Woman Is Fired After Video Shows Her Blocking a Black Man From His Condo

[RavenSky]

A black man arrived at the entrance to the building where he lives in St. Louis late Friday night only to find himself blocked by a white neighbor who demanded proof he lived there.

“Please move, ma’am,” the man, D’Arreion Toles, says in a video he recorded of the encounter, which shows the woman with her dog on a leash standing in the doorway at the condominium complex, the Elder Shirt Lofts.

“I can,” she responds. “Do you live here?”

“I’ve already answered that question,” Mr. Toles, 24, replies as he continues to try to get in. “Excuse me.”

But the woman, Hilary Brooke Mueller, refused to move as she continued to ask Mr. Toles what unit he lived in and to see his key fob. When he declined to tell her, she remained in his path.

Over the weekend, Ms. Mueller’s employer, Tribeca-STL, which manages real estate elsewhere in the city, said in a statement on its website that it had reviewed the video and fired her. Tribeca does not own the building where Mr. Toles and Ms. Mueller live.

“The Tribeca-STL family is a minority-owned company that consists of employees and residents from many racial backgrounds,” officials with the company, an apartment complex in St. Louis, said. “We are proud of this fact and do not and never will stand for racism or racial profiling at our company.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/us/hilary-brooke-apartment-patty-st-louis.html

 

[poster]

I'm not certain what these anecdotes (gossip) serve to prove. Is this one meant to show that racism or harassment exists? Or that some companies tolerate racism or harassment and others don't?

 

[Mediancat]

The more examples brought to light of this kind of behavior there are, the better, I think. Particularly when their behavior is shown to have consequences. I still believe there are people who can be reached, people who might be shamed into doing the right thing.

Rob

 

[poster]

The more examples brought to light of this kind of behavior there are, the better, I think. Particularly when their behavior is shown to have consequences. I still believe there are people who can be reached, people who might be shamed into doing the right thing.

Rob

Ah! So you're saying the purpose of presenting anecdotes like this one on what is supposedly an intellectual discussion forum is to spread it rather than discuss it? Because, honestly, what's there to discuss other than the merits of posting it?

 

[ZiprHead]

Trump deputized white people.

 

[poster]

I see you've decided to raise the bar a bit?

 

[Jarhyn]

I'm not certain what these anecdotes (gossip) serve to prove. Is this one meant to show that racism or harassment exists? Or that some companies tolerate racism or harassment and others don't?

More to hilight the kinds of things that African Americans have to endure and deal with every day.

 

[poster]

Okay, so will someone please go ahead and call the lady an asshole so the rest can dutifully pile on.

 

[poster]

Here, I'll do it.

What an asshole!

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Here, I'll do it.

What an asshole!

You read my mind.

 

[RavenSky]

The more examples brought to light of this kind of behavior there are, the better, I think. Particularly when their behavior is shown to have consequences. I still believe there are people who can be reached, people who might be shamed into doing the right thing. Rob

Seeing the consequences may help cut down on this kind of overt racist behavior, but I don't think it will change their hearts and minds.

That seems to take something that affects them directly, like this man: https://www.facebook.com/GavinNewsom/videos/racist-man-has-change-of-heart/10154419404163117/

More to hilight the kinds of things that African Americans have to endure and deal with every day.

This. If there is one benefit to seeing all of these anecdotes as they happen, it's to remind us that this isn't a one-off that can be safely ignored. That treating people like this is something is happening with alarming frequency and that needs to be called out every single time.

In the OP case, in my opinion, it was less about her suffering the consequences for her behavior, but rather how strongly worded her former employer's statement was.

 

[poster]

See, the only useful discussion that can come from threads such as this is on the merits of posting them. Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

The more examples brought to light of this kind of behavior there are, the better, I think. Particularly when their behavior is shown to have consequences. I still believe there are people who can be reached, people who might be shamed into doing the right thing.

Rob

Ah! So you're saying the purpose of presenting anecdotes like this one on what is supposedly an intellectual discussion forum is to spread it rather than discuss it? Because, honestly, what's there to discuss other than the merits of posting it?

It's news.

If a thread annoys me, I don't return to it.

 

[poster]

The more examples brought to light of this kind of behavior there are, the better, I think. Particularly when their behavior is shown to have consequences. I still believe there are people who can be reached, people who might be shamed into doing the right thing.

Rob

Ah! So you're saying the purpose of presenting anecdotes like this one on what is supposedly an intellectual discussion forum is to spread it rather than discuss it? Because, honestly, what's there to discuss other than the merits of posting it?

It's news.

If a thread annoys me, I don't return to it.

I'm not annoyed. I asked a relevant question that became a discussion in a thread that lacked one. I'm quite happy about that.

 

[Ford]

Okay, so will someone please go ahead and call the lady an asshole so the rest can dutifully pile on.

She was an asshole. Set race aside for a moment (if that's even possible) and play out the same scenario. This lady had no right to block that man or anyone from coming into the building. She's not security, not an employee, and refused to get out of the way of someone who was just trying to get home. Then she called the cops on him. That's asshole behavior.


Compare her behavior with his. He was calm and - though clearly frustrated - remained that way through every second of her belligerence.



Why was she being an asshole? Hmm...well that sure is a mystery, isn't it?

 

[laughing dog]

It's news.

If a thread annoys me, I don't return to it.

I'm not annoyed. I asked a relevant question that became a discussion in a thread that lacked one. I'm quite happy about that.

Your initial post was the 2nd post in this thread, 12 minutes after the OP post: no real time for a discussion to start had elapsed.

 

[Worldtraveller]

It's news.

If a thread annoys me, I don't return to it.

I'm not annoyed. I asked a relevant question that became a discussion in a thread that lacked one. I'm quite happy about that.

Your initial post was the 2nd post in this thread, 12 minutes after the OP post: no real time for a discussion to start had elapsed.

For decades, black people in the US have been saying there are almost daily instances of racism, from minor things like looks, or parents hustling their children away from the 'scary black man', to outright violence and verbal assault.

White people and those interested in maintaining the status quo, like 'poster' here, claimed that they were exaggerating (if they were being nice, usually they outright called them liars). Now that it's being demonstrated (and we're still probably only seeing the tip of the iceberg), those defenders of the status quo are whining about 'having to watch this' or being confronted with it, even on a message forum where they have the option to ignore it. So they try to change the subject, away from the inherent racism, and to the discussion itself. It's yet another form of gaslighting that sometimes works.

I, for one, am glad this lady lost her job. I can't blame the police for not charging her with anything, it's probably not worth the hassle for them. I do wish some would start charging people who call the police for stupid, obviously racist shit like this, just to discourage it a bit. It is good that she lost her job. I don't really care about changing her mind, or the minds of most racists. It's not going to happen anyway, so at least this might get them to go back into the closet where they belong.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

It's news.

If a thread annoys me, I don't return to it.

I'm not annoyed. I asked a relevant question that became a discussion in a thread that lacked one. I'm quite happy about that.

Your sarcasm belies your protest here.

See, the only useful discussion that can come from threads such as this is on the merits of posting them. Thanks for proving my point.

You don't think there's any merit in making people aware of racial incidents they might otherwise not know of?

Cockroaches don't like sunlight, and not making mention of these sorts of incidents can lead to the misapprehension that they're not as widespread as they actually are. Do you not see merit in that?

 

[Keith&Co.]

You don't think there's any merit in making people aware of racial incidents they might otherwise not know of?

I would be curious to know if these incidents are on the rise, or is reporting of these incidents on the rise? Is there something that makes 'dog bites man' sort of stories from the last 50 years suddenly something the media pays attention to?

Maybe that'll be the positive legacy of Trump's presidency...blatant racism became 'news' again.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

You don't think there's any merit in making people aware of racial incidents they might otherwise not know of?

I would be curious to know if these incidents are on the rise, or is reporting of these incidents on the rise? Is there something that makes 'dog bites man' sort of stories from the last 50 years suddenly something the media pays attention to?

Maybe that'll be the positive legacy of Trump's presidency...blatant racism became 'news' again.

Well, if pretty much every minority is saying that this sort of thing has been happening all of their lives but people just weren't paying attention to it, then you may want to conclude that it's been going on for a while now, but people just weren't paying attention to it before.

It's become more socially acceptable to express outrage over it now, as opposed to just moving past it as being part of the life of being a minority, and others are more willing to listen to it now as opposed to remembering that they were busy with something else in another room if these incidents were ever brought up.

At the same time, however, overt racism has also become more socially acceptable amongst certain groups due to the US government's support and encouragement of these types of things. With both sides being more willing to be open about where they stand on these types of scenarios, they get talked about more often.