Why HRW is untrustworthy

[Loren Pechtel]

You think Israel is going to reveal their intel sources?!?!

This is equivalent to a Christian fundamentalist saying "God works in mysterious ways".

There is no evidence to support your claim of fact. Your belief in the infallibility and morality of the IDF is not evidence of fact. But then, why should you start producing evidence of fact now?

The point is you're asking for evidence they certainly wouldn't provide. However, we do have some indirect evidence:

https://www.camera.org/article/human-rights-watch-and-its-tunnel-deceptions/

Hamas won't allow the UN to see where one of the tunnels was.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You think Israel is going to reveal their intel sources?!?!

This is equivalent to a Christian fundamentalist saying "God works in mysterious ways".

There is no evidence to support your claim of fact. Your belief in the infallibility and morality of the IDF is not evidence of fact. But then, why should you start producing evidence of fact now?

The point is you're asking for evidence they certainly wouldn't provide. However, we do have some indirect evidence:

https://www.camera.org/article/human-rights-watch-and-its-tunnel-deceptions/

Hamas won't allow the UN to see where one of the tunnels was.

 

[KeepTalking]

You think Israel is going to reveal their intel sources?!?!

This is equivalent to a Christian fundamentalist saying "God works in mysterious ways".

There is no evidence to support your claim of fact. Your belief in the infallibility and morality of the IDF is not evidence of fact. But then, why should you start producing evidence of fact now?

The point is you're asking for evidence they certainly wouldn't provide. However, we do have some indirect evidence:

https://www.camera.org/article/human-rights-watch-and-its-tunnel-deceptions/

CAMERA is not an unbiased source:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_Accuracy_in_Middle_East_Reporting_in_America#Reception_to_CAMERA

Hamas won't allow the UN to see where one of the tunnels was.

Look over there!

Hamas wouldn't let them check this one place, therefor Israel cannot ever show any evidence that there are/were secret bunkers underground, even though LP can show us unsourced photos proving without a doubt that there were secret bunkers underground.

Yup, not buying it.

 

[laughing dog]

You think Israel is going to reveal their intel sources?!?!

This is equivalent to a Christian fundamentalist saying "God works in mysterious ways".

There is no evidence to support your claim of fact. Your belief in the infallibility and morality of the IDF is not evidence of fact. But then, why should you start producing evidence of fact now?

The point is you're asking for evidence they certainly wouldn't provide. However, we do have some indirect evidence:

Ni, the point is you have no evidence. All you have is your unquestioning belief in the IDF.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The point is you're asking for evidence they certainly wouldn't provide. However, we do have some indirect evidence:

Ni, the point is you have no evidence. All you have is your unquestioning belief in the IDF.

It's not unquestioning, it's that time has again and again shown they were basically right. Hamas claims Israel did bad things, the press runs with it, the evidence doesn't hold up and it gets forgotten about the next time Hamas presents fairy tales.

 

[laughing dog]

The point is you're asking for evidence they certainly wouldn't provide. However, we do have some indirect evidence:

Ni, the point is you have no evidence. All you have is your unquestioning belief in the IDF.

It's not unquestioning, it's that time has again and again shown they were basically right. Hamas claims Israel did bad things, the press runs with it, the evidence doesn't hold up and it gets forgotten about the next time Hamas presents fairy tales.

Spoken like a true unthinking believer.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's not unquestioning, it's that time has again and again shown they were basically right. Hamas claims Israel did bad things, the press runs with it, the evidence doesn't hold up and it gets forgotten about the next time Hamas presents fairy tales.

Spoken like a true unthinking believer.

For an example, try looking up the supposed Jenin Massacre.

 

[laughing dog]

It's not unquestioning, it's that time has again and again shown they were basically right. Hamas claims Israel did bad things, the press runs with it, the evidence doesn't hold up and it gets forgotten about the next time Hamas presents fairy tales.

Spoken like a true unthinking believer.

For an example, try looking up the supposed Jenin Massacre.

How is that relevant? The Jenin Massacre did not involve Hamas.

Are you arguing that your willingness to believe whatever the IDF says is based on
PA's and Hamas's record of misrepresentation and fabrication? I can understand why one would tend to accept the IDF's version of events over that of Hamas or the PA, but that does justify the lack of skepticism about the reports from the IDF.

 

[laughing dog]

For an example, try looking up the supposed Jenin Massacre.

How is that relevant? The Jenin Massacre did not involve Hamas.

Are you arguing that your willingness to believe whatever the IDF says is based on
PA's and Hamas's record of misrepresentation and fabrication? I can understand why one would tend to accept the IDF's version of events over that of Hamas or the PA, but that does justify the lack of skepticism about the reports from the IDF.

That should read "does NOT justify", sorry.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

For an example, try looking up the supposed Jenin Massacre.

How is that relevant? The Jenin Massacre did not involve Hamas.

Are you arguing that your willingness to believe whatever the IDF says is based on
PA's and Hamas's record of misrepresentation and fabrication? I can understand why one would tend to accept the IDF's version of events over that of Hamas or the PA, but that does justify the lack of skepticism about the reports from the IDF.

It was Hamas that claimed it happened.

 

[laughing dog]

For an example, try looking up the supposed Jenin Massacre.

How is that relevant? The Jenin Massacre did not involve Hamas.

Are you arguing that your willingness to believe whatever the IDF says is based on
PA's and Hamas's record of misrepresentation and fabrication? I can understand why one would tend to accept the IDF's version of events over that of Hamas or the PA, but that does justify the lack of skepticism about the reports from the IDF.

It was Hamas that claimed it happened.

Nope - Jenin is in the West Bank. I can find no source that indicates it was Hamas.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It was Hamas that claimed it happened.

Nope - Jenin is in the West Bank. I can find no source that indicates it was Hamas.

Ok, the Palestinians claimed it happened.