is wrong. That is not the way 'god made us'.

Some crtATues mate only for a limited time each year. Rabbits and humans are in heat 24/7 360 days a year.

You are calling nature God.

Progress.

Regards
DL

Nope, sarcasm directed at the belief in a god be it Yahweh, The Great Spirit, A higher Power, or Nature.

Saying nature is god or using 'mother nature' is mataphor, a maner of speaking to illustrae a point. 'It is not wise to fool with motker nature' is an and maxim.

I have no prejudice or bias, on the forum I impune all gods and beliefs equally. Given that nature or in the case of creationists made us sexually active 24/7 and then the idea is we are supposed to supress it is the basis of or culturall sexual problems like rape and sex abuse.

I have a definite bias for nature, as it created me and sustains me.

Who could ask for a better God?

Regards
DL

 

[steve_bank]

Mr Gnostic Christian Bishop,

So that you fully understand where I am coming from.

To me despite your claims to the contrary to me you are just a regular run of the mill Christian. Your clams and proselytize have aboslutely no i,pact on me. No more so than any other Christian. As I would say to any beliefs, 'whatever floats your boat'. If you need the crutch of something to worship, that is your trip.

You can go the 'full Monty, wear robes and carry a staff. Give yourself a title.

If you need to worship something worship something with some meaning, like a penis or vagina fertility god. Or a volcano, way more cool than a dead Jewish prophet from 2000 years ago.

 

[lostone]

Nature is red in tooth and claw, as Darwin is said to have said. If nature is God, it is not a kind one. Turning it into a God seems like anthropocentrism to me. I view nature as blind and inanimate forces without will or purpose, just the way things are.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Mr Gnostic Christian Bishop,

So that you fully understand where I am coming from.

To me despite your claims to the contrary to me you are just a regular run of the mill Christian. Your clams and proselytize have aboslutely no i,pact on me. No more so than any other Christian. As I would say to any beliefs, 'whatever floats your boat'. If you need the crutch of something to worship, that is your trip.

You can go the 'full Monty, wear robes and carry a staff. Give yourself a title.

If you need to worship something worship something with some meaning, like a penis or vagina fertility god. Or a volcano, way more cool than a dead Jewish prophet from 2000 years ago.

Shove your personal B.S. back where you found it.

I have an anal orifice and do not need you behind me.

Go away.

Regards
DL