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Guess the woman's race! Go on, I bet you'll never guess!

White people can behave like a bunch of savages without consequences. No one murdered her and then said she wasn't following orders.

Conservatives and libertarians don't believe in equal treatment under the law. That's how you know they're lying any time they pretend to care about the rule of law or even justice in general.
 
In that situation the rock is unlikely to be a lethal threat.

Yes, he mentions why this racist excuse is idiotic in the video, but thanks for letting everyone know that you're willing to use bad logic to defend what is morally indefensible. Aren't you of Jewish descent? Don't you feel strange using the same arguments as white supremacists, fascists, neo-Nazis, etc. on these things? Or at this point, are you simply comfortable siding with people who think you should be exterminated for being born into the wrong ethnic group?
 
In that situation the rock is unlikely to be a lethal threat.

How do those boots taste?

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In that situation the rock is unlikely to be a lethal threat.

Yes, he mentions why this racist excuse is idiotic in the video, but thanks for letting everyone know that you're willing to use bad logic to defend what is morally indefensible. Aren't you of Jewish descent? Don't you feel strange using the same arguments as white supremacists, fascists, neo-Nazis, etc. on these things? Or at this point, are you simply comfortable siding with people who think you should be exterminated for being born into the wrong ethnic group?

It's easier and safer to side with power.
 
It never ceases to amaze me that people on this board (a board full of skeptics and freethinkers, supposedly) will make broad generalizations about differences in treatment between blacks and whites by the police based on a handful of cell phone videos. These are anecdotes, people. Do you seriously think there are not incidents where cops treated white people horribly, and were cordial to black people? Do you not realize that people looking to push a particular narrative (like TYT) are not going to show those videos? To come to any conclusions about police bias, you need to rely on statistics, not self selected cell phone videos!
 
It never ceases to amaze me that people on this board (a board full of skeptics and freethinkers, supposedly) will make broad generalizations about differences in treatment between blacks and whites by the police based on a handful of cell phone videos. These are anecdotes, people. Do you seriously think there are not incidents where cops treated white people horribly, and were cordial to black people? Do you not realize that people looking to push a particular narrative (like TYT) are not going to show those videos? To come to any conclusions about police bias, you need to rely on statistics, not self selected cell phone videos!
Which would be great. Except, the police refuse to let anyone have access to (or sometimes even keep) statistics.... So the fact that we now have so many people with cameras (and some police are supposed to always wear them) and we're seeing a heavily slanted 'bias' that might actually be reality.

Can you find statistics from a reliable, neutral source?
 
I clicked because I thought it was a person of color, which would have been a surprising (and feelgood?) story that she was not shot.
 
It never ceases to amaze me that people on this board (a board full of skeptics and freethinkers, supposedly)

You have been here long enough to know better. This stopped being a board full of skeptics and freethinkers years ago.
Did you look at the post above yours? You're the master of irony, I'll give you that.
 
In that situation the rock is unlikely to be a lethal threat.

What about the case of Arrowhead Ernie Holmes?

He was convinced the trucks were after him. He pulled a shotgun from the floor and started shooting at the tires of passing trucks. He stuck his shotgun out the window, already blasted open by his own bullets, and kept shooting. The state police were on his tail now, chasing him at ninety miles an hour. He veered off the main road, blew out a tire, and jumped out of his car, running into a nearby forest. He carried his shotgun with him.

A police helicopter swirled overhead and Holmes, surrounded by state police, began shooting at it, hitting an officer in the ankle. Moments later, surrounded and exhausted, he was finally in cuffs. Said one officer afterward: "We could have killed him a dozen times."

"We could have killed him a dozen times."
 
In that situation the rock is unlikely to be a lethal threat.

What about the case of Arrowhead Ernie Holmes?

He was convinced the trucks were after him. He pulled a shotgun from the floor and started shooting at the tires of passing trucks. He stuck his shotgun out the window, already blasted open by his own bullets, and kept shooting. The state police were on his tail now, chasing him at ninety miles an hour. He veered off the main road, blew out a tire, and jumped out of his car, running into a nearby forest. He carried his shotgun with him.

A police helicopter swirled overhead and Holmes, surrounded by state police, began shooting at it, hitting an officer in the ankle. Moments later, surrounded and exhausted, he was finally in cuffs. Said one officer afterward: "We could have killed him a dozen times."

"We could have killed him a dozen times."
And if it would help, we could link to all the times a completely unarmed black person was shot by police.

Arguing that police don't act worse and are more dangerous towards minorities is pretty much equivalent to climate change denial at this point.
 
It never ceases to amaze me that people on this board (a board full of skeptics and freethinkers, supposedly) will make broad generalizations about differences in treatment between blacks and whites by the police based on a handful of cell phone videos. These are anecdotes, people. Do you seriously think there are not incidents where cops treated white people horribly, and were cordial to black people? Do you not realize that people looking to push a particular narrative (like TYT) are not going to show those videos? To come to any conclusions about police bias, you need to rely on statistics, not self selected cell phone videos!
Which would be great. Except, the police refuse to let anyone have access to (or sometimes even keep) statistics.... So the fact that we now have so many people with cameras (and some police are supposed to always wear them) and we're seeing a heavily slanted 'bias' that might actually be reality.

Can you find statistics from a reliable, neutral source?

So, if you don't have statistics then its OK to make up whatever narrative you want based on random camera footage? What if I started threads here with security camera footage showing black men stealing packages from people's porches, but didn't show, for example, white females stealing packages? And then captioned it, "Guess the race of the person stealing the package? Go on...guess!". Is that fair? Honestly, I have seen quite a bit of package stealing videos showing young black men and young white women (and other demographics for that matter) stealing packages, but after all this time, I have no idea who is the bigger problem in this crime, and I would not make a claim or try to promote a particular narrative.
 
It never ceases to amaze me that people on this board (a board full of skeptics and freethinkers, supposedly) will make broad generalizations about differences in treatment between blacks and whites by the police based on a handful of cell phone videos. These are anecdotes, people. Do you seriously think there are not incidents where cops treated white people horribly, and were cordial to black people? Do you not realize that people looking to push a particular narrative (like TYT) are not going to show those videos? To come to any conclusions about police bias, you need to rely on statistics, not self selected cell phone videos!
Which would be great. Except, the police refuse to let anyone have access to (or sometimes even keep) statistics.... So the fact that we now have so many people with cameras (and some police are supposed to always wear them) and we're seeing a heavily slanted 'bias' that might actually be reality.

Can you find statistics from a reliable, neutral source?

So, if you don't have statistics then its OK to make up whatever narrative you want based on random camera footage? What if I started threads here with security camera footage showing black men stealing packages from people's porches, but didn't show, for example, white females stealing packages? And then captioned it, "Guess the race of the person stealing the package? Go on...guess!". Is that fair? Honestly, I have seen quite a bit of package stealing videos showing young black men and young white women (and other demographics for that matter) stealing packages, but after all this time, I have no idea who is the bigger problem in this crime, and I would not make a claim or try to promote a particular narrative.
You didn't read the thread, did you?

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So, if you don't have statistics then its OK to make up whatever narrative you want based on random camera footage? What if I started threads here with security camera footage showing black men stealing packages from people's porches, but didn't show, for example, white females stealing packages? And then captioned it, "Guess the race of the person stealing the package? Go on...guess!". Is that fair? Honestly, I have seen quite a bit of package stealing videos showing young black men and young white women (and other demographics for that matter) stealing packages, but after all this time, I have no idea who is the bigger problem in this crime, and I would not make a claim or try to promote a particular narrative.
You didn't read the thread, did you?

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So, first you say we don't have statistics from a reliable, neutral source, but then all of a sudden you're satisfied that we know the answers based on the links Angry Floof posted, even though she herself says "We may not have all the statistics...". And are you sure those links are from reliable neutral sources? If so, how do you know?
 
You didn't read the thread, did you?

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So, first you say we don't have statistics from a reliable, neutral source, but then all of a sudden you're satisfied that we know the answers based on the links Angry Floof posted, even though she herself says "We may not have all the statistics...". And are you sure those links are from reliable neutral sources? If so, how do you know?
Your complaint is funny because your skepticism seems even more specific. :D
 
That first link claims that 3x as many black people are killed by police than are white people (be very careful to note that does NOT equate to that you are 3x more likely to be killed by police if you are black). I've heard other stats from other sources that give extremely different numbers than that. I don't know what to believe.

It then claims that 30% of black "victims" and 21% of white "victims" (why are we assuming people killed by police to automatically be victims?) were unarmed.
 
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