Woman Is Fired After Video Shows Her Blocking a Black Man From His Condo

[Loren Pechtel]

The problem with medical school is that you've already established a track record at a university and there's very few students at that level who don't deserve to be there - the argument that a black candidate needs to go to community college to have a better chance at not being overwhelmed is moot. The argument would have us believe that academic qualifications are the only things that should be considered for applicants - which is dubious at best at the undergrad level, and catastrophic when you have doctors who have to interact with real people. Bedside manner, ability to connect with your patients, and your general demeanor and personality play a large part in success in the field. On the matter of academic qualifications, those are and have pretty much been pegged at the redline for a while https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/05/college-admissions-gpa-sat-act/561167/

And those other factors somehow have a major racial skew??

If it were whites getting the preferred admissions the left would be screaming.

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How many have been turned away? Please link a source so that we may see the scope of the problem.

And this source will need to demonstrate that a minority of lesser capability/scholastic history got admitted ahead of this perfect white dude.

You've been around long enough to have seen the data more than once.

Just because it goes in one eye and out the other because you don't like it doesn't make it go away.

 

[laughing dog]

And those other factors somehow have a major racial skew??

If it were whites getting the preferred admissions the left would be screaming.

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And this source will need to demonstrate that a minority of lesser capability/scholastic history got admitted ahead of this perfect white dude.

You've been around long enough to have seen the data more than once.

Just because it goes in one eye and out the other because you don't like it doesn't make it go away.

Do you think you are Jack Horner and this is Mother Goose? Just because you claim to have pulled out a plum does not mean anyone has to take your word for it - provide a link to substantiate your claim.

Of course, none of this has jack to do with the OP at all. Your claim that the daily racism that black people face in many forms face pales in comparison to what whites and Asian face under AA is ludicrous - even if your claims about AA are true.

 

[Deepak]

And those other factors somehow have a major racial skew??

If it were whites getting the preferred admissions the left would be screaming.

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And this source will need to demonstrate that a minority of lesser capability/scholastic history got admitted ahead of this perfect white dude.

You've been around long enough to have seen the data more than once.

Just because it goes in one eye and out the other because you don't like it doesn't make it go away.

Whites do get preferred admissions, legacy admissions and sports admissions heavily favor whites in the Ivy League.

 

[Bomb#20]

Seeing the consequences may help cut down on this kind of overt racist behavior, but I don't think it will change their hearts and minds.

So they try to change the subject, away from the inherent racism, and to the discussion itself. ...

I, for one, am glad this lady lost her job. ... I do wish some would start charging people who call the police for stupid, obviously racist <expletive deleted> like this, just to discourage it a bit. It is good that she lost her job. I don't really care about changing her mind, or the minds of most racists. It's not going to happen anyway, so at least this might get them to go back into the closet where they belong.

You don't think there's any merit in making people aware of racial incidents they might otherwise not know of?

Cockroaches don't like sunlight, and not making mention of these sorts of incidents can lead to the misapprehension that they're not as widespread as they actually are. Do you not see merit in that?

I would be curious to know if these incidents are on the rise, or is reporting of these incidents on the rise? Is there something that makes 'dog bites man' sort of stories from the last 50 years suddenly something the media pays attention to?

Maybe that'll be the positive legacy of Trump's presidency...blatant racism became 'news' again.

At the same time, however, overt racism has also become more socially acceptable amongst certain groups due to the US government's support and encouragement of these types of things.

I realize the police have harassed black people for a long time, but I don't think things like what this woman did were very common before Trump. Most racists used to hold their hatred at bay, but Trump has enabled them to let the hate hang out for everyone to see. It's disgusting.

Of course, none of this has jack to do with the OP at all. Your claim that the daily racism that black people face in many forms face pales in comparison to what whites and Asian face under AA is ludicrous - even if your claims about AA are true.

That makes, let's see, seven of you who have expressly accused Hilary Mueller of racism. Do all seven of you have evidence that Ms. Mueller would not have acted exactly the same way toward a white man she didn't know who was trying to tailgate her into her apartment building? Is there even one of you who has such evidence? Or did every one of you make a perhaps false and definitely damaging claim about her with reckless disregard for the truth?

 

[laughing dog]

You don't think there's any merit in making people aware of racial incidents they might otherwise not know of?

Cockroaches don't like sunlight, and not making mention of these sorts of incidents can lead to the misapprehension that they're not as widespread as they actually are. Do you not see merit in that?

Maybe that'll be the positive legacy of Trump's presidency...blatant racism became 'news' again.

At the same time, however, overt racism has also become more socially acceptable amongst certain groups due to the US government's support and encouragement of these types of things.

I realize the police have harassed black people for a long time, but I don't think things like what this woman did were very common before Trump. Most racists used to hold their hatred at bay, but Trump has enabled them to let the hate hang out for everyone to see. It's disgusting.

Of course, none of this has jack to do with the OP at all. Your claim that the daily racism that black people face in many forms face pales in comparison to what whites and Asian face under AA is ludicrous - even if your claims about AA are true.

That makes, let's see, seven of you who have expressly accused Hilary Mueller of racism. Do all seven of you have evidence that Ms. Mueller would not have acted exactly the same way toward a white man she didn't know who was trying to tailgate her into her apartment building? Is there even one of you who has such evidence? Or did every one of you make a perhaps false and definitely damaging claim about her with reckless disregard for the truth?

In 3 of those quotes, neither the woman nor this incident is cited. Did you make perhaps a false definitely damaging claim about 3 posters with reckless disregard for the truth?

 

[Axulus]

And those other factors somehow have a major racial skew??

If it were whites getting the preferred admissions the left would be screaming.

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And this source will need to demonstrate that a minority of lesser capability/scholastic history got admitted ahead of this perfect white dude.

You've been around long enough to have seen the data more than once.

Just because it goes in one eye and out the other because you don't like it doesn't make it go away.

This one here:

 

[Bomb#20]

In 3 of those quotes, neither the woman nor this incident is cited. Did you make perhaps a false definitely damaging claim about 3 posters with reckless disregard for the truth?

Oops, my bad, didn't cut and paste enough from one of the quotes. Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out.

Which are the other two quotes you think cited neither the woman nor this incident?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And those other factors somehow have a major racial skew??

If it were whites getting the preferred admissions the left would be screaming.

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And this source will need to demonstrate that a minority of lesser capability/scholastic history got admitted ahead of this perfect white dude.

You've been around long enough to have seen the data more than once.

Just because it goes in one eye and out the other because you don't like it doesn't make it go away.

Whites do get preferred admissions, legacy admissions and sports admissions heavily favor whites in the Ivy League.

Once again, note that I said "medical school". No sports there.

While it's a problem with the Ivy League there are always lesser colleges, the harm done there is far less.

 

[laughing dog]

In 3 of those quotes, neither the woman nor this incident is cited. Did you make perhaps a false definitely damaging claim about 3 posters with reckless disregard for the truth?

Oops, my bad, didn't cut and paste enough from one of the quotes. Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out.

Which are the other two quotes you think cited neither the woman nor this incident?

Mine, Keith and Co, and Tom Sawyer's.

 

[Bomb#20]

In 3 of those quotes, neither the woman nor this incident is cited. Did you make perhaps a false definitely damaging claim about 3 posters with reckless disregard for the truth?

Oops, my bad, didn't cut and paste enough from one of the quotes. Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out.

Which are the other two quotes you think cited neither the woman nor this incident?

Mine, Keith and Co, and Tom Sawyer's.

K&C: "these incidents"
TS: "these types of things"
LD: "the OP"

Those all look to me like citing this incident. "These" is the plural of "this"; it mean "this and others". The OP was entirely about this incident -- you can't cite the OP without thereby citing the incident.

 

[laughing dog]

K&C: "these incidents"
TS: "these types of things"
LD: "the OP"

Those all look to me like citing this incident. "These" is the plural of "this"; it mean "this and others".

The plural indicates that in both instances the posters were referring to a general trend. Nothing either one subsequently wrote is specific to this incident - each was an observation in general, that would work without even referring to this specific incident.

The OP was entirely about this incident -- you can't cite the OP without thereby citing the incident.

In my case, I was disputing a ridiculous and derailing claim by LP . The sentence is "Of course, none of this has jack to do with the OP at all." which means I am not talking about the OP - I am referring to a derailing claim of LP's. That should be clear from the 2nd sentence in the quote you clipped.

 

[Bomb#20]

Note that I said "medical school". There are always lesser colleges to go to for those tho are discriminated against, but there aren't lesser medical schools.

That's an extraordinary claim.

Best Medical Schools: Primary Care

Here's what it takes to get into 11 of the best medical schools in the US

 

[Bomb#20]

The plural indicates that in both instances the posters were referring to a general trend. Nothing either one subsequently wrote is specific to this incident - each was an observation in general, that would work without even referring to this specific incident.

Certainly -- they could perfectly well have made their points without indicating that this incident was racist. But they didn't. Instead they used this incident as a type specimen to specify which general trend they were talking about. That necessarily involves claiming that the type specimen is an example of the general trend they're referring to.

The OP was entirely about this incident -- you can't cite the OP without thereby citing the incident.

In my case, I was disputing a ridiculous and derailing claim by LP . The sentence is "Of course, none of this has jack to do with the OP at all." which means I am not talking about the OP - I am referring to a derailing claim of LP's. That should be clear from the 2nd sentence in the quote you clipped.

The notion that LP's post is a derail is ridiculous on its face. Of course he's on topic. The claim you're disputing was:

"But this is a drop in the bucket compared to what white and Asian people have to deal with every day from affirmative action.",​

the post LP was responding to was Jarhyn's:

"More to hilight the kinds of things that African Americans have to endure and deal with every day.",​

and LP's argument for his claim that you're dismissing was:

"What's worse, being temporarily blocked from entering your condo, or permanently blocked from medical school?"​

In that context, for you to say:

"Your claim that the daily racism that black people face in many forms face pales in comparison to what whites and Asian face under AA is ludicrous - even if your claims about AA are true."​

sure as heck looks like you're supporting Jarhyn's view that the OP is an instructive example of what AAs endure, and implying such interactions are (cumulatively) worse racism than being kept out of medical school on account of your race.

But hey, if you insist my analysis does not reflect your thought processes and I'm reading more into your words than you meant by them, and you wish to disavow any indication on your part that what Ms. Mueller did was racist, consider yourself dropped from my list.

 

[laughing dog]

Certainly -- they could perfectly well have made their points without indicating that this incident was racist. But they didn't. Instead they used this incident as a type specimen to specify which general trend they were talking about. That necessarily involves claiming that the type specimen is an example of the general trend they're referring to.

No it does not. It simply requires the reader to understand that this incident is referred to as racist in the OP.

The notion that LP's post is a derail is ridiculous on its face.

the notion that LP’s post is not a derail is ludicrous on its face. The thread is not about AA nor medical school admissions.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Note that I said "medical school". There are always lesser colleges to go to for those tho are discriminated against, but there aren't lesser medical schools.

That's an extraordinary claim.

Best Medical Schools: Primary Care

Here's what it takes to get into 11 of the best medical schools in the US

Of course some medical schools are better than others. What I'm saying is there is a floor below which they do not go. That floor is a lot higher for an Asian than for a black.

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Certainly -- they could perfectly well have made their points without indicating that this incident was racist. But they didn't. Instead they used this incident as a type specimen to specify which general trend they were talking about. That necessarily involves claiming that the type specimen is an example of the general trend they're referring to.

No it does not. It simply requires the reader to understand that this incident is referred to as racist in the OP.

The notion that LP's post is a derail is ridiculous on its face.

the notion that LP’s post is not a derail is ludicrous on its face. The thread is not about AA nor medical school admissions.

A claim was made that it was an example of what blacks face.

I pointed out something which whites an Asians face that is far worse. I think that's on topic.

 

[laughing dog]

A claim was made that it was an example of what blacks face.

I pointed out something which whites an Asians face that is far worse. I think that's on topic.

And you are wrong on both counts.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

You don't think there's any merit in making people aware of racial incidents they might otherwise not know of?

Cockroaches don't like sunlight, and not making mention of these sorts of incidents can lead to the misapprehension that they're not as widespread as they actually are. Do you not see merit in that?

I would be curious to know if these incidents are on the rise, or is reporting of these incidents on the rise? Is there something that makes 'dog bites man' sort of stories from the last 50 years suddenly something the media pays attention to?

Maybe that'll be the positive legacy of Trump's presidency...blatant racism became 'news' again.

At the same time, however, overt racism has also become more socially acceptable amongst certain groups due to the US government's support and encouragement of these types of things.

I realize the police have harassed black people for a long time, but I don't think things like what this woman did were very common before Trump. Most racists used to hold their hatred at bay, but Trump has enabled them to let the hate hang out for everyone to see. It's disgusting.

Of course, none of this has jack to do with the OP at all. Your claim that the daily racism that black people face in many forms face pales in comparison to what whites and Asian face under AA is ludicrous - even if your claims about AA are true.

That makes, let's see, seven of you who have expressly accused Hilary Mueller of racism. Do all seven of you have evidence that Ms. Mueller would not have acted exactly the same way toward a white man she didn't know who was trying to tailgate her into her apartment building?

She followed him to his apartment, saw him put his key fob in, and go inside. Therefore, she knew that she had a neighbor who lived in his apartment whom she did not know. Not a reason to call police, but let's give it a test. Please list all the white people she called the police on.

 

[Ford]

She followed him to his apartment, saw him put his key fob in, and go inside. Therefore, she knew that she had a neighbor who lived in his apartment whom she did not know. Not a reason to call police, but let's give it a test. Please list all the white people she called the police on.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there's no list.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Okay, so will someone please go ahead and call the lady an asshole so the rest can dutifully pile on.

She was an asshole. Set race aside for a moment (if that's even possible) and play out the same scenario. This lady had no right to block that man or anyone from coming into the building. She's not security, not an employee, and refused to get out of the way of someone who was just trying to get home. Then she called the cops on him. That's asshole behavior.


Compare her behavior with his. He was calm and - though clearly frustrated - remained that way through every second of her belligerence.

I thought he was being too nice. But he obviously recognized someone of lesser intelligence and thought why pick on her. Someone else might have said, "Get out of my way you ignorant, racist cunt, or I'll move you myself." The guy showed a lot of class.

 

[Bomb#20]

Please list all the white people she called the police on.

Please list all the white people who tailgated her into the building.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there's no list.