The Arabs said they would respond to the partition with war. They responded with war. It's just there was fighting before the partition so you can't really point to a start date.
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The Arabs said they would respond to the partition with war. They responded with war. It's just there was fighting before the partition so you can't really point to a start date.
Another deception. The partition was in 1948 when there was no issue of Gaza and the West Bank.
At this point most of those people you say don't get a vote are Jordanian citizens. They should get a vote there, not in Israel. (Oops, that's not a democracy.)
PyramidHead
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Can Palestinian Arabs in Gaza, the West Bank, or East Jerusalem TODAY vote in elections for who is in charge of Israel?
You seem to have omitted where I pointed out that most of them are Jordanian.
PyramidHead
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You seem to be doing something other than answering the question I asked. If most are Jordanian, that means not all of them are. The ones who aren't, the ones who live there permanently and are affected by what the government does, can they vote if they are Arabs?
ideologyhunter
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It's hard to see much hope for the area, and if one projects ahead a couple of decades, climate change is going to be especially brutal on the Mediterranean basin -- heat waves, water depletion, food shortages -- all of them pressure factors in armed conflict. There's nothing like depleted resources to bring out the worst in our species.
They're Jordanian, they should vote in Jordanian elections, not Israeli ones. Same as expats everywhere.
The fact that there aren't Jordanian elections is irrelevant.
PyramidHead
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So, what you're saying now is that ALL Palestinians live in Jordan, and none in Israel?
Read!
They are Jordanian citizens currently living in land that Jordan renounced ownership of. That makes them expats.
In the 2018 I was in China rather than the US on election day. Does that mean I should have voted in Chinese elections rather than US elections???
PyramidHead
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Try to stay with me: how many Palestinians are in Israel who are NOT Jordanian citizens, and of those, can all of them vote?
I do not know numbers.
Consider, also, that the West Bank is not Israeli territory (nor is it anyone else's--the only other claimant is invalid because they aren't a state ). Why should they automatically be allowed to vote in Israeli elections? Israeli expats living there can because they were already Israeli citizens.
PyramidHead
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People who are affected by a government that controls their lives should be able to vote for it. Your ignorance/cowardice to acknowledge that YES, THERE ARE ARABS IN ISRAEL AND NO, THEY CANNOT VOTE, is noted
1) You don't seem to comprehend the concept of expats.
2) The Arabs in Israel are citizens of Israel and can vote. The issue is the West Bank.
3) Note that the people in Gaza and the West Bank do have a place they vote: Palestinian Authority elections. So what if they haven't been held in a long time? Their government, their responsibility.