Who Agrees Fourth Wave Feminism is Toxic Femininity And Should Be Abolished?

[Keith&Co.]

Yes, it's wrong for men to look at women and think they are attractive

Nope. That is not what tgat one snippet of the commercial was saying.
It makes more sense in context, but then you can't whine about how feminism makes you fear rape charges.

but it's perfectly acceptable for women to check out men and go "check out the body on that guy!"

Stiiiiiiill not the point they were making.

Hypocrisy.

Nope, but it is no surprise thgatbbyou desperately need it to be.

I've seen many women stare at many men whispering to each other about him the same way men do about women.

I am sure you have. And taken it personally?
But the dichotomy you are bitching about remains entirely in your head.

They need to stop being so hypocritical.

Yeah, that's not the problem.

 

[Keith&Co.]

How would one go about abolishing "fourth wave feminism"?

It's a ridiculous premise from the start and just an invitation to a mass whinefest, predicated on the idea that one's personal problems are all caused by someone else's insensitivity.

so, pretty much an incel talking point.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

You know, we are four pages into this snowflake bullshit, and I have yet to see a definition on what "fourth wave feminism" is or how it differs from third or second wave feminism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-wave_feminism

...
Whereas earlier feminists fought for and earned women greater liberation, individualism, and social mobility, the fourth wave furthers the agenda by calling for justice against assault and harassment, for equal pay for equal work, and for bodily autonomy.^[4] Fourth-wave feminists often use print, news, and social media to collaborate and mobilize, speak against abusers of power, and provide equal opportunities for girls and women.
...

Here ya go! I for one welcome our new Fourth Wave feminist overlords.

 

[Toni]

Yes, I've been a huge slut in my life, largely in the attempt to seek a relationship, a connection with another human being. Those experiences are exactly how and why I know that, categorically, the things I can do to myself are categorically more fun.

That question also has the spin on it that implies, well, some awful stupidity to it. You'd have to "lose something" for the function of it to even be possible, so no shit people would be afraid of your bullshit. As anyone in a marriage can tell you, though, it's generally worth it.

It is deeply idiotic to think masturbation is better than sex and that incels are deluded about sex.

"Afraid of my bullshit", what are you talking about?

Incels are deluded about sex. They think it is their right to have sex with women of their choice, on demand. That's delusional and worse for anybody, period.

 

[Half-Life]

You don't understand women to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many women have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot boys on the street? Maybe if infantile men stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many right wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?

What if I did this instead?

"You don't understand men to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many men have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot girls on the street? Maybe if infantile women stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many left wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?"

 

[Bronzeage]

How would one go about abolishing "fourth wave feminism"?

It's a ridiculous premise from the start and just an invitation to a mass whinefest, predicated on the idea that one's personal problems are all caused by someone else's insensitivity.

so, pretty much an incel talking point.

This is especially significant when one realizes all they do is talk.

 

[Half-Life]

You know, we are four pages into this snowflake bullshit, and I have yet to see a definition on what "fourth wave feminism" is or how it differs from third or second wave feminism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-wave_feminism

...
Whereas earlier feminists fought for and earned women greater liberation, individualism, and social mobility, the fourth wave furthers the agenda by calling for justice against assault and harassment, for equal pay for equal work, and for bodily autonomy.^[4] Fourth-wave feminists often use print, news, and social media to collaborate and mobilize, speak against abusers of power, and provide equal opportunities for girls and women.
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Here ya go! I for one welcome our new Fourth Wave feminist overlords.

They work so hard inventing imaginary problems that they have no energy left to think of imaginary solutions to the imaginary problems.

 

[Bronzeage]

You don't understand women to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many women have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot boys on the street? Maybe if infantile men stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many right wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?

What if I did this instead?

"You don't understand men to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many men have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot girls on the street? Maybe if infantile women stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many left wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?"

Since left wingers have no trouble attracting women, have you ever considered that it's your right wing political views which are keeping you celibate?

 

[Toni]

You don't understand women to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many women have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot boys on the street? Maybe if infantile men stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many right wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?

What if I did this instead?

"You don't understand men to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many men have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot girls on the street? Maybe if infantile women stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many left wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?"

Careful now. That sounds dangerously like empathy for women. I know that can't be your intention so I thought I'd warn you. Don't want you to get kicked out of the club.

 

[Half-Life]

How would one go about abolishing "fourth wave feminism"?

It's a ridiculous premise from the start and just an invitation to a mass whinefest, predicated on the idea that one's personal problems are all caused by someone else's insensitivity.

so, pretty much an incel talking point.

This is especially significant when one realizes all they do is talk.

There's also a double standard with the fat men who are proud of their bodies in the same way fat women are proud of their bodies. They have been told by women to lose weight, yet men can't tell a fat girl to lose weight or else it's "body shaming." Fat men are "gross pigs" but fat women are "inspirational."

Or the same girls who tell you not to demonize them for being fat will demonize men for being short and say things like, "I want a tall man! No shorties!" So it's OK for them to discriminate against men based on their height (in which he has no control over) but men can't be critical of a woman's appearance? Short people get very offended by this. It's insulting.

So, I can certainly empathize with how frustrated they feel when everything seems stacked against them.

 

[Half-Life]

You don't understand women to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many women have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot boys on the street? Maybe if infantile men stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many right wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?

What if I did this instead?

"You don't understand men to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many men have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot girls on the street? Maybe if infantile women stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many left wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?"

Since left wingers have no trouble attracting women, have you ever considered that it's your right wing political views which are keeping you celibate?

I don't believe in sex outside of marriage. So, I do not do it. This does not make me an incel. I am voluntarily celibate. I have had sex in my wild younger days but not anymore unless I get married.

And besides, the stereotype is that left-wingers live in their parents basement because they got useless college degrees in liberals arts of gender studies and are all anti-capitalist and hate working for millionaires and billionaires. They only want their money if they physically give it to them. They don't want to actually work for any of it.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

You don't understand women to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many women have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot boys on the street? Maybe if infantile men stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many right wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?

What if I did this instead?

"You don't understand men to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many men have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot girls on the street? Maybe if infantile women stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many left wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?"

If you did that, we would call you a silly bugger.
Perhaps some of the women on this forum could tell you why they object to being groped and propositioned daily by leering male idiots. #Metoo wasn't a wake up call for you?

 

[Bronzeage]

Since left wingers have no trouble attracting women, have you ever considered that it's your right wing political views which are keeping you celibate?

I don't believe in sex outside of marriage. So, I do not do it. This does not make me an incel. I am voluntarily celibate. I have had sex in my wild younger days but not anymore unless I get married.

And besides, the stereotype is that left-wingers live in their parents basement because they got useless college degrees in liberals arts of gender studies and are all anti-capitalist and hate working for millionaires and billionaires. They only want their money if they physically give it to them. They don't want to actually work for any of it.

Pro tip: Relying on stereotypes is a poor rhetorical device.

 

[Arctish]

You don't understand women to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many women have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot boys on the street? Maybe if infantile men stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many right wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?

What if I did this instead?

"You don't understand men to not want a stead stream of sexual propositions, come-ons and sexual comments all day long as they go about their daily business. Are you really incapable of understanding the difference and why so many men have for years complained about the rudeness they get from idiot girls on the street? Maybe if infantile women stop being so gross and uncivil. Why is it so many left wingers seem incapable of getting a clue and strawmanning everything?"

Hey, Stud Muffins, wanna make bouncy-bouncy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMX-KxrhuKQ

 

[ruby sparks]

Hey, Stud Muffins, wanna make bouncy-bouncy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMX-KxrhuKQ

I read that the background to that sketch was that John Belushi refused to play the male part and that Dan Ackroyd was very reluctant and had to be cajoled.

 

[ruby sparks]

Are you saying feminism is a conspiracy theory? You have completely lost me here.

It's a disguise for them to get more power than men. They don't want equality, they want domination.

Straight out of the Twilight Zone.

 

[Bronzeage]

Are you saying feminism is a conspiracy theory? You have completely lost me here.

It's a disguise for them to get more power than men. They don't want equality, they want domination.

Straight out of the Twilight Zone.

Everybody knows you pay extra for domination. It's not like she's going to do it for the regular rates.

 

[Keith&Co.]

There's also a double standard with the fat men who are proud of their bodies in the same way fat women are proud of their bodies. They have been told by women to lose weight, yet men can't tell a fat girl to lose weight or else it's "body shaming." Fat men are "gross pigs" but fat women are "inspirational."

You know, that's only a double standard if the same people are making both statements. If SOME women body-shame men, but SOME women are against body shaming, it's not a double standard.
Do you have any actual evidence someone demands you respect her despite her body not meeting your standards AND she body shames men?
Actual evidence, not incels lying to each other?

Or the same girls who tell you not to demonize them for being fat will demonize men for being short and say things like, "I want a tall man! No shorties!"

The same girls, huh? Cite?

So, I can certainly empathize with how frustrated they feel when everything seems stacked against them.

They? incels? Incels look at society telling women that they have a right to say 'no' to unwanted sex and complain that life is stacked against incels. Because they'll never get the sex that is a God-given right if the women have any rights.
No one cares that life doesn't live up to their fantasies.

 

[Patooka]

The same girls, huh? Cite?

I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely admire your optimism.

 

[Keith&Co.]

The same girls, huh? Cite?

I'm not being sarcastic, I genuinely admire your optimism.

No optimism.

More of a ritual.
He's gonna spout bullshit, I'm gonna ask for a cite, he's going to throw out an anecdote, or a conservative stereotype, or maybe some bullshit link that doesn't actually support his claims, and eventually abandon the thread. As usual.